Beause 3d games are in the market forever, so there is more diversity and you can find the type of content you desire more easily. AI content is a new thing and seems that they are mostly made by the same guys because of the art and the themes. Its not kink shaming, we just want a good looking ai game that the theme isnt about the same thing over and overFrankly speaking, I'm not even sure why most people are so picky when it comes to AI content, and so forgiving when it comes to 3D content. I must have seen the very same "old ugly bastard" model in at least 3-4 different VNs already, but nobody seems to complain about that as much as they do when they see AI content...
Ren'Py Three and One: The Cursed Mansion [v0.141] [Man from icecream van]
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Alright this was short but interesting. Better than expected since the flood of AI art games came in. It's a cool setup, and the art is consistent, will have to wait until it's much longer and there's some consequences of choices to really know how much I vibe it though.
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I see what you mean and I'm 100% with you about the need for variety in AI content... But the point I'm trying to make is exactly that if you look closely (and sometimes it doesn't even take looking "that" closely, for how blatantly evident it is) there's a sheer amount of flipped assets in pretty much every single 3D VN out there. Like I said, I've found the very same 3D character in at least 3 different VNs from three different creators. Yet, they're commonly recognized as "creators" by the community, while those who spend countless hours tweaking/training LORAs are typically put to shame. Pretty unfair, don't you think?
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The audience should care about the final result, not how it was achieved. The ones who care about the process are the competitors. It's great if what you create can't be easily replicated — then you won't have competition in your niche.I see what you mean and I'm 100% with you about the need for variety in AI content... But the point I'm trying to make is exactly that if you look closely (and sometimes it doesn't even take looking "that" closely, for how blatantly evident it is) there's a sheer amount of flipped assets in pretty much every single 3D VN out there. Like I said, I've found the very same 3D character in at least 3 different VNs from three different creators. Yet, they're commonly recognized as "creators" by the community, while those who spend countless hours tweaking/training LORAs are typically put to shame. Pretty unfair, don't you think?
Yes, many people think AI art just appears on its own. But the reality is, getting bad graphics is easy — any model will give you that. Getting decent quality is already ten times harder. You need to know how to work with different models, understand ancient magic like OpenPose and Canny, and use upscalers effectively. And if you want your art to be leagues above the mainstream, the difficulty increases even more — because besides comfy UI wizardry, you'll need custom models, the ability to draw at the same level as the graphics you generate (since mistakes need fixing — custom models still draw six fingers), basic 3D knowledge to add props to scenes (or be able to do it in 2D), and possibly advanced upscalers that can't run on personal hardware since they're proprietary and require payment.
Daz3D is actually a similar situation. The software is free and relatively easy to learn. Models for it are dirt cheap ($15–20 for a character model is nothing — on TurboSquid, decent models start at $300+). And if you can’t afford them, you can always pirate them and buy later when you're rich. So, you get Daz, grab a couple of models, put them in a sex pose, render it, and you're done. Simple? Simple.
But what if we want results that stand out? Then here we go: custom morphs (Blender, ZBrush, and all that), custom textures (Photoshop, Substance Painter, Marmoset), custom clothing (Marvelous), post-processing (Photoshop again), and if we need animations — then something for video (After Effects). After all that, we get graphics on the level of top-tier 3DCG games. And if we want to absolutely crush those top-tier games? Easy — delete Daz and do everything in Blender. The result? Something on the level of Wildeer Studio’s legendary Lara.
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A game with good AI is already showing 10x more effort than one that throws DAZ at you
is there some sex scenes with the 3 girls or just with the bartender?
While playing the last update, I also replayed some of the earliest dialogues and I saw that the weird render in the car for Zoe that was talked about a while ago was remade. It's a cool touch. Btw the update was good (albeit short, but it's not like the last update was long ago so it's totally understandable).
Regarding the renders for the new parts, I'd have just one a little thing I found weird again (or maybe I'm just being annoying lol), it was Zoe again when she smiles, that render:
I think the face has a problem here, a bit creepy.
As opposed to that, she was super hot in her other visuals in that update, especially here
I hope that swimsuit will be a recurring outfit. All 3 of the girls are hot in general, and dressed hot. I hope they are aware and the reason is that they want to show off (and not some porn logic), I really luv perverted girls >_>.
Oh, and I don't think it was mentioned yet but since the beginning of the game you often see the girls from the back, it's a very good idea (and once again they are sexy from that angle too...). I'm even surprised it's not more common in 2d porn games.
The story didn't advance much but I'm looking forward to the continuation.
Regarding the renders for the new parts, I'd have just one a little thing I found weird again (or maybe I'm just being annoying lol), it was Zoe again when she smiles, that render:
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As opposed to that, she was super hot in her other visuals in that update, especially here
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I hope that swimsuit will be a recurring outfit. All 3 of the girls are hot in general, and dressed hot. I hope they are aware and the reason is that they want to show off (and not some porn logic), I really luv perverted girls >_>.
Oh, and I don't think it was mentioned yet but since the beginning of the game you often see the girls from the back, it's a very good idea (and once again they are sexy from that angle too...). I'm even surprised it's not more common in 2d porn games.
The story didn't advance much but I'm looking forward to the continuation.
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Man I was blueballed there wasn't new content, no diss, just itching for moar! So much so that I didn't read changelog carefully and assumed that a continuation of the story would include h-scenes..
I don't support the change in the name. WHile indeed, the loser part seemed to indicate a direction that dev isn't necessarily going, it also doesn't necessarily mean that mc will be a loser throughout.
