And for the car as well--those motors and electronics generate heat, which means they need cooling.
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It would limit how far you'd be able to go. If it's correct that escape is only a few miles away, this won't be a problem. If not, though...
Probably not for the short distance they're looking to go, especially at slow speeds.
"Looking to" is pretty important; all we have is an assumption on that question. But if it's correct, cooling isn't likely to be a problem. They'd still need to block those air inlets, though, or the fog will destroy whatever it destroys.
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TOXICity 0.12.0 update #2
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I will admit that shifting from juggling the ongoing development of two games simultaneously to going fully focused on one is weird. Like, I don't find myself with every free second packed with stuff to do now. I can start to think of small things I could slip into future builds. As I've said before, I don't ever want to do that again.
TOXICity 0.12.0:
While this new chapter won't delve too deep into it, because girl #4 is still a plot-driving element, there's going to be a shift in the group dynamic going forward. I know some of you are expecting someone to make it so that the MC isn't always taking the brunt of the worst of it, but that doesn't mean he gets off scot-free. It just means that we're gonna apply even more pressure.
14 minutes ago
I will admit that shifting from juggling the ongoing development of two games simultaneously to going fully focused on one is weird. Like, I don't find myself with every free second packed with stuff to do now. I can start to think of small things I could slip into future builds. As I've said before, I don't ever want to do that again.
TOXICity 0.12.0:
While this new chapter won't delve too deep into it, because girl #4 is still a plot-driving element, there's going to be a shift in the group dynamic going forward. I know some of you are expecting someone to make it so that the MC isn't always taking the brunt of the worst of it, but that doesn't mean he gets off scot-free. It just means that we're gonna apply even more pressure.
Glad it looks like they're still sheltering at the house for a bit.
Not a huge fan of throwing more shit for the MC to deal with until he breaks, but that does seem to be the devs specialty.
Not a huge fan of throwing more shit for the MC to deal with until he breaks, but that does seem to be the devs specialty.
Honestly I have really enjoyed how our MC has "manned up" and risen to the challenge here. It will be fun to see if the character can continue to grow and let others help him more though.
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Yeah! This is something I often wonder about when making choices. There has to be a sweet spot between trust and anxiety that fosters this growth. It's very difficult to describe this programmatically, but this game is doing it nicely. Though I think only in the negative (e.g., a panic attack) and in the moment, not as a kind of growth tracking that leads to better outcomes in the long term.
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I'm sure others came to the same conclusion, but for me, rescue/safety being just a few miles away doesn't work.
And for one simple reason. If it was just this one city, and it is relatively easy to protect yourself from the fog, there's absolutely zero reason why the National Guard, Police and rescue services aren't actively getting people out, cleaning the streets from the Burned Ones etc..
Not to mention the whole no radio or TV stations transmitting, seemingly.
And for one simple reason. If it was just this one city, and it is relatively easy to protect yourself from the fog, there's absolutely zero reason why the National Guard, Police and rescue services aren't actively getting people out, cleaning the streets from the Burned Ones etc..
Not to mention the whole no radio or TV stations transmitting, seemingly.
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Exactly... "if".
We don't really know what's up. For all we know, there's a supernatural force field around the city.
One thing I find suspicious is how few people are in town. There could be many people who are holed up in their homes or who managed to flee the city, and many likely died... But it feels as if the town was a ghost town long before the fog happened. The MC often remarks on this as well, and I think this is the dev using clever writing by pointing out the obvious.
...except that they are, at least sometimes, and the snippets we see suggest they're transmitting quite a bit more than we're receiving. Why reception is so poor remains to be seen--we'd have to hand-wave quite a bit to say the fog is degrading cable TV, which I'd think the TV in the gym or in the dorm would have to be*--but that nonetheless seems to be the case. And the transmissions are from sources that know about the fog, and are outside of it. They speak of the affected area, indicating that it's a discrete, known area. That doesn't address the size of that area, but it's known, and they're outside it.
