VN Ren'Py ToxiCity [v0.13.0] [ILSProductions]

[TheOriginalSchizo]

I don't know where all the hate for Laura is coming in. The MC is not the leader, he has been the leader by default. No one said "you are in absolute control, and we will do what ever you say, oh master." ... If the later were the case, then yes, I can see the hate for Laura doing her thing. I can see the frustration in being lied to as well. Also, we have zero clue as to if/when Eve joins the crew, if she will play nice with the group dynamics. She might be even worse than Laura. We have no idea if she is reliable. All we know, she knows how to survive a survival situation. She has skills. We don't know how she is going to fit into this group of misfits.

" I don't know where all the hate for Laura is coming in. " Simple, the hate for Laura stems from her decisions being both irrational and stupid.

 

[Walter Victor]

" I don't know where all the hate for Laura is coming in. " Simple, the hate for Laura stems from her decisions being both irrational and stupid.

Isn't that exactly what posters here have been saying about the MC?

Which people are we allowed to not hate.

 

[Walter Victor]

Personally, I absolutely refuse to hate any of the five main participants in this game.

 

[danb35]

The MC is not the leader

Of course, both the situation and the group are entirely ad hoc. There's no rank structure, no chain of command, no other formal method of identifying a leader. For narrative reasons, MC pretty much has to be the leader for at least most of the time, but that doesn't mean all the members of the group have to accept that without question.

MC's made some dumb decisions too (though admittedly some of those were prompted by Laura's dumb decisions). But specifically, he's been undereating, Kallie called him on it, and his response was to try better to hide it from her. Again to put a finer point on it: his response to her concern was to try to deceive her. I don't like "let's go behind his back" (and I'm speaking generally, as I haven't yet played this update), but I can see at least some justification for it given his past behavior.

 

[Walter Victor]

Of course, both the situation and the group are entirely ad hoc. There's no rank structure, no chain of command, no other formal method of identifying a leader. For narrative reasons, MC pretty much has to be the leader for at least most of the time, but that doesn't mean all the members of the group have to accept that without question.

MC's made some dumb decisions too (though admittedly some of those were prompted by Laura's dumb decisions). But specifically, he's been undereating, Kallie called him on it, and his response was to try better to hide it from her. I don't like "let's go behind his back" (and I'm speaking generally, as I haven't yet played this update), but I can see at least some justification for it given his past behavior.

Hurry up and play this release. Ya gotta keep up, man!

 

[Raziel_8]

I really don't know how are they going to fix the group dynamics because at this point I actually think they would be safer if they lock Laura inside a room because she has endangered the group with her crazy ideas several times already, and it's not looking like she's learned the lesson, I've got the feeling this is going to end with MC being temporarily out of commission and the rest having to wise up.

Yeah, Laura fucked up, again and managed to undermine any trust for the girls, she herself can't be trusted at all.
And yes, Laura has clearly not learned anything...frankly, at this point i'd like the option to make it clear to her that she is a liability, any more of that and she can search for a new group.

I genuinely hope Eve kneecaps Laura or punches her if she tries anything again.

 

[danb35]

Hurry up and play this release.

I think I'll be able to get to it tomorrow. Though I'm already disappointed in Laura, so that bit isn't much of a draw. At least it sounds like better grounds for drama than her worrying about where MC's putting his dick.

 

[ImariKurumi]

Right now, you have a restless Laura left with an emotionally fragile Kallie and 'I'm off my meds' Shelley while the MC goes for a long dangerous 'walk' with newest 'ally' Eve to try to get a part that may or may not allow her to fix the car for hopeful travel to a new location.

What could go wrong...

Cheers!!

I hope something goes wrong and we get to see it. As long as it's good drama.
Perhaps dev will split up the team for the next few arcs like he did in Now & Then, just make sure we get to see the other groups perspective too.

The AC filling a house with fog is pretty implausible since it doesn't exchange air between the inside and the outside unit. Maybe in more complex systems usually installed on bigger buildings, there could be ventilation but that's pretty rare in smaller installations where ventilation is typically achieved by opening windows.

Theoretically the AC will break down quick, no matter if it's a commercial or industrial unit. Fog messes with electronic and possibly mechanical systems. AC outdoor unit(compressor & condenser etc) won't survive.

 

[Siphon]

Either it follows them on this trip, or I think it's more probable that it just stays in the housing area and may try to visit Laura and the others.

For whatever reason they don't seem to have cottoned on that the creatures sense via fog and/or scent. That's why they get ignored when they are driving the car or inside a building.

So I don't see it going to the house where they are out of whatever method they apparently used to sense things.

 

[Meiri]

I don't know where all the hate for Laura is coming in. The MC is not the leader, he has been the leader by default. No one said "you are in absolute control, and we will do what ever you say, oh master." ... If the later were the case, then yes, I can see the hate for Laura doing her thing. I can see the frustration in being lied to as well. Also, we have zero clue as to if/when Eve joins the crew, if she will play nice with the group dynamics. She might be even worse than Laura. We have no idea if she is reliable. All we know, she knows how to survive a survival situation. She has skills. We don't know how she is going to fit into this group of misfits.

I don't really hate anyone, but in Laura's case, I think she's at a point where either they find a way to make her see reason or they will all suffer the consequences, it's been several times they barely escaped danger after she took the initiative.

I don't know how Eve will work in a group, judging from what she explained about her past I have the feeling she's not someone that's just gonna follow orders, she seems to have good ideas but honestly someone that has survived alone I think it's almost a month now? They probably should be the ones following her orders.

