Toxic Attraction DonSilver #Cuckold 8muses forum

[Verisimilinude]

Why Dan gets written this way is beyond me.
Had chance to recover..blew it again..
That should get Don 36 more chapters..one chapter a month at least 15 a pop..935 follwers..14,025 a month x36 is ..drum roll 504,900 dollars for 3 years work..Go Don Silver.

My next comments are specifically about this particular story. My analysis is that Dan is written this way because he is submissive by nature and this clashes with how he wants to perceive himself. Hence why sometimes we see him lashing out (i.e. what you see as him "taking charge.")* This has been backed up both in all of the characters inner and outer dialog, his actions and in how he is written.

Submissiveness is not a trait unique to only women. He is written this way for what I think are several reasons; it shows the toxic nature of the story, it illustrates the contrast of Sarah's empowerment and sexual liberation, and it allows conflict avoidance so as to not disrupt the erotic relationship btwn Sarah and Lester, while still allowing conflict and drama btwn Sarah and Dan.

*Like it or not, if Dan was really taking charge, he would have communicated to Sarah that it was no longer fun and that either she stop the behavior or he was leaving. However he's not able to do that because on some level he enjoys the powerlessness of his relationship with Sarah and when he gets frustrated he takes it out on others.
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Your statement intrigues me. Who had a chance to recover and from what?

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There is nothing wrong with someone making money with their skillset, it's how the world works. You can choose to either support DS's writing with your wallet or you can choose not to. I think your numbers are off a bit, they are probably closer to these collected stats:

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But even if the amount was a conservative $300k over three years, take out taxes and operating expenses, you're probably down to $75k per year. Not a bad living for an author, but not obscene either.

 

[Verisimilinude]

But mostly i would like for Lester to get put in a tough spot where's he's freaking out heck make him sweat a little too.

It may not be happening the way you envision it, but you did see it in ch32. That is (imo) the whole point of TLG even being mentioned in this series: a rival for Lester.

 

[Big K2]

It's on his Patreon Page
Undercover Short Story Chapter 1
Married Undercover female at strip joint to gather drug info on bad guys..low level drug baddie as CI
trapped into giving bj of a top level baddie as he spills beans on phone impending deal..CI witness the
bj. She gives info to handler minus her giving bj. Canceled membership before part 2 final,y arrivedNo c.ue where story heading but if TA any indication..could be at least a year before we now

 

[Verisimilinude]

For clarity all I said was this:

It's on his Patreon Page
Undercover Short Story Chapter 1
New
March 24

 

[Verisimilinude]

Does make you wonder though - cuz it sounds awful similar to EW's Undercover Blonde, at least thematically.

 

[john_doe6711]

Thanks to everyone on here that posted the new updates..

 

[Ecash]

Does anyone have the undercover ch2 alpha? Chapter One had some promise, curious where the story went

 

[Big K2]

My next comments are specifically about this particular story. My analysis is that Dan is written this way because he is submissive by nature and this clashes with how he wants to perceive himself. Hence why sometimes we see him lashing out (i.e. what you see as him "taking charge.")* This has been backed up both in all of the characters inner and outer dialog, his actions and in how he is written.

Submissiveness is not a trait unique to only women. He is written this way for what I think are several reasons; it shows the toxic nature of the story, it illustrates the contrast of Sarah's empowerment and sexual liberation, and it allows conflict avoidance so as to not disrupt the erotic relationship btwn Sarah and Lester, while still allowing conflict and drama btwn Sarah and Dan.

*Like it or not, if Dan was really taking charge, he would have communicated to Sarah that it was no longer fun and that either she stop the behavior or he was leaving. However he's not able to do that because on some level he enjoys the powerlessness of his relationship with Sarah and when he gets frustrated he takes it out on others.
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Your statement intrigues me. Who had a chance to recover and from what?

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There is nothing wrong with someone making money with their skillset, it's how the world works. You can choose to either support DS's writing with your wallet or you can choose not to. I think your numbers are off a bit, they are probably closer to these collected stats:

You must be registered to see the links

But even if the amount was a conservative $300k over three years, take out taxes and operating expenses, you're probably down to $75k per year. Not a bad living for an author, but not obscene either.

Thought chapter 31 was poorly written but
Had a little hope 32 may prove me wrong..but Alpha Draft changes again proved me wrong...no biggie..I no longer will
Pay for TA...just is no longer plausible for me. I always hope a turn around.just don't see it

 

[Madisan7@hotmail]

Does anyone have


The Bad Tenant Ch.08
The Bad Tenant Ch. 09

?

 

[Verisimilinude]

Does anyone have


The Bad Tenant Ch.08
The Bad Tenant Ch. 09

?

Welcome. I haven't seen it surface yet.

 

[Verisimilinude]

Thought chapter 31 was poorly written but
Had a little hope 32 may prove me wrong..but Alpha Draft changes again proved me wrong...no biggie..I no longer will
Pay for TA...just is no longer plausible for me. I always hope a turn around. just don't see it

I hear you. As always I'll wait to see how things pan out. But, you do what feels right for you.

 

[erecthion93]

Does make you wonder though - cuz it sounds awful similar to EW's Undercover Blonde, at least thematically.

Yes, it is similar.