I don't have a firm position about the size of the area. I'm skeptical that getting to the hospital will be the solution they hope it will be, though.
I don't know about "ghost town," but MC clearly remarks near the beginning that people and business have been leaving the town for some time. I agree, though, that the lack of people seems unnatural. We did have at least a couple of days' warning of the fog, though--MC noticed it, though it was obviously weaker, going home the first day. Is this a matter of, "if he'd just turned on the news, he would have known to leave"? Though if there were mass evacuation, you'd think he/Kallie/Laura would have noticed that too.
In terms of death, we don't see that the fog does that--what we see it do, as its terminal effect, is turn people into Burned Ones and Witches. We haven't seen fatalities that we can identify as a direct result of the fog. Of course, people could die at the hands of other people, whether deliberately or accidentally, but we haven't even seen much of that (with one notable and gruesome exception).
*The fog's affect on what ought to be landline communications is probably the most puzzling of its qualities, and one of the bigger reasons I suspect it's supernatural in origin.
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The only burned one we've seen "born" was made by another, not the fog. And we know nothing about creating witches.
So it could be that the fog is just concealment and the transformations are being done by previous victims - Leaving the first victim unexplained until we have some actual data. Because I have a hard time buying that people would stay out in a painfully caustic fog long enough for it to burn off all their clothes and skin.
Fair. The one in the office is highly suggestive of having been turned by the fog (though leaves questions, like "why did he break out the window?" and "why did he take off his clothes?"), but we didn't see that happen. That's the operating belief of our cast at this point, though: exposure to the fog turns people (specifically, men) into BOs.
As to witches, it sure looked like we watched someone turn into a witch in the last update. That's how MC understood it, at least, because that's how he explained it to Kallie and Shelley. I saw the suggestion up-thread that her apparently-human form may have been some sort of disguise, and I wouldn't rule out the possibility, but that isn't what MC thinks he saw (unless he was lying to Kallie and Shelley).
Valid. That seems like a pretty strong incentive to get out of it. Perhaps they couldn't? Got lost? Fog rolled in while they were away from shelter?
I haven't seen or thought of an explanation that covers everything. "Fog turns people" seems logical (I'd even say it seems like the most logical), but your counter-question is valid. Your suggestion makes some sense, but then we have to explain Patient Zero (and the guy in the office).
Now, garage lady seems to know her way around. She has and uses gear that seems able to provide much better, and longer-term, protection from the fog than what our (current) main cast has. She's been able to scope out the area in a decent radius of the garage. Maybe she has a better read on what's going on more broadly, what makes BOs/witches, etc.
Right - you'd think the NG would come in, and they wouldn't have improvised protection, they'd have full NBC suits.
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Yeah, the MC mentioned it several times, like as they were using the car, that they build new houses which stand empty, businesses leaving etc.
Thought, botc76 has a point. It's been weeks, close to a month i think, by all means there should be a large scale evac going on, even if they can't use cars or helis.
Which likely means, it's as you said, some supernatural phenomena which blocks access, or the fog is far more widespread than just the city. Maybe the city has low priority, or is just deep in the affected area.
Or, perhaps, they think nobody's left in the city? But not sure why they'd think that.
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Yet we aren't seeing the typical poverty that usually happens when a (small) city faces economic hardship. With so many businesses closing, many people would be sleeping on the street or at least downgrading to a smaller home in the bad parts of town.
I'm starting to come around to the idea of it being supernatural. There might still be a scientific explanation, but perhaps it doesn't even matter as long as the fog plays by internally consistent rules. It's even possible we'll never find out.
There could be many explanations for why there is no rescue attempt or invasion by the National Guard. From logistics to manpower to priorities. Stopping the fog from spreading might require more manpower than we expect, and it's possible that there isn't enough fog-resistant equipment to warrant a large-scale operation into the city. But in this case, I think it's actually helpful to consider the fog as supernatural, because it's the most entertaining form of "we don't know".