VN Ren'Py Tifa's Dark Heaven [v0.16 Oblivious] [Sieglinnde]

[Chaoticjustice]

I appreciate that you have this point of view about the behavior of the characters and I hope you liked the game... I'm going to answer you the way I thought about the characters' behaviors
For starters, I've mentioned at other times that I don't plan for Tifa to stop being in a relationship with Cloud... I don't plan for them to stop being together (at least on Tifa's side) since personally that's not the idea of NTR that I like... I can't feel the NTR anymore if the two people are not in a relationship...

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Tifa does love Cloud with all her heart, and Cloud loves Tifa with all his heart as well... I tried to show a lot of this by showing Tifa feeling worried about everything she does and also showing situations where she enjoys with her boyfriend... And sharing together as well, to make it very clear that they love each other and are in a relationship. The thing in this situation is that Tifa simply let herself be influenced a lot... She was satisfied with her sex life with Cloud, but simply from the beginning she felt attracted to Marvin in one way or another... And this added to the influence that Amber started to have, that together with Marvin did what was necessary for Tifa to fall little by little... Well, that's what changed everything because Tifa started to feel a different kind of sex, you know? I'm not saying it's better or worse than the one she had with her boyfriend, it was just different and she started to like it more... None of this would have happened if Tifa from the beginning hadn't had a predisposition for it to happen, clearly... She wanted it to happen and she let it happen, but it is true that a series of events formed that made her fall more and more... But she never stopped loving Cloud, as for example in different situations when she is in the middle of the act with Marvin or Barret, they mention Cloud and she doesn't want to talk about him too much, because what she does makes her feel very guilty even though she doesn't feel she can stop. She is slightly similar to Amber in certain aspects, as they are basically both doing the same thing, being unfaithful... The difference is that Amber is much perverse than Tifa, being that Amber really gets turned on by other big men fucking her behind her husband's back

Really appreciate you taking the time to reply , yeah I do enjoy the game I think it's done well on the cheating/corruption aspect

I guess the thing for me and it's not just your game that does it this way countless other games have the same approach

Now before I start I will say my knowledge on cucking is limited at best haha so if I'm off the mark or anything let me know

When it comes to interest in cucking from cheating I personally find it to be a hard sell truth be told and that it always predominantly comes across as the male partner getting "bullied" into the kink by the female so she can continue her endeavours ( now I know bullied is a strong word to use but normally this route goes like this - male: I don't know babe Im not sure if this is for me I don't know if I can do this , female - babe I know you better than anyone and I can tell this is what you want so just admit it... And now the males a cuck etc , now this is a very brief example but you get the point and I'm sure this does happen in real life and that's how people get into it all be it that it would be a longer journey to do so , but on a game aspect you don't really have that luxury to portray it in length , which in turn normally leaves it coming across as the husbands bullied into it to appease the wife or girlfriend and she gets away with it all and the cheating element never gets discussed

But I do also think the cuck element is just one of those things that it's always going to be hard to get right unless you are an actual cuck yourself as I see it as one of those kinks you'll never truly understand it untill your involved with it and enjoy it

Now back to tifa and cloud , I don't doubt that cloud loves tifa , and I get what your saying about tifas love for cloud and trying to put it across but so far I just can't buy into it , now that could boil down to the fact I have no interest in being cucked myself so when I see it I just don't understand how that can be love if that makes sense - now with that being said I'm not here to shame anyone for what there into at all and if people are into cucking absolutely fair play to them

Had the cuck element of been introduced at the very start and cloud has a conversation with tifa around how he's into it that's absolutely fair I can get that

It's the cheating element to it that I can't buy into at all and like I said I'm sure there are situations where something like this has genuinely happened I guess for me I just couldn't imagine anything outside of that fucking bitch is cheating on me as my mindset/thoughts process and again this comes back to what I had mentioned around that you will never fully understand it unless you are genuinely into that kink

Also just want to clarify I hope this post and my first post don't come across as an attack on the game or you as it's not my intentions it was more I just wanted to put my opinion out there without it trying to come across as a demand to change the game or anything

 

[itfod]

It's been a while since I played this game - partially because it was teasing sex and creampies, without actually acting on that yet, Tifa was only giving blowjobs when I last played. Has that changed yet, by the current update, or is it still just teasing?

