RPGM Tower of Trample [v1.18.0.4 + Standalone SC3] [Bo Wei/Koda]

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LeonOne994

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So browsing trough i've found a bunch of post,from Bowei on monday,some kind of new/explenation

First:problem is i can't dump 7f,7f is a such a pain in my ass right now i need to finish it but it occupies so much of my time and people don't treat koda's stuff as real update damn

Second:my plan was let koda makes some rapid stuff like scarlet expansion which would take only ~1month per release to fill the gap and turns out he's an ocd and spend too much time on details that only a few people would enjoy

Third:so my current plan is i'll finish 7f (my part)and give it to koda i guess in early sept so he would work on it like 3-4months
meanwhile in sept i am finally released from 7F jail i will never work on a long-term stuff again and work on some short and fun floor like 3 week worth of work and release something on 1 October or something and halloween shit on 31 Oct something like this so you guys may not see 7F in 2019 i guess

Edit: View attachment 358915 View attachment 358916 and 2 screen from F7 (kaori)
Wait what?
 
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nicknicola

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So browsing trough i've found a bunch of post,from Bowei on monday,some kind of new/explenation

First:problem is i can't dump 7f,7f is a such a pain in my ass right now i need to finish it but it occupies so much of my time and people don't treat koda's stuff as real update damn

Second:my plan was let koda makes some rapid stuff like scarlet expansion which would take only ~1month per release to fill the gap and turns out he's an ocd and spend too much time on details that only a few people would enjoy

Third:so my current plan is i'll finish 7f (my part)and give it to koda i guess in early sept so he would work on it like 3-4months
meanwhile in sept i am finally released from 7F jail i will never work on a long-term stuff again and work on some short and fun floor like 3 week worth of work and release something on 1 October or something and halloween shit on 31 Oct something like this so you guys may not see 7F in 2019 i guess

Edit: View attachment 358915 View attachment 358916 and 2 screen from F7 (kaori)
Early september isn't when he said he was going to release the floor? We have to wait 3 to 4 6 months for Koda to finish it? Oh god, what a pain. I hope he is refering to expand it after release.

Anyway, 7F is taking a fucking ton of time, but every time I see these kind of sneak peek, I think is gonna be a fun floor.
 
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inthef95zone

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So browsing trough i've found a bunch of post,from Bowei on monday,some kind of new/explenation

First:problem is i can't dump 7f,7f is a such a pain in my ass right now i need to finish it but it occupies so much of my time and people don't treat koda's stuff as real update damn

Second:my plan was let koda makes some rapid stuff like scarlet expansion which would take only ~1month per release to fill the gap and turns out he's an ocd and spend too much time on details that only a few people would enjoy

Third:so my current plan is i'll finish 7f (my part)and give it to koda i guess in early sept so he would work on it like 3-4months
meanwhile in sept i am finally released from 7F jail i will never work on a long-term stuff again and work on some short and fun floor like 3 week worth of work and release something on 1 October or something and halloween shit on 31 Oct something like this so you guys may not see 7F in 2019 i guess

Edit: View attachment 358915 View attachment 358916 and 2 screen from F7 (kaori)
real classy trying to paint Koda as the shitstain (even though he is) when Bo is equally as guilty, i mean there's no need to give it to Koda to delay it even more, Bo can just release his part on September as i'm pretty sure even if it's not 100% it's still way more substantial than anything Koda has ever delivered, sure Koda sucks but Bo is no better either, and this lame-ass excuse of "it's not me, it's him" is just justification for why he's milking it this hard
 

Narak8813

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Early september isn't when he said he was going to release the floor? We have to wait 3 to 4 6 months for Koda to finish it? Oh god, what a pain. I hope he is refering to expand it after release.

Anyway, 7F is taking a fucking ton of time, but every time I see these kind of sneak peek, I think is gonna be a fun floor.
To be fair bowei always said that early sept was is "deadline" for his part on f7 then koda part,so no release on sept!
 

inthef95zone

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To be fair bowei always said that early sept was is "deadline" for his part on f7 then koda part,so no release on sept!
he can just release whatever he already worked on by Sept, sure it may not be 100%, but no need to give it to Koda to sit on it for another 6 months, Koda is not bringing anything substantial to the table anyway, that's why it's bullshit, and Bo's part is basically 99% of the update after all
 
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GearlessJoe

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So browsing trough i've found a bunch of post,from Bowei on monday,some kind of new/explenation

First:problem is i can't dump 7f,7f is a such a pain in my ass right now i need to finish it but it occupies so much of my time and people don't treat koda's stuff as real update damn