It does fit with the backstory and how his relationshhip is with everyone involved; the bitch humiliating him, his not taking the thirsty one nor properly developing romance with decent friendly red beauty, even the way it plays out with the barmaid, despite success, lacks the volition of a happy, socially successful fella.
I know because of genre-specific thinking we tend to think of all characters on the same binary of alpha=beta, with plots like harem, ntr, nts, somehow needing to fit that. A common, crude, complaint in coming-of-age vn's is that the mc is dumb or weak or a loser or the like even though the stories are by definition about an inexperienced, unwise, unskilled, etc. person meeting the world and enjoying himself or meeting challegnes. So it is expected to receive extra complaints for forcing a label that some guys have an allergy to. Yet this MC is not in such a phase of life (he's passed it) and his label in his mostly pervious society as a loser seems like a badge of honour rather than an accurate description and I think we do subtly understand this as readers.
Anyway, the MC seems to be a rather wiser person than any character in the story, he's got the right balance of cynicism and kindness, whose healthy ego doesn't get easily offended by the improper or insulting behaviour of airheads, narcissists, idiots, etc. but can very aptly put someone in their place if they annoy him or otherwise chooses to do so. In short, he's like a lot of people who get bullied or treated badly or ripped off or whatever but is neither broken by it nor gets corrupted by it. Honestly, I can't imagine someone born between 1980-2000 being that strong of a character if they weren't a "loser" in school. So the title works as a kind of sarcastic label about how people perceived him.
It might sound odd given there's a lot of fantasy, porn-logic and funny-adventure vibes, but it is accurate to say that I went into this for the nice renders, thinking here's a hot-AI fuckfest and thinking that it's a hot story about a sub-male. What I found is something more interesting with a well rounded MC, that's neither fetish specific nor generically trope-y.
I can live with them if they're not persistent nonetheless.
I don't support the change in the name. WHile indeed, the loser part seemed to indicate a direction that dev isn't necessarily going, it also doesn't necessarily mean that mc will be a loser throughout.
It does fit with the backstory and how his relationshhip is with everyone involved; the bitch humiliating him, his not taking the thirsty one nor properly developing romance with decent friendly red beauty, even the way it plays out with the barmaid, despite success, lacks the volition of a happy, socially successful fella.
I know because of genre-specific thinking we tend to think of all characters on the same binary of alpha=beta, with plots like harem, ntr, nts, somehow needing to fit that. A common, crude, complaint in coming-of-age vn's is that the mc is dumb or weak or a loser or the like even though the stories are by definition about an inexperienced, unwise, unskilled, etc. person meeting the world and enjoying himself or meeting challegnes. So it is expected to receive extra complaints for forcing a label that some guys have an allergy to. Yet this MC is not in such a phase of life (he's passed it) and his label in his mostly pervious society as a loser seems like a badge of honour rather than an accurate description and I think we do subtly understand this as readers.
Anyway, the MC seems to be a rather wiser person than any character in the story, he's got the right balance of cynicism and kindness, whose healthy ego doesn't get easily offended by the improper or insulting behaviour of airheads, narcissists, idiots, etc. but can very aptly put someone in their place if they annoy him or otherwise chooses to do so. In short, he's like a lot of people who get bullied or treated badly or ripped off or whatever but is neither broken by it nor gets corrupted by it. Honestly, I can't imagine someone born between 1980-2000 being that strong of a character if they weren't a "loser" in school. So the title works as a kind of sarcastic label about how people perceived him.
It might sound odd given there's a lot of fantasy, porn-logic and funny-adventure vibes, but it is accurate to say that I went into this for the nice renders, thinking here's a hot-AI fuckfest and thinking that it's a hot story about a sub-male. What I found is something more interesting with a well rounded MC, that's neither fetish specific nor generically trope-y.
Good of you to point out the bad renders
I can live with them if they're not persistent nonetheless.Errr, I don't get it, only one H scene ?
Dude, get rid of these few pointless scenes and focus on the story.
Dude, get rid of these few pointless scenes and focus on the story.
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I just pointed one, I praised the second screen, and in general I find the game very well made visually.Good of you to point out the bad renders
For starters, clicking on crates 100 times. One of the biggest wastes of time I've ever seen. Though honestly it doesn't seem like much of anything has happened in most of the scenes.
Really like this game. The story and the characters are interesting and the dialogue is well done.
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I tried this game a couple of days ago, i liked the idea of mixing two flix series, i hope there won't be any forcing NTR scenes and everything will be optional, while the project looks good!
I saw the update today - i was pleased, but
Old save dont work...
I saw the update today - i was pleased, but
Old save dont work...
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For me. it was just the saves at the end, when I went back to the scene where Zoe came into my room, just before Bianca wanted me to talk to Ian too, I was able to continue from there with no problems.
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Yep. That's the exact same error I got. But when I used a save from before that Zoe scene it opened without the error and I could continue from that spot.
Hopefully, it might work for you too.
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Unfortunately, these things happen and will likely continue for some time, as the code is actively being written, with new variables added or its structure changed. Even if you don’t encounter an error, there’s a chance that saves might not work correctly.
For now, the best advice is to replay the story while holding down Shift, stopping only when making choices. It might not be the most advanced solution, but it works — I’ve tested it!
I believe that once v0.19–v0.2 is complete, this issue will disappear since all the code handling routine actions will be finalized and will no longer break saves.