 

[Ashira13]

It's been a while since I played this game - partially because it was teasing sex and creampies, without actually acting on that yet, Tifa was only giving blowjobs when I last played. Has that changed yet, by the current update, or is it still just teasing?

download it and play, i promise you that you won't regret it

 

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[Willismo230j]

I really don't care about reviews, I am just happy if you enjoy the game or have a good time with it man... Though of course I am happy if I see a good review... And I am also happy that at least there are people who like my games and that's why I keep developing them

Would breeding be part of the story as well.

 

[BrandonX13]

Are there More barret scenes or just Marvin I'm here for the taboo of tifa x barret so I come back for those scenes it's just hotter with barret he's both know tifa for years and is a close friend of clouds which increases the ntr feeling

 

[hotzenfotz]

I appreciate that you have this point of view about the behavior of the characters and I hope you liked the game... I'm going to answer you the way I thought about the characters' behaviors
For starters, I've mentioned at other times that I don't plan for Tifa to stop being in a relationship with Cloud... I don't plan for them to stop being together (at least on Tifa's side) since personally that's not the idea of NTR that I like... I can't feel the NTR anymore if the two people are not in a relationship...

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Tifa does love Cloud with all her heart, and Cloud loves Tifa with all his heart as well... I tried to show a lot of this by showing Tifa feeling worried about everything she does and also showing situations where she enjoys with her boyfriend... And sharing together as well, to make it very clear that they love each other and are in a relationship. The thing in this situation is that Tifa simply let herself be influenced a lot... She was satisfied with her sex life with Cloud, but simply from the beginning she felt attracted to Marvin in one way or another... And this added to the influence that Amber started to have, that together with Marvin did what was necessary for Tifa to fall little by little... Well, that's what changed everything because Tifa started to feel a different kind of sex, you know? I'm not saying it's better or worse than the one she had with her boyfriend, it was just different and she started to like it more... None of this would have happened if Tifa from the beginning hadn't had a predisposition for it to happen, clearly... She wanted it to happen and she let it happen, but it is true that a series of events formed that made her fall more and more... But she never stopped loving Cloud, as for example in different situations when she is in the middle of the act with Marvin or Barret, they mention Cloud and she doesn't want to talk about him too much, because what she does makes her feel very guilty even though she doesn't feel she can stop. She is slightly similar to Amber in certain aspects, as they are basically both doing the same thing, being unfaithful... The difference is that Amber is much perverse than Tifa, being that Amber really gets turned on by other big men fucking her behind her husband's back

NTR games where the FMC keeps loving the MC the most despite escalating cheating are the absolute BEST and way too rare

 

[Adhdclassic]

Still wanna seen a conflict between Tifa and Amber. Man that would be awesome.

 

[Adhdclassic]

Every time I play Scandalous Affair all I see is what Tifa would look like as a housewife.

 

[Chieflenafan]

Really appreciate you taking the time to reply , yeah I do enjoy the game I think it's done well on the cheating/corruption aspect

I guess the thing for me and it's not just your game that does it this way countless other games have the same approach

Now before I start I will say my knowledge on cucking is limited at best haha so if I'm off the mark or anything let me know

When it comes to interest in cucking from cheating I personally find it to be a hard sell truth be told and that it always predominantly comes across as the male partner getting "bullied" into the kink by the female so she can continue her endeavours ( now I know bullied is a strong word to use but normally this route goes like this - male: I don't know babe Im not sure if this is for me I don't know if I can do this , female - babe I know you better than anyone and I can tell this is what you want so just admit it... And now the males a cuck etc , now this is a very brief example but you get the point and I'm sure this does happen in real life and that's how people get into it all be it that it would be a longer journey to do so , but on a game aspect you don't really have that luxury to portray it in length , which in turn normally leaves it coming across as the husbands bullied into it to appease the wife or girlfriend and she gets away with it all and the cheating element never gets discussed

But I do also think the cuck element is just one of those things that it's always going to be hard to get right unless you are an actual cuck yourself as I see it as one of those kinks you'll never truly understand it untill your involved with it and enjoy it

