Serena

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What's with the recent hate around the game? Did something happen? I thought it's one of the greatest(?)
It was the ending which even I have to agree was dogshite, on top of that we didn't get anymore romance option if you down the pure route, heck it is telling when people prefer route/bad ends over the actual end of the game.

The story was barely there even in the beginning but it kept things going but when Karen (or whatever the girlfriend's name is introduced) it goes downhill, it would go back and forth on the "can she be redeemed or not", and honestly, it got so bad that at some point I wanted to put her down for good. Also, no matter how much of a whore Vibe becomes she is still a lesbian like even if she is addicted to cock she is somehow miraculously a lesbian for Karen again...heck there is a literal tattoo that has the word lesbian but this aspect plays zero part in the game.

I do like the game but seriously the actual two endings of the main story suck, the story felt lackluster because of that, the back street whore route, the Peitho route and heck even the waitress route were better in terms of flow and shite not to mention better in terms of conclusion.

The only downside I have with the streetwhore route is that instead of making it a ending where you see a scene and it ends it should've been an interactive ending kind of like Noxian Night's endings, where Vibe has to fuck people for drugs, would be even better if she is sent to a different city or something to make her get away from her "new" allies.
 

bicobus

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Also, no matter how much of a whore Vibe becomes she is still a lesbian like even if she is addicted to cock she is somehow miraculously a lesbian for Karen again...
She's more of a omnisexual than a lesbian. Omnisexuality makes you attracted to people of all gender, but doesn't make you gender blind. In addition, gender plays a role in how attractive they find their partners.

What the game tells you may not be the truth, as per the unreliable narrator. She calls herself lesbian, but she may not know herself as well as she thought.
 
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JMan9200

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What's with the recent hate around the game? Did something happen? I thought it's one of the greatest(?)
In general, it definitely is when it comes to the variety of scenes, alternate side story pathways, and other things. For example, I've yet to find a game that has ever done a bar storyline even half as well as this one. That whole side plot could've been a standalone spinoff game. They definitely excelled in how they developed certain side plots like that one, the porn one, the gloryhole, and some others. But they also clearly left some things half baked and unfinished, while others felt rushed.

The main storyline as well is not without its flaws as others have said, same with combat, and its very true that the whole pure vs non-pure mechanic, the deviations in the main story endings, and the limited scope of the three endings you could get was lacking. It felt like Jenna had made really good connections with most of the core party, but they weren't explored overly well in the endings or variety in some of the relationships where I felt there should have been. Like Jenna gets real close to the dancer girl for example, and it always felt like there could've been room for her in the "pure" ending too, at least imo.

There was also just not any leeway to having any positive outcomes even with non-pure interactions. It was an all or nothing situation in the "best" ending which kinda takes a way from a lot of the game imo. Not just because you can't see many scenes in that way, but also because straying from the pure path even minimally or in various stages shouldn't have meant some hard coded "choose between two bad endings no matter what." The other characters all had good endings in the best ending despite being "unpure" and a lot of that is supposed to be about not being able to control themselves and going through their own redemptions. It's not entirely their faults either. All in all there was plenty of room for variety in how things could've ended.

Anyway, it's definitely a case where the devs probably wanted to do a lot more than they ended up doing back when they were making this one, but they did still make a lot of content in general. It's a classic for sure, but not without the valid criticisms out there, including these recent critiques that people felt letdown in the story aspect and the later content considering how good the earlier content was.

Having said all that, I do think the devs have learned from their mistakes at least in so much that their new game, Third Crisis: Neon Nights, which is technically a prequel to this one but pretty removed from this one's story so far, is so high in quality right now even in its current early state. It's way beyond where Third Crisis was at the same stage in its development and its clear that they got rid of things that didn't work well in Third Crisis. There's no combat, no pure vs non pure mechanic, every aspect of the the setting is built from scratch down to the furniture in the buildings, there's a tighter core group of characters so far, a seemingly more flexible storyline, and so on. You can see just how much detail they're putting into the new game in their biweekly updates and how much they've improved, so I'm optimistic on that front.

Now all that said, it's going to be a big if as to whether they can pull it off in the end since development takes a long time and we've all seen games fall off midway, but if they do pull it off after learning from past mistakes, I think it'll far surpass Third Crisis and most other games like it on this site for sure and easily become one of the top H games one could play. Guess we'll see. Fingers crossed!
 

Blurpee69

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She's more of a omnisexual than a lesbian. Omnisexuality makes you attracted to people of all gender, but doesn't make you gender blind. In addition, gender plays a role in how attractive they find their partners.

What the game tells you may not be the truth, as per the unreliable narrator. She calls herself lesbian, but she may not know herself as well as she thought.
She pretty clearly states she is a lesbian, has negative remarks against men touching her sexually at multiple points early in the corruption and throughout a pure playthrough, she shows a lot of resistence in the first couple of scenes she has with dicks, the indoctronation by Peitho dramatically increases horniness to the point it breaks down sexual barriers and that is made clear through dialogue by Peitho. We also bare witness to that in the opening scene when they're breaking Karen too.

I think there is more to point towards Vibe being a lesbian getting brainwashed than an unknowing omni- or pan-sexual.
 
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