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simple answer to the whole house/car/AC Fog thing...
Fog = Supernatural, some form of intelligence, possibly aware (witches at minimum)
Vampirism - Supernatural, aware and intelligent
therefore, for funsies, apply the same rules.

Cannot get into certain spaces unless invited. A working AC is classed as a invitation, same with open windows.
Fog also selectively corrodes electronics and wires, and disrupts signals.

there we go. sorted.
we discovered this chapter that the fog came out of the ground, so assume that landlines were instantly fried (first thing checked by MC)

so, why not the electric lines? gotta keep a food source/spreading mechanism (humans, no word on animals, yet.) alive as long as possible, but confined (bye bye cars). we also discovered this chapter that the water supply is starting to be tainted.

yes I was just working this off top of my head, but just pointing out that IF they fog has some intelligence behind it, assume there may be some rules (possibly wacky ones) too.
Interesting. I like the idea that an invitation is required to enter, but for me I imagine less sentience and more instinctive biology. I think it likely that until they learn that a specific type of barrier (e.g., glass) can be broken and bypassed it is probably seen as impassable.

Certainly a lot of glass in office buildings and expensive homes is reinforced somehow nowadays, so a few early BO's failing to break fancy glass (tempered, embedded wire mesh, film-coated) may have caused a mistaken impression that all glass is impassable and not worth trying to break - especially since for BO's vision is not their primary sense and they can't see through it.

Witches seem to sense/remember that it is different somehow, and so do the Grendels. If they (W/G) are different/higher levels of complexity in the ecosystem or within a larger single organism connected by the fog (that somehow transmits information between parts), they could still be relying on that mistaken initial assumption...but they will probably learn very soon (likely by accident) that at least some glass is easily broken, and that will immediately put the traveling human group in much more danger because safe places to stop and rest will suddenly become limited to only locations wtih reinforced glass. (to be safe from Witches) and who knows where to avoid Grendels, who could clearly smash through even reinforced glass. Cheap subdivisions where they are now are a likely place for W/G's to figure this out, since cheap subdivisions mostly use cheaper glass...

I also see no issues with power lines being unaffected (yet) by corrosion given that they are underground and heavily shielded with corrosion-resistant casing. The water starting to taste funny could be lack of QC at the source (as speculated by one of the group) OR an indication that the corrosion is starting to break through the thicker metal of water pipes, which are thicker but not shielded in any way. I wouldn't be surprised if a member of our group gets turned because they drink too much contaminated water that the others drink more sparingly because it tastes bad.

I'm not sure where they idea of the corrosion of electronics being "selective" is coming from. Maybe I missed evidence of that but I don't remember anything that seemed inconsistent.

Anyway, I like supernatural stuff, but personally I hope this turns out to be natural because I think that makes for a better (and more horrifying) story personally. (y)
 

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I also see no issues with power lines being unaffected (yet) by corrosion given that they are underground and heavily shielded with corrosion-resistant casing. The water starting to taste funny could be lack of QC at the source OR an indication that the corrosion is starting to break through the thicker metal of water pipes, which are thicker but not shielded in any way. I wouldn't be surprised if a member of our group gets turned because they drink too much contaminated water that the others drink more sparingly.

I'm not sure where they idea of the corrosion of electronics being "selective" is coming from. Maybe I missed evidence of that but I don't remember anything that seemed inconsistent.
I'm basing this off the fact landlines went down near instantly and a fair amount of those have corrosive-resistant materials, also, post... 1970s? 80s? lines were made more durable to handle solar flares too. the fact that somehow, cars electronics get fried rapidly, but power lines are unaffected is just... odd.

so communication and travel was affected first, which is... concerning from a intelligence standpoint, as that implies a forced isolation of the local populace. the electric still working (as seen by washers, freezers, and the fryers at the burger place) also implies intelligence, keep a short term food supply for... its. food?/spreading mechanism?

either way, theorycrafting is all good, but I have Eternum to play now, bu bye for now!
 
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I'm basing this off the fact landlines went down near instantly and a fair amount of those have corrosive-resistant materials, also, post... 1970s? 80s? lines were made more durable to handle solar flares too. the fact that somehow, cars electronics get fried rapidly, but power lines are unaffected is just... odd.
One of my European coworkers was telling me once that if your building had been rebuilt because of the nazis you could probs only get cat3 internet speed (10Mbps) out of the phone wiring there. But if it was older and HADN'T been rebuilt the wires used more metal and you could likely get cat5 speed (100Mbps). :)
 

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One of my European coworkers was telling me once that if your building had been rebuilt because of the nazis you could probs only get cat3 internet speed (10Mbps) out of the phone wiring there. But if it was older and HADN'T been rebuilt the wires used more metal and you could likely get cat5 speed (100Mbps). :)
Europe is FIFTY different countries. Each one of them has different laws about building regulations. Most of all, most countries have local building regulations which heavily differ - and when I say 'local', I mean town council regulations.
Then, you might want to add the fact that many many many buildings are subject to environmental, landscape and heritage restrictions.
Then, you should add antiseismic regulations which heavily differ too.

Anyway, what the hell are you talking about?

Shouldn't you be better talking about the chicks? how about some serious debate over Eve's boobs?
 

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There's also the possibility that not everything is being done by the same source. The communications thing is the main factor that makes me suspect that this might all be part of an experiment of some sort, and that the comms blackout is a deliberate cutting of landlines and signal jamming by the group organizing this, while other factors are a result of the fog. It can still work even if it's not a deliberately planned experiment but a desire to stop the spread of information and panic from the affected area, or even some sabotage from, idk, fog cultists?

One new thing that got mentioned in the last update that's going to become a problem soon is the dropping water quality. Not sure if it's because the water supply is starting to get saturated with whatever's in the fog, or just because the local water treatment has gone offline and that's starting to make itself felt. Either way, the group has been relying on working plumbing until now, and that seems like it won't last much longer.
 

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There's also the possibility that not everything is being done by the same source. The communications thing is the main factor that makes me suspect that this might all be part of an experiment of some sort, and that the comms blackout is a deliberate cutting of landlines and signal jamming by the group organizing this, while other factors are a result of the fog. It can still work even if it's not a deliberately planned experiment but a desire to stop the spread of information and panic from the affected area, or even some sabotage from, idk, fog cultists?

One new thing that got mentioned in the last update that's going to become a problem soon is the dropping water quality. Not sure if it's because the water supply is starting to get saturated with whatever's in the fog, or just because the local water treatment has gone offline and that's starting to make itself felt. Either way, the group has been relying on working plumbing until now, and that seems like it won't last much longer.
Washing water is safe longer than drinking water.
 

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Washing water is safe longer than drinking water.
Not in this case. If the fog toxin is starting to contaminate the water showering would be just as bad as drinking since we know getting it on the skin is enough to cause transformation into a BO.
 
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