Now back to tifa and cloud , I don't doubt that cloud loves tifa , and I get what your saying about tifas love for cloud and trying to put it across but so far I just can't buy into it , now that could boil down to the fact I have no interest in being cucked myself so when I see it I just don't understand how that can be love if that makes sense - now with that being said I'm not here to shame anyone for what there into at all and if people are into cucking absolutely fair play to them

Had the cuck element of been introduced at the very start and cloud has a conversation with tifa around how he's into it that's absolutely fair I can get that

It's the cheating element to it that I can't buy into at all and like I said I'm sure there are situations where something like this has genuinely happened I guess for me I just couldn't imagine anything outside of that fucking bitch is cheating on me as my mindset/thoughts process and again this comes back to what I had mentioned around that you will never fully understand it unless you are genuinely into that kink

Also just want to clarify I hope this post and my first post don't come across as an attack on the game or you as it's not my intentions it was more I just wanted to put my opinion out there without it trying to come across as a demand to change the game or anything

I agree with you man. I think it is harder to believe Tifa when she says she still loves Cloud because it doesn't look like she makes any effort to please him /spend time with him / or even be present to help him with his worries.
Cloud is a guy that works all the time, leaves early and comes home late everyday and has a boss who is rough with him. He has a tough job and a tough routine. And it doesn't look like Tifa ever does anything to show appreciation or help him feel better once he is home. No welcome, she always prioritises plans with other people and completly neglects him sexually.

Worse, it only takes Marvin to show up for Tifa to immediately find any way possible to ditch Cloud to go fuck elsewhere.
So yeah i think Tifa lies to herself. She thinks she love Cloud but thats only a residue of her previous authentic love. What she actually loves is having Cloud as a backup option who loves her unconditionnally without requiring any effort to keep. At this point she is just a pure narcissist. I'd argue the man she actually loves is Marvin, plus he keeps saying that he'd like to spend more time with her. Tifa for the first time this update showed she didn't want to share Marvin with Amber anymore. For me thats a sign she's feeling a growing emotional connection with Marvin, and i think he is interested in that too.

As for the other guys, Tifa fucks Francis because he is good to have threesomes while i suspect she does Barret because subconsciously, she likes humiliating Cloud with someone who has power over him and is a close friend of their couple.

That was my interpretation of the current state of the story, you may disagree dear Dev.

That isn't in any case a critic. I actually loved everything about the cuck Route. Cloud not immediately barhing in is the right path for me. The way he got frustrated not having any shots or pictures of Tifa fucking Marvin for several days was super hot for me. Now i'm curious to see him sneak around to see her cheating on him (maybe look through her phone, fake going to work or hide somewhere, can't wait !)
As for Tifa being delusional, i think it adds to the hotness of the NTR. I really hope i am right and that she is developing feelings for Marvin. Maybe in the endgame she coud say to Cloud "lets be a trouple because i love both you and Marvin" while she would only fuck Marvin and put all her efforts in making him happy while completly neglecting Cloud.

Can't wait to see what you have planned next

 

[Chaoticjustice]

I agree with you man. I think it is harder to believe Tifa when she says she still loves Cloud because it doesn't look like she makes any effort to please him /spend time with him / or even be present to help him with his worries.
Cloud is a guy that works all the time, leaves early and comes home late everyday and has a boss who is rough with him. He has a tough job and a tough routine. And it doesn't look like Tifa ever does anything to show appreciation or help him feel better once he is home. No welcome, she always prioritises plans with other people and completly neglects him sexually.

Worse, it only takes Marvin to show up for Tifa to immediately find any way possible to ditch Cloud to go fuck elsewhere.
So yeah i think Tifa lies to herself. She thinks she love Cloud but thats only a residue of her previous authentic love. What she actually loves is having Cloud as a backup option who loves her unconditionnally without requiring any effort to keep. At this point she is just a pure narcissist. I'd argue the man she actually loves is Marvin, plus he keeps saying that he'd like to spend more time with her. Tifa for the first time this update showed she didn't want to share Marvin with Amber anymore. For me thats a sign she's feeling a growing emotional connection with Marvin, and i think he is interested in that too.

