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[john_doe6711]

I've set this I think from chapter 30 when the parents went to dinner with Lester and Sarah that I would love to see him and the mom together but we'll just have to wait and see..

 

[Verisimilinude]

That is how I imagine it happening. Maybe have Lester initially start corrupting Sarah’s mum without her knowledge and whilst he is not investing as much time into Sarah as he previously was, she starts to get frustrated with him. Eventually she caves and decides to go to Lester where she finds him and her mum together and she can’t help but watch it all unfold.

For myself at least I think this would be a pretty hot scenario but guessing I’m in the minority here lol. I do think your setup would also be really hot though!

I'm not opposed to the this sub plot as it does seem likely that DS plans on this being at minimum a tease for what may happen in the story, but it does further complicate the story as a whole. It got me to thinking about the vast number of subplots riding along side the main one.

Main Plot: Sarah's corruption
SubPlot (SB) 1: Lester's past with Lizzie (possibly pregnant)
SB2: Chronos's impatience with Lester for new material
SB3: Jessie's fatal attraction/obsession with Sarah
SB4: Byron/Archer TLG involvement
SB5: Shadow Corporate Espionage vs TLG (Likely Sentinel)
SB6: Richard the misogynistic CEO
SB7: Sentinel Involvement
SB8: Otis the Pawn
SB9: Dan's Investigation
SB10: TLG Breach by Lester
SB11: Sarah's unplanned parenthood (Fake BC pils)
SB12: FBI Investigation
SB13: Dan/Tricia Tryst
SB14: Renee Corruption
SB15: Dan/Lizzie Investigation
SB16: Lester Media Breach (By TLG/Chronos)
SB17: Sarah/Richard (to save her job) vs Sarah/Lester (to "save" her life, but also fuck with Dan)

I'm sure I may be missing a dangler here or there, but that's a lot of sub plots for one story with only 32 chapters.

 

[Joshy92]

TA is labeled and tagged as NTR, so you know walking into the story what you're getting. If you are reading TA and expecting a different outcome, then honestly, I'm not sure what to tell you.

To your larger question it's very simple really. A large portion of us readers (I'd like to say all of us but that's statistically not accurate) have the ability to separate fiction from reality. Just because we may find the themes or concepts of a story interesting to read about, does not equate to what we would choose to happen in real life. I'm open to being corrected if I'm not understanding your intent, but based on your comments it would seem you are trying to comingle these facts. Positioning it so that if people like to read X it must mean they want/would accept X in real life. I can't speak for everyone, but feel like a lot would agree, that this notion is patently false. I don't read a fantasy novel because I want dragons scorching my city, just as I don't read taboo erotica because I want those taboos to intrude into my bedroom.

I don't read erotica because it's wish fulfillment or because I want to condone some behaviors in real life. I read it to escape from reality. Why? Because it's fiction, it's interesting and most importantly it's safe to explore in one's own mind.

But on amazon he said its a hotwife story which isn't ntr.

 

[Verisimilinude]

But on amazon he said its a hotwife story which isn't ntr.

Actually it's listed as "Toxic Attraction: A Dark Hotwife Fantasy" The Dark implies it's not a normal or average Hotwife story and does earn it's NTR themes.

And it's tagged as NTR on Literotica where I would guess most of us were introduced to the the story.

 

[Joshy92]

Actually it's listed as "Toxic Attraction: A Dark Hotwife Fantasy" The Dark implies it's not a normal or average Hotwife story and does earn it's NTR themes.

And it's tagged as NTR on Literotica where I would guess most of us were introduced to the the story.
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I don't trust that site things are often not tagged correctly. And anyway I'm just annoyed he called it a hotwife story. By definition a hotwife doesn't cheat. He should have called it a cuckold story.

 

[Joshy92]

Anyway my ideal romantic ending would be Dan happily raising the new addition to his family with Sarah. Maybe even holding her hand as Lester breeds her.

