VN Ren'Py ToxiCity [v0.13.0] [ILSProductions]

[ImariKurumi]

Give them time.

Yup. Not making Eve an LI should be a crime haha. I mean look at that rack and solid personality.
She's the kinda girl you actually need to survive in an apocalypse.
I hope dev focuses on her character more than the initial duo or trio. Now & Then had 1 or 2 outstanding characters that did not get enough screentime and character development.

Killing off a LI is never, ever, ever at all acceptable in an AVN. Automatic 1 star rating. Or 0 star were it possible.

Don't think dev will outright kill her off. The furthest dev would be willing to go is her returning as a special Witch that still retains her consciousness, something along those lines.

 

[TsubameYui]

Yup. Not making Eve an LI should be a crime haha. I mean look at that rack and solid personality.
She's the kinda girl you actually need to survive in an apocalypse.
I hope dev focuses on her character more than the initial duo or trio. Now & Then had 1 or 2 outstanding characters that did not get enough screentime and character development.



Don't think she'll be killed off. I think the furthest dev would be willing to go is turning her into a special Witch that still retains her consciousness.

Yeah, Eve is probably best girl already. Really looking forward to more of her, and it seems like next update is going to be a very Eve-focused chapter.

I kinda got the same feelings about Kallie as you. I was thinking Laura would be the first to start showing signs of transformation, since she got a very heavy dose of toxin at the start, but then Kallie got a direct blast from the burned one outside the dorms.

I think there's still the possibility of dev killing off Shelley, depending on how the player chooses to treat her. She's super unstable, and if you're not on her friendship or love route, I could see her just wandering off into the fog, never to be seen again.

I'm not really a fan of Shelley, so I've just stuck to her friendship route, since I don't dislike her enough to want her to die, but I don't want a relationship with her. One thing that bugs me, though, is that dev doesn't distinguish her friendship and love routes quite enough. There are several dialogues that check "if s_friend >= x or s_love >= x", that should be "if s_love >= x elif s_friend >= x" with separate dialogues based on which route the player is on. In this update, for example, MC refers to Shelley as being "friends with benefits" if on either her friendship or love routes, but in my playthrough there have been no "benefits" with her, so it's a bit jarring.

 

[Walter Victor]

At the same time Kallie's side mission at the behest of Laura, was also helpful, because it's a quick jaunt outside to get into one of the other houses, to get MC desperately needed clothing (I've added dialog here as well, again if ILS likes it) because he had basically 1 change of clothing. If both sets of clothing are ruined by the fog and he's needed outside, he's fucked.

All well and good, but Kallie and the MC could still have gone clothes shopping without Laura and Shelley going off on their own to talk to Eve. No deception or lies necessary.

 

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[Coder62]

All well and good, but Kallie and the MC could still have gone clothes shopping without Laura and Shelley going off on their own to talk to Eve. No deception or lies necessary.

Sure...they could have, but that's really neither here nor there. They wanted to leave MC out of it for the reasons I gave previously.

 

[Coder62]

Counter point to this the end result is that they caused MC to exhaust himself more physically and mentally so in the end it backfire massively it was a pretty dumb decision on Laura's part in my opinion regardless of the intentions I don't really blame the other two girls though they were just going along Lauras plan plus they are young and naive.

That's not really a counter point, because I never said it was a *good* plan, just that this is what their plan was. I agree with you ultimately, it wasn't a good idea, but I do understand why they did it and why ILS wrote it that way.

 

[Coder62]

what? if they listen to him in the first place they wouldn't have gone out lol, not sure what you are talking about.

MC didn't tell them not to go, he planned to go with them as an escort, but in 2 days time. The idea begin that he'd then wait outside until they were done and then walk them back to the house.

 

[Walter Victor]

MC didn't tell them not to go, he planned to go with them as an escort, but in 2 days time. The idea begin that he'd then wait outside until they were done and then walk them back to the house.

What was he going to do with Kallie while he was accompanying the other two? Bring her with them? Leave her behind, alone?

Neither option seems like a particularly good idea.

It was always a bad idea for him to go with Laura and Shelley and stand outside in the fog. It would have been a worse idea for him to subject Kallie to the same misery.

But would it have been a better idea for them to leave Kallie alone for who knows how long, wondering if they would ever come back or whether she would be left without anyone to aid her?

They would have to have all gone together and have the three girls go inside. I'm sure that would have gone wonderfully with Eve. At least the MC wouldn't have had to wait outside for long, before Eve sent them packing, and quite possibly fleeing shotgun blasts.

 

[lordchurchil]

Laura doing everything to help, never actually succeeding in anything except the exact opposite x) I really am considering for the first time "dropping" a character since *ever* in any game - until Eve comes and just *personifies* me in that exact moment of mockery. Ahhh~...! So satisfactory.

First post/comment ever just to say: @ ILS , your productions are superb! N&T - loved it being something to wait for every month, and nailed it - Interim? Binged it this week and manly tears may have occurred. Binged Toxicity till ep11, saw update to 12 and immediately dove back in: absolutely superb. Absurd, really, to find a level of 'i love it' in all three games. Keep it goin! You've done fantastically!

 

[Coder62]

What was he going to do with Kallie while he was accompanying the other two? Bring her with them? Leave her behind, alone?

Neither option seems like a particularly good idea.

It was always a bad idea for him to go with Laura and Shelley and stand outside in the fog. It would have been a worse idea for him to subject Kallie to the same misery.

