I'm not denying that later in-game can be possible to have a Thrall's mind like clay in the hands of MC, as you stated and amplifying it i'll tell ya that Thrall's bodies have quimical depositories that helps the MC to sedate a Thrall if is needed to calm her (maybe later can be useful for other kind of drugs). But as now that it can be seen in the present build, it adjust only as a hypnosis because there is needed:
1. Cooperation.
2. Set neuron patterns correctly to make a trigger via session.
3. Use the trigger correctly.
We clearly operate on different definitions of hypnosis as well. Like I said, hypnosis is something that must build up through sensory organs. It's a data stream that builds up the effect by going through sensory pathways. That's why we always have a hypnotic imagery, hypnotic music, audio, monologue, even tactile affect when we deal with hypnosis. What they have in thrallworks however goes beyond it and is qualitatively different because the audial back and forth doesn't in itself contain the hypnotizing effect. It is instead contained in the operation of the recording and neuron activating implant which bypasses sensory organs altogether by directly hijacking the biomechincal basis of higher brain functions. By uttering a trigger you command the implanted computer to activate or suppress a certain neuron pattern. It can be in principle tied to any cue, like virtual push of a button on AR screen or mental command.
Also, we already have content in the game where subjects have been radically reshaped by other instructors because we have access to data on examples of their work's results. So radically changing their mind is more than a possibility, it's a demonstrably achievable goal.
In mind control, you don't need permission of the subject (victim) to do what you want, you drug, hypnotize, beat, private of sleep and food, isolate, trick into a reward system, etc... In the case of the Thrall's like Ty-Lee, they are still the copy of a person's mind and they can refuse if neuron pattern are weak, even when you convince her after effect past there is a bit of doubt in her, which only makes me understand that the technique use is to make a Thrall comfortable while not destroying their persona which is more likely in mind control because at difference with hypnosis, the mind controlled subject can't object, the values, the knowing and all kind of stuff is molded to the desire of the person who is in control, Ty-Lee per example, she accepts her "New Name" not only by the trigger's effect but 'cause of similarities she found between her "Old Name" and the new one, so in a basis (as far as i could understand) she still considers herself as Ty-Lee but in a different place with a nickname.
Permission is not an on/off switch, it has infinitely many degrees of relevance. In Thrallworks you don't need anything remotely approaching what can be recognized as a fair permission. Even with the less invasive route the result is still achieved through a combination of coercion with invasive neuronal hijacking the thrall has no idea is occurring, tapping into the reward system included, and greased with disinformation that boxes them in and limits their agency. It's an incremental process with many steps where each step is limited in how much it can achieve, but it doesn't mean the thrall has meaningful control over their ultimate fate. The instructor can mess up and run into a dead-end but mind control is not defined by impossibility of error by the user. If he maps out the conversation carefully, suppresses suspicion with a well-sampled trigger, and refrains from speeding up the process too much too early, there is no real possibility for the thrall to defy their intent. Meanwhile with the maximally invasive route where they leverage the PCU more, if the instructor does a remotely competent job, you don't need their permission in any meaningful sense at all.
We are at the first phase of a multi-step mind control procedure. Of course it's effect is limited so far and there can and should be some lingering opposition in the thrall. Exactly why the process should only be instant to be defined as mind control?
Look, you are describing your preferred definition of MC where it's very narrowly defined as not requiring any subject input at all and achieves arbitrary mind state instantly or nearly so. I don't deny and acknowledge that it has the right to exist and other people can share the preference. But with respect, you don't have more monopoly than anybody else to set definitions for all. It's an opinion that is no more valid than those of other people that use the term differently and find it convenient in that way.
I hope you can acknowledge the rights for different definitions, for the reason described in my previous post. I and many other people would find your definition unnecessarily and arbitrary restrictive. Abilities referred to as "X control" aren't typically limited to only instant and total instances of control over X. Like with weather control, plenty of examples limited in some way. And guided control that you referred to is way too confusing because it fails to provide any information on control over what is being exercised.
It will be more convincing if a found a book in google with the professional definition of mind control?. I'll example you this situation, imaging that a new game is posted in F95ZONE and have the vaginal sex tag so, fans of the tag download and play but discovers that the initial public release of that game just have a dry hump scene where the penis out rub closely the vagina but there is no penetration. Now seriously, would you consider that vaginal sex?. As you, i've seen too many stories related to the subject (mind control) and read something too, but the time i have in this forum, it seems very important if the game adjust to the definitions, if mods don't put the tag is by consideration of them.
As you said, "It can be gradual, it can be partial, or it can be aggressive and complete", which makes me recall many games with a future tag of pregnancy that still cannot be put because they are still too green for that so, maybe because the Thrall's mind is not clay in machinations of MC could be the reason why mind control is not in the tag right now.
Yes but a professional definition of mind control doesn't exist because it's a fictional phenomenon. Vaginal sex has a far more robust definition because it exists and has a definition that relies on actual professional, i.e. medical and legal, basis. Definitions there are necessary very strict unlike with inconsequential fictional terms, like the definition of a dragon. There is no professional definition of how exactly tall a titan should be to qualify as a titan.
It's not an appropriate comparison. A degree of control is still an instance of control whereas dry humping is not an instance of vaginal sex. Vaginal sex necessarily involves penetration of the vagina and this definition is universally accepted. I see no evidence that the definition of Mind Control as limited to total and immediate control over any mental state in the subject is universally accepted. Indeed I have seen a lot of evidence to the contrary, both specific and more general. Like I said, "___ control" ability doesn't necessarily refer to unlimited control over ____. If I need to consult wind spirits and perform a multi-step ritual to make it rain I can still safely say I exercise weather control. There is no clear reason why when X is "mind" it should be different.