 

[Verisimilinude]

I don't trust that site things are often not tagged correctly. And anyway I'm just annoyed he called it a hotwife story. By definition a hotwife doesn't cheat. He should have called it a cuckold story.

Fair point, things can be mislabeled or not tagged correctly (though as an author on Lit its not that easy to tag incorrectly, you have to literally type in the tag you want to add, it's not a menu system to pick from).

However you have to agree that reading the subheads for the story implies it's not a traditional Hotwife story, yes?


I think the issue here is that it's an evolving story. It started out as a trad Hotwife story (with a side of cuckoldry), then it morphed into a lot of different directions. So I get it, you read the story and you like it bc it's the story you thought you were reading and then bam it went a direction you didn't like. I can't blame you for being disappointed (if you are) but I could also argue read it up to the point you like and in your head that's where the story ends. I've said many times here on the thread that I think this story should have ended at Chapter 14 with an epilogue, but I'm invested enough to see how the story ends.

 

[Joshy92]

Fair point, things can be mislabeled or not tagged correctly (though as an author on Lit its not that easy to tag incorrectly, you have to literally type in the tag you want to add, it's not a menu system to pick from).

However you have to agree that reading the subheads for the story implies it's not a traditional Hotwife story, yes?
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I think the issue here is that it's an evolving story. It started out as a trad Hotwife story (with a side of cuckoldry), then it morphed into a lot of different directions. So I get it, you read the story and you like it bc it's the story you thought you were reading and then bam it went a direction you didn't like. I can't blame you for being disappointed (if you are) but I could also argue read it up to the point you like and in your head that's where the story ends. I've said many times here on the thread that I think this story should have ended at Chapter 14 with an epilogue, but I'm invested enough to see how the story ends.

Yeah I get it. I just like romantic netorase stories but they are so hard to find. There isn't even a tag on most sites for it. Still I'm invested in the story and I need to see how this ends even if that takes another fifty chapters lol.

 

[Verisimilinude]

By definition a hotwife doesn't cheat. He should have called it a cuckold story.

I do think you've hit the nail on the head with this comment. Lit-E could solve a host of angst for people if it would 1) sub-divide Loving Wives category or 2) create new categories for the variants of LW. This would allow people to be able to go to the type of story they want to read. But that isn't likely to occur, sadly.

 

[Oresttitos]

I dont think you been reading, Lester is the one that is behind all the bad stuffs for Sarah. He plans to get rid of her kids, he plans to bed her mom, he plans everything out, and you think he will protect her? Guys like Lester, once he is bored with her, he will toss her and her kids like old used condom. DS shows us what Lester is like, his thinking, his planning, and you think he is good for her?

I am very glad that my post has caused such a lively discussion.
I fully support the accusation of Lester as a bad guy, but in everyday life we are faced with manipulations like him and it all depends on our choice.
But why is only Lester bad? By making a projection onto myself and my wife and offering her what Dan offered Sarah, I would get such a blow that for the rest of my life I would forget about the idea of sharing. So is Sarah such a saint? Did she think about the consequences? About children, family, parents?
Did someone force her to do something? A person made a choice and reaps the fruits, and we follow it.

 

[Oresttitos]

The category this story falls into where the husband loose and the bad guy win. I been reading many many stories and watching many many japanese AV to know that this is the style for this type of category. You don't see many husbands win here, this category is all about the old ugly fat dude get the hot wife. But just seeing people thinks that the female character would be better with the bad guy is just not very logical. You know, like Lester been planning all these evils act to Sarah and her husband, get them both fire, make sex video to sell, thinking how to get rid of her kids, planning to get her pregnant....but yet, a lot of readers thinking that she would be best with a guy like that....just mind boggling to me. It is like people seeing a politician lie cheat steal murder and everything bad but still saying I would vote for the dude....or saying yeah, the wife needs to go and be with her physical or mentally abusive husband....yeah, that is good for her. I mean, I just don't understand people I guess. DS spells out how evil and bad Lester is...he hasn't say much about Lester past projects yet...I am sure Lester got many wives pregnant in the past....and we don't see those women with him or him taking responsibility for it......and yet somehow readers still thinking ...yeah, she would be happy with that dude....just boggle the mind to me.