But would it have been a better idea for them to leave Kallie alone for who knows how long, wondering if they would ever come back or whether she would be left without anyone to aid her?

They would have to have all gone together and have the three girls go inside. I'm sure that would have gone wonderfully with Eve. At least the MC wouldn't have had to wait outside for long, before Eve sent them packing, and quite possibly fleeing shotgun blasts.

Doesn't sound like you're taking issue with what I wrote so I guess I'll answer your question. I think Kallie would've been alright on her own for 30-60 minutes personally. To expand on that, if I'm in the boots of the MC (in that exact situation) I'd figure A) It's a short period of time. But also B) Nowhere has broken into where they've been staying *yet* so should be ok. Hope that answers it from my personal standpoint : )

 

[Siphon]

Oh, and if burned ones come from men, and witches come from women, what the hell does that thing come from?

NBA Players.

and told them she wanted to be left alone, the point is Lauras whole idea to go alone without telling him was dumb to begin with because not only is she putting herself in danger but the whole group as well and she lied even Eve called her out on all of this.

She does, actually, accomplish her goal in the end. Eve does come around and hang out because she saw them getting chased and saw MC going full postal, which also gave her a lead on her part and your group a potential 'in' with her.

Despite how much of a sore loser she is because it didn't directly work, her actions still lead to the desired outcome.

 

[shanksyou]

He monologues about being smart and aware while this tall and lanky SOB creeps up right behind him.

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I absolutely love trying to pick out these figures amidst the fog. It adds so much to the vibe of the game. I will roll back previous frames just to see if these figures were there before, it's quite fun to do that.

 

[PaxHadrian17]

What was he going to do with Kallie while he was accompanying the other two? Bring her with them? Leave her behind, alone?

Neither option seems like a particularly good idea.

It was always a bad idea for him to go with Laura and Shelley and stand outside in the fog. It would have been a worse idea for him to subject Kallie to the same misery.

But would it have been a better idea for them to leave Kallie alone for who knows how long, wondering if they would ever come back or whether she would be left without anyone to aid her?

They would have to have all gone together and have the three girls go inside. I'm sure that would have gone wonderfully with Eve. At least the MC wouldn't have had to wait outside for long, before Eve sent them packing, and quite possibly fleeing shotgun blasts.

I think a major problem right now is with Laura continuing to try to take control of decisions when she does not like what the MC is proposing.

IMO, she does not like relying on him to take the lead (even though her breakdown showed she cannot be trusted to make good decisions).

She took the person MC trusts most - Kallie - and persuaded a naive Kallie to manipulate a guy still hurting over his divorce from a likely manipulative woman thinking this was 'okay' ... This resulted in the huge sense of betrayal (hell - I know I'd feel betrayed) MC is feeling because of the actions of the two women in the group who have known him the longest. (I think Laura absolutely did not think of the impact Kallie's betrayal of MC would have on him, on Kallie and on the fragile trust dynamic in the group).

Right now, you have a restless Laura left with an emotionally fragile Kallie and 'I'm off my meds' Shelley while the MC goes for a long dangerous 'walk' with newest 'ally' Eve to try to get a part that may or may not allow her to fix the car for hopeful travel to a new location.

What could go wrong...

Cheers!!

 

[Herpderp52]

This is a game with broken people doing their best in an environment that is constantly wearing them all down at varying rates. So far, I enjoy the bits of chaos because imo it helps not feel like a linear game. ILS does a great job at keeping people close, but having internal conflicts that are worked out over time rather than just having them kiss and make up one time.

 

[Skep-tiker]

I think a major problem right now is with Laura continuing to try to take control of decisions when she does not like what the MC is proposing.

Am I am the only one who already sees the conflict between Laura and Eve? Eve will absolutly smoke her if she dares to pull uo that shit with her.

 

[Anteron]

Maybe the big thing is a Lovecraftian horror that caused it...

 

[Bingoogus]

She took the person MC trusts most - Kallie - and persuaded a naive Kallie to manipulate a guy still hurting over his divorce from a likely manipulative woman thinking this was 'okay'

Thank you! This is the part that really pissed me off and has cemented my distaste for Laura... she's always fucking things up, but the fact she manipulated Kallie like that... she doesn't even care, she didn't even think how getting her to do that might affect their relationship or each of them individually... she just did it, cause it was an effective way to deceive John... i'm just... i'm so sick of Laura fucking things up again and again and again and again and a-fucking-gain... In a real survival situation, someone like her would absolutely get people killed and then give you all kinds of excuses about how they were trying to help or they didn't know, or it's not their fault because X, Y, Z... now she's gone and thrust a blade of betrayal into John and Kallie's bond of trust... fucking cunt.

 

[mpekas]

The AC filling a house with fog is pretty implausible since it doesn't exchange air between the inside and the outside unit. Maybe in more complex systems usually installed on bigger buildings, there could be ventilation but that's pretty rare in smaller installations where ventilation is typically achieved by opening windows.

 

[e6mill]

The AC filling a house with fog is pretty implausible since it doesn't exchange air between the inside and the outside unit. Maybe in more complex systems usually installed on bigger buildings, there could be ventilation but that's pretty rare in smaller installations where ventilation is typically achieved by opening windows.

Makes more sense than assuming houses and office buildings are airtight to keep it out...

 

[Klab040855]

Did the dev say anything about the topic?