 

[Walter Victor]

I don't know how Eve will work in a group, judging from what she explained about her past I have the feeling she's not someone that's just gonna follow orders, she seems to have good ideas but honestly someone that has survived alone I think it's almost a month now? They probably should be the ones following her orders.

That's an interesting point of view that I've seen several others put forward.

But the MC is the Main Character by definition. He is the one that we, as players, make choices for. How would that work exactly? I can't think of a single popular game on F95 where the MC follows the dictates of another character in doing whatever he is supposed to do. Certainly not in any game by this developer.

For instance: the group is headed for the hospital as a point of escape. Do you think that they will now go somewhere else because Eve wants to go in a different direction?

So, Eve will probably drive the car (assuming they find the part and it works), since it's her car, with the MC in the front seat next to her, but we players will be making decisions for the MC, not for Eve.

Hopefully, Eve will provide a dependable presence that will allow the MC at least a little time to relax physically, mentally and emotionally. Let her check the perimeter a few nights so that the MC can get some sleep.

 

[Meiri]

That's an interesting point of view that I've seen several others put forward.

But the MC is the Main Character by definition. He is the one that we, as players, make choices for. How would that work exactly? I can't think of a single popular game on F95 where the MC follows the dictates of another character in doing whatever he is supposed to do. Certainly not in any game by this developer.

For instance: the group is headed for the hospital as a point of escape. Do you think that they will now go somewhere else because Eve wants to go in a different direction?

So, Eve will probably drive the car (assuming they find the part and it works), since it's her car, with the MC in the front seat next to her, but we players will be making decisions for the MC, not for Eve.

Hopefully, Eve will provide a dependable presence that will allow the MC at least a little time to relax physically, mentally and emotionally. Let her check the perimeter a few nights so that the MC can get some sleep.

In the story that's being told we are the main character and clearly the leader of the group, so while there may be some conflict with Eve in the beginning ultimately she's going to just follow us, I imagine this field trip with her will be the beginning of our relationship, I do think with what little we've seen from Eve she would be the most qualified to lead the group but that's a different story

That being said I think she'll eventually become her second in command, taking Laura's role, but I don't see Laura just taking a step back and just following orders either, because if there's someone that could directly conflict with Eve it is actually Laura not the MC in my opinion, but that's a conflict for future chapters.

 

[danb35]

the group is headed for the hospital as a point of escape. Do you think that they will now go somewhere else because Eve wants to go in a different direction?

Perhaps they can be convinced? The only one with any real attachment to the hospital is Kallie, and it's at best conflicted. So if Eve has a good reason why they should go somewhere else, maybe?

Eve will probably drive the car (assuming they find the part and it works), since it's her car, with the MC in the front seat next to her, but we players will be making decisions for the MC, not for Eve.

Just like happened leaving the office building in the SUV, though obviously not for the same reasons.

 

[danb35]

For the sake of curiosity, I'll pay attention to how long it takes me to go through 0.12.

Turns out I somehow didn't have a save at the end of 0.11--my last was late in 0.10. So back through 0.11 I went--right at an hour. No skips, but probably going a little faster than if it were new-to-me content. So, yeah, my "15-30 minutes" was an exaggeration.

And as a result of that, I didn't make it through 0.12 today, though I did get started. More thoughts on that later.

 

[mordred93]

Turns out I somehow didn't have a save at the end of 0.11--my last was late in 0.10. So back through 0.11 I went--right at an hour. No skips, but probably going a little faster than if it were new-to-me content. So, yeah, my "15-30 minutes" was an exaggeration.

And as a result of that, I didn't make it through 0.12 today, though I did get started. More thoughts on that later.

If you skip, it could have gone faster to get through 11. Also, if you finished a previous run of 11 the last time you played the game, you could have gone to the auto-save page, and it might have been pretty close to the end of 11. Just a thought for next time.

 

[danb35]

auto-save page

I should have thought of that. I did think of skipping, but going back through 0.11 content wasn't exactly a hardship.

 

[OhTheLove]

So did the developer ever communicate if a harem path exists? Or do I have to start separating playthrough saves? It has a pretty serious story with a grounded setting so I wouldn't be surprised if no harem path exists.

 

[johnsman]

Some of you are over analyzing it. The hate from Laura in this case comes from being lied to lmao, that simple. Yes, MC isn't the leader, and like he said, he's not some abusive controlling husband, they can just do whatever they want without playing some stupid manipulative game. Now, if they made a decision for themselves and the MC did try to forbid them from doing something, then that would actually make him a dictator. So the two options here are that either Laura does view him as a dictator and that's why she hid it, in which case she should try to get away from him and do her own thing, or she just lied for the fuck of it, which is annoying.

 

[e6mill]

Some of you are over analyzing it. The hate from Laura in this case comes from being lied to lmao, that simple. Yes, MC isn't the leader, and like he said, he's not some abusive controlling husband, they can just do whatever they want without playing some stupid manipulative game. Now, if they made a decision for themselves and the MC did try to forbid them from doing something, then that would actually make him a dictator. So the two options here are that either Laura does view him as a dictator and that's why she hid it, in which case she should try to get away from him and do her own thing, or she just lied for the fuck of it, which is annoying.

What lie was that? I don't recall her promising anything or saying exactly what she was going to be doing. But she did kinda leave poor K holding the bag.

 

[Thamperalvision]

What lie was that? I don't recall her promising anything or saying exactly what she was going to be doing. But she did kinda leave poor K holding the bag.

She technically didn't lie, but asking Kallie to distract him was deceptive, they treated him like a controlling Tyrant who they were trying to get away from lol. Like the other dude said, MC isn't the ultimate decision maker and they could've done whatever they wanted without the manipulations.