Second:my plan was let koda makes some rapid stuff like scarlet expansion which would take only ~1month per release to fill the gap and turns out he's an ocd and spend too much time on details that only a few people would enjoy

Third:so my current plan is i'll finish 7f (my part)and give it to koda i guess in early sept so he would work on it like 3-4months
meanwhile in sept i am finally released from 7F jail i will never work on a long-term stuff again and work on some short and fun floor like 3 week worth of work and release something on 1 October or something and halloween shit on 31 Oct something like this so you guys may not see 7F in 2019 i guess

Edit: View attachment 358915 View attachment 358916 and 2 screen from F7 (kaori)
The writing was on the wall, guys. Here at F95 we've talked about how the new systems Koda was implementing were just useless additions that were taking away development time from the stuff people actually cared about. We didn't consider Warriors Guild to be a real update. We predicted that Koda would take his sweet-ass time finishing up 7F whenever Bo was done with his share. We told you there was a very real possibility that 7F wouldn't even come out this year. We said that Bo was going to feel burned out thanks to the scale of 7F. We even told you the only time you were going to see any kind of preview/teaser for 7F was when Bo had some bad news to tell you. And before all of this, we predicted that the mysterious side project would be an effortless rehash of one of Bo's older games.
And best (or worst) of all, we've been telling you for ages that the best way to move forward with ToT was with short and sweet floors and not big undertakings like 6F and 7F. We also didn't buy into Bo and Koda's BS excuse that to them "it didn't feel right" to roll out shorter floors anymore.

But it's even worse than we predicted. Don't forget, if Bo Wei is telling you in advance that 7F may not come out in 2019, it's definitely not coming out in 2019. If Koda is saying it'll take him 3-4 months to finish up floor 7F, it's because it's gonna take him more than that. Time and time again, we've seen that this is how these guys operate.
And I can assure you right now, you can quote me whenever 7F comes out (assuming it even comes out at all, finished or not)...
It's not going to be worth the wait.

I hope they take a considerable hit to their patron count now that the cat's out of the bag, I don't see how people can keep supporting them after they admit to being this incompetent and not having any fruits of their "hard labour" to show us this year, not to mention ToT's continuation has never been more of an uncertainty than it is right now. Time for the real doomposting to begin, I guess, followed by the inevitable abandonment of this thread if the mods are summoned once again...
 
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comoo

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We've been doing nothing else for the past year, so by all means feel free.
Not gonna do i am calm now
i had plans for may i was gonna be patient and replay the all game with spring update then straight up to the floor 7 but they fucked i thought floor is huge thats way this is happening and every quality product takes time also i think the msize games is another level in this genre story just make you move emotionally also there are some twists(sorry but if you just looking to the cg's you are wasting the game) and those games comes one time in two year but they dont have any fucking patreon account so they are free to do it when they wanted to but now tot process is even slower.
i dont believe even the most pesimistic dude among us could imagine this 1 year 1 fucking year without a update and now this bo guy just blaming his partner for implanting unnecessary work what the fuck were you doing for 7 months and you wont even give him the finished floor you just gonna hand over the unfinished shit so that koda can lie about the release date and can take all the blame again.
and about the discord guys i had zero animosity agains them even if they hate this forum or not but blaming us as a pirates is wrong .at the first time i downloaded the game i was planing to support them on patreon but i had some money issue after then those delays pop up and just waited for that not coming update so i just downloaded only one version of the game beacuse there is only one update in this whole fucking year i am really deeply sorry about that.and please continue to praise your perfect master .
 

Narak8813

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How in the world are people still giving them money
As you know i only report info from Koda and Bowei because people from discord check f95 from time to time and i dont want to start again and endless war.
The only Think i can say i've been a patreon for almost 1 year, i've seen a few constructive criticism but nothing special and even now with all the post bowei have made zero,nothing just "Ehm ok".
If discord people are ok with this nothing will ever change.
Too bad they don't listen to f95 community(constructive criticism not shitposting xD)

Edit: I don't count the poor souls on the patreon page because if they don't join discord they are the last to know about the updates, even f95 got info before patreon XD
Just and example,patreons don't even know that F7 will might come in 2020.
 