At the expense of my desire Lester + Sarah.
Dan NPC lost his chance, losing control. Can Lester become a family man is a question I was looking for an answer to until chapter 32. In chapter 32 there was a sentence, I could be wrong:
Lester sadly heard Dan playing with the children in the backyard and Sarah noticed it.
Can a person change for the better, easily for the worse and for the better?
Sarah deep down already loves Lester, because how to love Dan and live with him all my life is hard for me to imagine and there is only one life.
She has sunk to the level of a whore and she likes it or can condemn it? From a moral point of view, yes, definitely. But whether we have the right to condemn her behavior is another question. So what's wrong with her living a happy life of a whore with Lester.
Another question is whether Sarah would break off the relationship knowing that all the troubles are from Lester.
These are all fantasies, perhaps, and far-fetched, does this deserve criticism?
So many questions and so few answers. It is the author who knows how to ask questions and make the reader think, in my opinion, who creates masterpieces.

 

[DarkStutzel]

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Sinto-me como a única pessoa aqui que quer ver o Lester e a mãe ficando, rs. Mas provavelmente sou um pouco tendencioso em relação a essa tara.

Concordo com o que alguns outros disseram, de que os personagens secundários foram uma parte mais fraca da história e preferiria que alguns deles nunca tivessem sido incluídos.

Aliás, sou bem novata nesse universo e, até agora, já li "Crônicas de um Vizinho", "As Aventuras de Cassandra" e, em dia, "Atração Tóxica". Se alguém tiver recomendações parecidas, adoraria saber!
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[Big K2]

I'm not opposed to the this sub plot as it does seem likely that DS plans on this being at minimum a tease for what may happen in the story, but it does further complicate the story as a whole. It got me to thinking about the vast number of subplots riding along side the main one.

Main Plot: Sarah's corruption
SubPlot (SB) 1: Lester's past with Lizzie (possibly pregnant)
SB2: Chronos's impatience with Lester for new material
SB3: Jessie's fatal attraction/obsession with Sarah
SB4: Byron/Archer TLG involvement
SB5: Shadow Corporate Espionage vs TLG (Likely Sentinel)
SB6: Richard the misogynistic CEO
SB7: Sentinel Involvement
SB8: Otis the Pawn
SB9: Dan's Investigation
SB10: TLG Breach by Lester
SB11: Sarah's unplanned parenthood (Fake BC pils)
SB12: FBI Investigation
SB13: Dan/Tricia Tryst
SB14: Renee Corruption
SB15: Dan/Lizzie Investigation
SB16: Lester Media Breach (By TLG/Chronos)
SB17: Sarah/Richard (to save her job) vs Sarah/Lester (to "save" her life, but also fuck with Dan)

I'm sure I may be missing a dangler here or there, but that's a lot of sub plots for one story with only 32 chapters.

U know what would be cool...Chronos being...Otis

 

[polpolp]

For ALL the chapter:
*I must be clean with Dan and tell him everything
*I can't be a prostitute for Lester to get money
*I'm messed up, so I can't make any big decisions right now
*We can always get other jobs

Then the story ends with "I'm going to fuck the bastard boss to take my job back, and won't tell Dan".

Seriously, this crap is getting worse and dumber each chapter. Looks like it's made only to please stupid clients with a cock in hand and nothing in their head.

Thats exactly what you think, Don only write for hard cuck sub and he make it longer to earn more money

 

[polpolp]

I agree. I bounced off of CC upon first read, it didn't seem like the type of story I wanted to read, but I've come to appreciate her craft and dedication. Her work with Rabblelaid on Trinity as well as most of her other work are highly recommended.