As for the other guys, Tifa fucks Francis because he is good to have threesomes while i suspect she does Barret because subconsciously, she likes humiliating Cloud with someone who has power over him and is a close friend of their couple.

That was my interpretation of the current state of the story, you may disagree dear Dev.

That isn't in any case a critic. I actually loved everything about the cuck Route. Cloud not immediately barhing in is the right path for me. The way he got frustrated not having any shots or pictures of Tifa fucking Marvin for several days was super hot for me. Now i'm curious to see him sneak around to see her cheating on him (maybe look through her phone, fake going to work or hide somewhere, can't wait !)
As for Tifa being delusional, i think it adds to the hotness of the NTR. I really hope i am right and that she is developing feelings for Marvin. Maybe in the endgame she coud say to Cloud "lets be a trouple because i love both you and Marvin" while she would only fuck Marvin and put all her efforts in making him happy while completly neglecting Cloud.

Can't wait to see what you have planned next

I was with you right up to the trouple aspect , the trouple could work if it was shared or goes to the more extreme side of cucking and he's into it , but the completely neglecting part of it you lost me on haha , again how can you love someone then completely neglected him like to me that's just not love I would say it could fall two ways - option one and a slightly lighter note ISH is that she's just taking advantage of cloud and doesn't care , option two and more extreme/dark is that it could fall into emotional abuse and tifa enjoys treating cloud this way regardless of what his feelings are and with this it also could pull aspects from Stockholm syndrome/POW/ slave not of his on free will sort of thing

Now I know these are absolute extremes I guess the point I'm making that if she truly loved him there would need to a line in the sand so to speak or else that "love" definitely turns into abuse


Also side note - with cheating into cucking I always find it funny that the female is flat out like nope that doesn't interest me at all .... But how do you know though the male only found out he was into it as he caught you cheating , I know they are wrote that way on purpose but still you get the point

 

[Adhdclassic]

I agree with you man. I think it is harder to believe Tifa when she says she still loves Cloud because it doesn't look like she makes any effort to please him /spend time with him / or even be present to help him with his worries.
Cloud is a guy that works all the time, leaves early and comes home late everyday and has a boss who is rough with him. He has a tough job and a tough routine. And it doesn't look like Tifa ever does anything to show appreciation or help him feel better once he is home. No welcome, she always prioritises plans with other people and completly neglects him sexually.

Worse, it only takes Marvin to show up for Tifa to immediately find any way possible to ditch Cloud to go fuck elsewhere.
So yeah i think Tifa lies to herself. She thinks she love Cloud but thats only a residue of her previous authentic love. What she actually loves is having Cloud as a backup option who loves her unconditionnally without requiring any effort to keep. At this point she is just a pure narcissist. I'd argue the man she actually loves is Marvin, plus he keeps saying that he'd like to spend more time with her. Tifa for the first time this update showed she didn't want to share Marvin with Amber anymore. For me thats a sign she's feeling a growing emotional connection with Marvin, and i think he is interested in that too.

As for the other guys, Tifa fucks Francis because he is good to have threesomes while i suspect she does Barret because subconsciously, she likes humiliating Cloud with someone who has power over him and is a close friend of their couple.

That was my interpretation of the current state of the story, you may disagree dear Dev.

That isn't in any case a critic. I actually loved everything about the cuck Route. Cloud not immediately barhing in is the right path for me. The way he got frustrated not having any shots or pictures of Tifa fucking Marvin for several days was super hot for me. Now i'm curious to see him sneak around to see her cheating on him (maybe look through her phone, fake going to work or hide somewhere, can't wait !)
As for Tifa being delusional, i think it adds to the hotness of the NTR. I really hope i am right and that she is developing feelings for Marvin. Maybe in the endgame she coud say to Cloud "lets be a trouple because i love both you and Marvin" while she would only fuck Marvin and put all her efforts in making him happy while completly neglecting Cloud.