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Artilaz

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already saying f7 is not coming out this year oof soooo the "spring" cleaning update and that will be all for ToT this year?
also and i cannot stress this enough with how tensions can be on this thread this is not to defend Koda at all but as someone who struggles with certain mental health issues myself i always suspected Koda of beeing somewhat of an OCD perfectionist for some time tbh (to what extent and seriousness i dont know im no mental health expert) but to be in a position where quite some people are expecting you to make your deadlines its probably not the best position to be in as someone who constantly feels the need to postpone things to perfect the tiniest details while skipping out on other things and he probably is almost incapable to dedicate and focus on the things that have to be done first.
 

hvarbo

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Do you have any links to Msize's games in english? Can't find anything.
It's a real shame but none of his games have been translated. You have to make do with using tools like interactive text hooker (ITH) and Translation Aggregator to get a machine translation of his games. It sounds scarier than it is and I believe that his games are great even if you have to suffer the machine translation, but I understand how people who've never done this will be put off by that.

my plan was let koda makes some rapid stuff like scarlet expansion which would take only ~1month per release to fill the gap and turns out he's an ocd and spend too much time on details that only a few people would enjoy
The OCD part is so misleading, someone who has never played his games would think that Koda was a perfectionist. But he might implement things that nobody cares about, but still the quality overall would suck since things would be buggy as hell until people playtested stuff and he released fixes. But such a reasonable explanation from Bo, who goes off designing floors for so many months when they were supposed to release floors monthly?

Still, I hope you enjoyed the update (and its completed form, which will be released tomorrow) as well as the imminent 6F! After 6F, the tentative plan is that Bo and I will reverse positions somewhat. He's probably going to do some small-scale floors that actually take 30-45 days to release while I grind away at a major multi-month project (similar to me doing expansions while he worked on 6F).
Bo that's who. He was supposed to go make short floors as soon as 6f ended and he managed to not even complete a single short floor before he starting designing a monstrous floor that will have taken over a year by the time we see it.

meanwhile in sept i am finally released from 7F jail i will never work on a long-term stuff again
Considering how he announced short floors after 6f and we'll have gone over a year without substantial content I don't know how much that sentence can be trusted. And I don't think it would be good even if he stuck to it. If you have a gigantic floor for bosses like Karen and the 7f girl, if you later on you design Rose's floor and it's a short one because you've burned out, it is going to be such a disappointment. That's the sad part, not only do they make wildly unpopular decisions to satisfy their creative urges, they also do them with the worst possible timing.
 

olorex11

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Wow, I wasn't going to check this thread until the weekend just to hold the rolling eyes + exhaling a little air from my nostrils for another classic Koda apologetic booboo regarding the re-release of an ancient game with an "extra zoom false CG" to justify another week of easy milking but, this is beyond dissapointing. It's insane how much of an asshole you can be to your co-developer just to point fingers at someone and excuse the fuck up you made up yourself, even after your community suggested parting the update to calm the degenerate masses, but you puked excuses "it wouldn't feel right" you said and choose to ignore us. At this point, at the very end of July, Bo Wei do you really think holding whatever you have ready for F7 is worth the wait?, after all the lies and deception you and your co-developer spit for months?. What a shitshow. Guess your true goal was to make the most expensive indie porn game patch ever, it will be really scummy of you to keep milking those poor fellows in patreon after this "new schedule".
 
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Greycrimson

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As you know i only report info from Koda and Bowei because people from discord check f95 from time to time and i dont want to start again and endless war.
Please don't misunderstand, I would be way way over the discord "beef" at this point even if I were to feel anything towards it in the first place. I'm just trying to whine without directly insulting the devs.
If they continue to steadily grow in patrons years without any release it's no harm to me, but I'm still sad the best femdom game around jumped the shark and nothing has come to replace it, yet.
 

Narak8813

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Please don't misunderstand, I would be way way over the discord "beef" at this point even if I were to feel anything towards it in the first place. I'm just trying to whine without directly insulting the devs.
If they continue to steadily grow in patrons years without any release it's no harm to me, but I'm still sad the best femdom game around jumped the shark and nothing has come to replace it, yet.
I couldn't agree more my friend.
 
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badwulf51

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Possible solution: Dump everything you've done with floor 7 right now and get koda to add shit to it over time.

You would have to be a complete fool to give an update this big to this man without knowing fine well he will take atleast a year himself to finish it off. I don't care how buggy it is, how broken the english is or anything like that. Just dump what you have for floor 7 now because the estimates of koda having it complete sometime in october or november are complete fairy land dreams at this point lets be honest. He still needs to finish WG which is almost 2 months over deadline and then spring cleaing which is nearly 5 months over deadline so the thought that he will polish off floor 7 within 4-5 months, ya, it aint happening man.
 
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