Just read the last chapter of trinity, it goes on a bad cheating road and there is to much sx scene and no character evolution. Seems like Rabbleraid influence is much more than Vivian, i dont kike Rabbleraid stories, he is not on lvl with Vivian

 

[GGCaesar]

Oh I agree there are twisted individuals in the world, hence why I said it's statistically inaccurate to say all. However to your comment about the things people say on the internet. I attribute a lot of that to the "mob mentality" effect. People say a lot of things on the internet that they don't actually believe with any conviction because that environment is an anonymous bubble.

But this goes to my point of separating fiction from reality. I can read a persons comment and understand when they are discussing the story vs. what they would want in real life.

Example: I can make the statement that "Lester is a wiser choice for Sarah vs Richard." Why? Because it makes no sense based on what's been previously written. Lester has, to this point, conditioned Sarah to accept him, and provided copious examples that he will allow her to enjoy her sexual needs and has the financial resources to "take care" of her. As opposed to her choosing Richard who is an unknown wildcard.

However would I let either of these men near my wife if they were real people--FUCK NO.

Can I disagree with you about this “Lester vs Richard” points?

I mean what about if Sarah doesn’t trust Lester and in her mind he is a little bit more than a “pawn” for sexual “gratification”? Would not be more coherent if she tries to be independent from him? Richard should be seen in this way. Of course she would depend on Richard but he would be her chief in any case.

My thinking is that people supposes Sarah is a passive actor but 32 chapters have demonstrated that she is not passive at all! She wants to keep her independence

 

[john_doe6711]

I'm not opposed to the this sub plot as it does seem likely that DS plans on this being at minimum a tease for what may happen in the story, but it does further complicate the story as a whole. It got me to thinking about the vast number of subplots riding along side the main one.

Main Plot: Sarah's corruption
SubPlot (SB) 1: Lester's past with Lizzie (possibly pregnant)
SB2: Chronos's impatience with Lester for new material
SB3: Jessie's fatal attraction/obsession with Sarah
SB4: Byron/Archer TLG involvement
SB5: Shadow Corporate Espionage vs TLG (Likely Sentinel)
SB6: Richard the misogynistic CEO
SB7: Sentinel Involvement
SB8: Otis the Pawn
SB9: Dan's Investigation
SB10: TLG Breach by Lester
SB11: Sarah's unplanned parenthood (Fake BC pils)
SB12: FBI Investigation
SB13: Dan/Tricia Tryst
SB14: Renee Corruption
SB15: Dan/Lizzie Investigation
SB16: Lester Media Breach (By TLG/Chronos)
SB17: Sarah/Richard (to save her job) vs Sarah/Lester (to "save" her life, but also fuck with Dan)

I'm sure I may be missing a dangler here or there, but that's a lot of sub plots for one story with only 32 chapters.

Nope I think you sumed everything up there..I think you should have been the one to pen TA or at least co-write...lol...IMHO

 

[john_doe6711]

Can I disagree with you about this “Lester vs Richard” points?

I mean what about if Sarah doesn’t trust Lester and in her mind he is a little bit more than a “pawn” for sexual “gratification”? Would not be more coherent if she tries to be independent from him? Richard should be seen in this way. Of course she would depend on Richard but he would be her chief in any case.

My thinking is that people supposes Sarah is a passive actor but 32 chapters have demonstrated that she is not passive at all! She wants to keep her independence

Well she should be awarded an academy award for acting if she has doubts about Lester...cause from take it looks like she's torn between family and sexual abandon..could be wrong...correct me if so..

 

[Verisimilinude]

U know what would be cool...Chronos being...Otis

Ooh I like this game...what if Chronos was actually Ned. lol

 

[GGCaesar]

Well she should be awarded an academy award for acting if she has doubts about Lester...cause from take it looks like she's torn between family and sexual abandon..could be wrong...correct me if so..

Really there are some hints in different chapters that Sarah doesn’t trust Lester completely.

Or with more precision, she doesn’t care about trusting Lester because she thought she was in control.

Now she isn’t anymore…and she goes to Richard instead of leveraging on Lester…

I am not stating that she doesn’t trust Lester, I have given as a matter of discussion that she going to Richard is not so strange from a certain standpoint.