Can't wait to see what you have planned next

I agree with most of what you said, except I don't believe she loves Marvin I think she loves the taboo he brings. Marvin on the other hand is jealous of Cloud because he knows Tifa truly loves him. Hence the spectacle Marvin did in the living room and Tifa rushed Cloud out and stared daggers at Marvin. I said this before Amber is the other end of the blade. Sooner or later Ambers influence on Tifa and Marvin is going to weaken. Tifa is coming into her own, Amber wouldn't surprise me if Cloud becomes her new chess piece. Especially if she finds out Tifa messed with her man. Eye for an Eye.

 

[Chieflenafan]

I was with you right up to the trouple aspect , the trouple could work if it was shared or goes to the more extreme side of cucking and he's into it , but the completely neglecting part of it you lost me on haha , again how can you love someone then completely neglected him like to me that's just not love I would say it could fall two ways - option one and a slightly lighter note ISH is that she's just taking advantage of cloud and doesn't care , option two and more extreme/dark is that it could fall into emotional abuse and tifa enjoys treating cloud this way regardless of what his feelings are and with this it also could pull aspects from Stockholm syndrome/POW/ slave not of his on free will sort of thing

Now I know these are absolute extremes I guess the point I'm making that if she truly loved him there would need to a line in the sand so to speak or else that "love" definitely turns into abuse


Also side note - with cheating into cucking I always find it funny that the female is flat out like nope that doesn't interest me at all .... But how do you know though the male only found out he was into it as he caught you cheating , I know they are wrote that way on purpose but still you get the point

I agree with you, in that trouple Tifa would still be delusional if she keeps thinking she loves Cloud. It would only be a way to cope with the discomfort of having ruined her relationship with a perfectly decent guy.

As for the neglecting completly part you're right. She wouldn't completly neglect him. He'd have to be involved in their sex with at least watching, eating Tifa out and maybe even some penetration. That would just make him look pathetic but he'd need it to not walk away.
Also in some stories the cuck ends up being a bit gay with as well, servicing the bull with blowjobs, rimjobs and cleaning him and the girl with his mouth after they're done fucking. There is no sign whatsover Cloud could go this route for now but i think it would be hot. Imagine Cloud's thoughts when he sucks the cock Tifa chose over him.

 

[Chaoticjustice]

Also in some stories the cuck ends up being a bit gay with as well, servicing the bull with blowjobs, rimjobs and cleaning him and the girl with his mouth after they're done fucking. There is no sign whatsover Cloud could go this route for now but i think it would be hot. Imagine Cloud's thoughts when he sucks the cock Tifa chose over him.

I'm not actually sure if this actually happens in cuck relationships for sure , but on one side I could see it happening if it was tifa asking and he was into the more extreme side of cucking I could seeing him doing it as he wants to please/ make tifa happy and because she's asking it would suggest that it would make her happy

Plot twist though cloud hits tifa with the Uno reverse and sucks those dicks so good that they all leave tifa for cloud haha the good old reverse NTR haha

 

[ProtonGames]

What if Tifa make Cloud hot, but never lets him finish. What if Cloud is very hot and could only finish with the photos and videos that Marvin send him and ended up using them for his own benefit, then being the only stimulus he had for the excitement he gets more and more addictive on the BBC. First disgusting, hate, envy, anger, shame, acceptance, love, submision... Different states. At the same time, he feels guilty for betraying Tifa and believes he owes her a lot.

And he starts buying Tifa pretty dress or even toys, Tifa also asks for sexy underwear to go with the new clothes. And eventually, that underwear ends up appearing in Marvin's videos when he undresses her. But Cloud doesn't suspect and continues to feel guilty, giving Tifa more freedom and whims.

 

[Angel's Sissy Bitch]

v0.11 with a 50 page thread is interesting. Is this ntr heavy or more nts?

 

[Sieglinnde]

v0.11 with a 50 page thread is interesting. Is this ntr heavy or more nts?

ntr heavy, I implemented an optional cuckold route in this update

 

[Angel's Sissy Bitch]

ntr heavy, I implemented an optional cuckold route in this update

Awesome.Thanks

 

[Yukihirou]

Damn, Tifa's model in this is so hot. Too bad it isn't NTS like previous game.

 

[Wakazoko]

It would be really hot, if Tifa get pregnant in the end. Is this planed in upcoming Updates?