RPGM Abandoned To Kill a Fairytale [Demo v1.1] [Itsallyourfault]

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Adding onto this, after like 5 minutes of research, apparently the reason the original author departed was because of a falling out with the community at large. Generally speaking, he wasnt a fan of the Project Moon/Touhou/Black Souls trashy gatekeeping culture and in many ways he is just right about that. The Western/European Black Souls community based on YouTube and Discord is notoriously insufferable so something like this was to be expected out of a game which shared its fanbase.

If anyone wishes to support the original TKAF author their twitter is still up, but they have made it clear that they didnt wish to work on anymore NSFW projects to deter attracting the same psuedo-fantasy writer crowd.

Adding onto that, TKAF Discord community (for the few of us here actively oversimplifying what I'm saying) just generally appears to be a bad place to be. PsuedoHeaven (original TKAF creator) has not been the only project admin to have left the community or withdrawn themselves from the project entirely. Other developers/contributors, most recently '@ Ground', have left or moved on for a variety of reasons all stemming back to the TKAF (and by extension this Western/European sect of Black Souls/Touhou/Project Moon/LiL/whatever shitty indieNSFWfantasy fans), just overall being argumentative and hostile with eachother.

This is a common and reoccuring trope for the fanbase of these games outside of F95 and it isn't really surprising if you think about it. A lot of people online really made being a fan of Black Souls their entire identity and when you overshare in a community like this people will get hurt.

Are these comments saying that fans that come from other communities such as Black Souls/Touhou/Project Moon/LiL, were causing issues for the TKaF developers?
Or were those just examples of unrelated communities that are also unfriendly and bother developers?

If some members of the community pushed away the main developers, then I fear what the remake will look like without those developers. Will the remaining devs turn a blind eye to harassment to keep the game the same, or will they give in to harassment and change what made the demo good in the first place.

 

[PaIIas_]

Are these comments saying that fans that come from other communities such as Black Souls/Touhou/Project Moon/LiL, were causing issues for the TKaF developers?
Or were those just examples of unrelated communities that are also unfriendly and bother developers?

If some members of the community pushed away the main developers, then I fear what the remake will look like without those developers. Will the remaining devs turn a blind eye to harassment to keep the game the same, or will they give in to harassment and change what made the demo good in the first place.

Well all those stuff happened on Discord so people like me who were following the project without joining the discord didn't see anything happen.
It was literally months of no update on the game and then it suddenly got abandoned then they said it was because of conflict among devs and harassment from other communities.

I don't get what kind of online harassment could cause this but personally I think opening a discord server and listening to everybody's opinions seems like a stupid thing to do during game development, as it would only damage the teams morale while they could just collect people who where passionate about the game and have them playtest then listen to only them.

 

[Marie IV]

Are these comments saying that fans that come from other communities such as Black Souls/Touhou/Project Moon/LiL, were causing issues for the TKaF developers?
Or were those just examples of unrelated communities that are also unfriendly and bother developers?

TLDR:
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To make it abundantly clear, the Discord/YouTube/TikTok/etc sects of the Black Souls/Touhou/Project Moon/LiL/etc communities are what caused this game to be abandoned. How? By joining the TKAF Discord community and getting into fights with the lead developer to the point they decided to abandon the project and sever all ties with it altogether.

This is pretty much the most straightforward explanation (albeit tainted with my personal bias) anyone could be looking for in regards to "what happened to TKAF?"
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From my summary posted year ago, a lot of people wanted to seem disingenuous and assume that these "sub-communities of communities" are all homogenous but that obviously cannot be true, and that was not what I was trying to say. The F95 community, for example, played no part in this shitshow, yet all the same suffered the consequences of the plague-like actions taken by people who happen to like the same things we do.

Was the original dev blameless? Probably not, interacting with a Discord community to the point of abandoning your own art obviously insinuates that you did something wrong along the way. But I would certainly put him as the lesser-to-blame aspect of this considering the 'Discord community replacement dev team' has evidently made exactly zero progress since then. So obviously our original departed developer had a 'slight of hand' when it came to the arts that we do not ... and also probably a shorter temper.