 

[john_doe6711]

Off topic for a minute here guys why do people vote in favor of the dicks winning no offense to Leicester great character love it but I just read the comments on chapter 14 the bet on everybody wants the husband to be treated like crap the vast majority I don't know if it's morbid curiosity or what but let me tell you this is strange...any comments...

 

[berylflame]

Off topic for a minute here guys why do people vote in favor of the dicks winning no offense to Leicester great character love it but I just read the comments on chapter 14 the bet on everybody wants the husband to be treated like crap the vast majority I don't know if it's morbid curiosity or what but let me tell you this is strange...any comments...

Well it's a trope that is as old as time. My take is that the husbands are cast into "good guys finish last" roles. While not a universal truth, it's a powerful story element paired with the readers' (us) voyeurism and sadomasochism - as you mentioned, morbid curiosiity.

There's also the human tendency for negative bias. This is the reason why news about tragedy are shown more often than positive ones as it elicits more of a response.

Then there's the fantasy aspect for me. Never was I into this when I was younger. Well into a happy marriage when this genre started having its appeal. The what ifs juxtaposed to ones own life, I suppose. But that's just me. Some people are just jerks and want to see the world burn. Hahahaha

 

[rain.maker]

Neighbor Chronicles Redux Ch. 03 and 04 anyone???

 

[rain.maker]

The Bet Chapter 15 anyone?

 

[Psiber@mauvais]

Off topic for a minute here guys why do people vote in favor of the dicks winning no offense to Leicester great character love it but I just read the comments on chapter 14 the bet on everybody wants the husband to be treated like crap the vast majority I don't know if it's morbid curiosity or what but let me tell you this is strange...any comments...

For me its not that the husband loses, its that the story is dark and had betrayal, that means, yes, that the husband loses and the troll wins but that makes it more exciting to me, when there is a realistic betrayal that builds. Stories that have the husband treated like crap over and over and over are actually repugnant to me. If you are going to write a wife character who hates on her husband 100% of the time and love on every one else, then why did she marry him? Example: Executive Decision. While well written, my problem is that she is falling into the same tropes that the guy's ex-wife did and swore she would never do that to him. She loves his intelligence and kindness and yet she has started looking down on him because of just that. I get it, he is a numbers guy, but she knew that going in and now it is just so easy for slime that she hated to supplant the husband due to his seeing her as a sales dynamo with the ability to see the advertising picture. She is Don Draper in Mad Men, following the man who is her new svengali. Her Husband is Peggy on Mad Men and now Don, who used to love Peggy now sees her with derision. I wish that, in a lot of ways, that Executive Decision would wrap up in chapter 10 with her apologizing and asking the husband for a divorce. They split up, he quits and finds a job somewhere else, the NY Yankees office as a statistician or something else that will see him have mondo success away from her. Then she can be successful and have a great relationship with her boss. At least it wouldn't be that uncomfortable a read ten chapters from now, when the husband gets hit again and again and again.
Betrayal that builds from a plotted story = good
Treating a husband that does the wife nothing but good like trash repeatedly due to an asshole getting involved = bad.
IMHO.

 

[DarkStutzel]

I'm really enjoying Vivian White and her story (Cuckold Consequences) because the characters are more human. She's a great writer, and so far she's followed her stories without changing the script to please third parties or whoever is paying. Check out her stories.

Her kemono link:

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[Verisimilinude]

Off topic for a minute here guys why do people vote in favor of the dicks winning no offense to Leicester great character love it but I just read the comments on chapter 14 the bet on everybody wants the husband to be treated like crap the vast majority I don't know if it's morbid curiosity or what but let me tell you this is strange...any comments...

Your question isn’t off-topic at all. While we often read fiction to escape reality, social norms still shape our way of thinking about characters. I’d wager almost no one here would willingly admit to identifying with a weak-willed character—it clashes with what social norms teach us to value. That’s neither right nor wrong, just context for my answer.

When presented with a powerful jerk versus a spineless wimp, most readers will instinctively root for the jerk. That’s socially engineered conditioning at work. Others might embrace it as a power fantasy, living vicariously through a character who embodies the control they lack in real life. Then there’s a more troubling crowd: those who despise weakness because they recognize it in themselves and hate it. That’s Darwinism twisted by self-loathing and a lack of empathy to boot. And yes, as Berylflame noted, some just crave tragedy—a morbid curiosity for train-wreck TV.

But here’s the catch: humans are complex and messy, that can’t be reduced to a binary equation of good vs. bad, strong vs. weak. We humans are shaped by forces both internal and external, and the best stories reflect that complexity. As a writer, I especially have to guard against this conditioned response, doing my best to ensure characters feel real rather than one-dimensional parodies.

That said, I’m not above being wrong or misguided in my views--after all I'm a flawed human as well.

 

[Verisimilinude]

I'm really enjoying Vivian White and her story (Cuckold Consequences) because the characters are more human. She's a great writer, and so far she's followed her stories without changing the script to please third parties or whoever is paying. Check out her stories.

Her kemono link:

You must be registered to see the links

I agree. I bounced off of CC upon first read, it didn't seem like the type of story I wanted to read, but I've come to appreciate her craft and dedication. Her work with Rabblelaid on Trinity as well as most of her other work are highly recommended.