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[DatWanGai]

Japan is absolutely contradictory when it comes to this. They’re super open—you’ve got love hotels, soapies, full-on adult sections in stores behind nothing but a curtain—but then they still pixelate genitals because of some outdated law? That’s textbook contradiction. Especially compared to places like the U.S., which is way more uptight about sexuality in general but doesn’t censor that way.

The 18+ disclaimer is honestly the bare minimum if Japanese devs want to sell to a global audience. But even that’s rarely used—and that’s the issue. A lot of them don’t even try to distance their content from underage-looking characters.

If they want to avoid region locks, payment processor bans, and actually reach Western audiences, they shouldn’t just slap on a disclaimer—they should stop drawing characters that look underage in the first place. It’s not just about legality, it’s about global standards and basic decency. That kind of stuff has no place in porn. Please leave the kids alone.

But this is japan we are talking about who historically could not care less what the rest of world thinks about them. So ain't nothing gonna change.

Ok, that's fair. I retract what I said before, I was thinking in the concept of just porn itself. U.S. though is very selective about what kinds of sexuality they want to be uptight about and dangerous loose on others. U.S. in general is not a good role model for any kind of talk about ethnics. I say this as an American, watching my fellow 'muricans drown in their own stupidity every day.

Yeah, but the thing about that is majority of devs don't look for a global audience. Vast majority of H games are hosted only on JP sites and are made for JP customers. Some have branch outside of JP because they gained a global audience and not only is that still mostly an afterthought, but they let outside publishers handle it.

They are the ones doing the region locks because they are tired of Westerns telling them what to do (before cleaning up their own messes), they have plenty of options and as I said before those companies took a bigger hit than the independent devs, already touched this: JP customers first, foreign afterthought, then the disclaimer itself is pretty much what I said it was: a band-aid, their culture; their rules (though they are fighting against loli material, slowly). Global standards are full of hypocrisy and changes by the minute, basic decency....in porn... "textbook contradiction". Don't care. What kids? Very reality vs. fiction statement that gets a fitting response "Go spend your time saving real kids instead."

"But everything I said is basically pointless because I have no control over what others will do" Then don't start the conversation in the first place. At the very least, keep trivializing statements like this out and stand by the close to but not 0% chance that you can change things. Good talk though, I guess?

 

[bakaraider2005]

Ok, that's fair. I retract what I said before, I was thinking in the concept of just porn itself. U.S. though is very selective about what kinds of sexuality they want to be uptight about and dangerous loose on others. U.S. in general is not a good role model for any kind of talk about ethnics. I say this as an American, watching my fellow 'muricans drown in their own stupidity every day.

Yeah, but the thing about that is majority of devs don't look for a global audience. Vast majority of H games are hosted only on JP sites and are made for JP customers. Some have branch outside of JP because they gained a global audience and not only is that still mostly an afterthought, but they let outside publishers handle it.

They are the ones doing the region locks because they are tired of Westerns telling them what to do (before cleaning up their own messes), they have plenty of options and as I said before those companies took a bigger hit than the independent devs, already touched this: JP customers first, foreign afterthought, then the disclaimer itself is pretty much what I said it was: a band-aid, their culture; their rules (though they are fighting against loli material, slowly). Global standards are full of hypocrisy and changes by the minute, basic decency....in porn... "textbook contradiction". Don't care. What kids? Very reality vs. fiction statement that gets a fitting response "Go spend your time saving real kids instead."

"But everything I said is basically pointless because I have no control over what others will do" Then don't start the conversation in the first place. At the very least, keep trivializing statements like this out and stand by the close to but not 0% chance that you can change things. Good talk though, I guess?

What a insufferable d*ckhead they are, trying to enforce their "moral superiority" on a pirate porn games forum. People like that are barking loudly when they see "loli" but goes whimper and silent when presented with actual case of CA and **. Those people are the same with many western journalist/streamer/e-celebs that talks loud against "loli" and then few months later get arrested for grooming/r*pe/abusing real children or possessing real ** material. Those people treat fictional characters as real person and treat real person as fictional characters. They're the real evil.

DLsite and other JP local online store are blocking foreign IP address so we can't even see some games without using local JP IP address. They're done with western meddling of their culture. I'm now buying games in DLsite using points bought from asian online shop using my local bank account, totally bypassing visa/mc payment. It's much cheaper, secure and directly support the JP devs. I also bought from 072 project. Anywhere else I'd rather pirate than buying with visa/mc/paypal. Unless those company completely backtrack their stance, removing their rules and "guidance" and not pressuring JP store/game devs to censor their games again, I will not using them ever again for anything.

 

[SleepW4lker]

Okay, the game page is no longer available for my region... interesting. Could someone give us an update on development?

 

[DatWanGai]

Okay, the game page is no longer available for my region... interesting. Could someone give us an update on development?

Nothing to report. Despite the game page being unavailable outside Japan, I still have full access to their ci:en page and can interact with any updates as normal. The game hasn't been updated and there's no news on their ci:en account.

 

[Zabimuee]

+1

 

[VNLXV]

What a insufferable d*ckhead they are, trying to enforce their "moral superiority" on a pirate porn games forum. People like that are barking loudly when they see "loli" but goes whimper and silent when presented with actual case of CA and **. Those people are the same with many western journalist/streamer/e-celebs that talks loud against "loli" and then few months later get arrested for grooming/r*pe/abusing real children or possessing real ** material. Those people treat fictional characters as real person and treat real person as fictional characters. They're the real evil.

DLsite and other JP local online store are blocking foreign IP address so we can't even see some games without using local JP IP address. They're done with western meddling of their culture. I'm now buying games in DLsite using points bought from asian online shop using my local bank account, totally bypassing visa/mc payment. It's much cheaper, secure and directly support the JP devs. I also bought from 072 project. Anywhere else I'd rather pirate than buying with visa/mc/paypal. Unless those company completely backtrack their stance, removing their rules and "guidance" and not pressuring JP store/game devs to censor their games again, I will not using them ever again for anything.

Lol yes the enriched culture of being into minors. And Idk why you guys keep bringing up the west or what not. Two wrongs don't make a right. I never said the west was perfect by any means. The only thing I said about the west or rather a "Global" audience is if devs want to make MONEY. You know the thing that keeps the lights on? The thing that causes devs to make games in the first place? I want good devs to succeed. But they can't expect to hit that global audience if they are making content the vast majority of the world thinks is wrong. And idk where you are getting this idea where I don't care about irl pedos? If I was faced with a creep like that I'd happily introduce them to the pavement, permamently.

 

[Carl42069180]

Wonder if we’ll ever get v1.3 dev deserves the credit for powering through

not to mention there’s some pretty good changes there

 

[DatWanGai]

Wonder if we’ll ever get v1.3 dev deserves the credit for powering through

not to mention there’s some pretty good changes there

This dev's work is pretty slow. But they usually always delivery, they are sadly about 6 months late from their original release timeline for 1.3 but hopefully it'll be worth the wait.

Lol yes the enriched culture of being into minors. And Idk why you guys keep bringing up the west or what not. Two wrongs don't make a right. I never said the west was perfect by any means. The only thing I said about the west or rather a "Global" audience is if devs want to make MONEY. You know the thing that keeps the lights on? The thing that causes devs to make games in the first place? I want good devs to succeed. But they can't expect to hit that global audience if they are making content the vast majority of the world thinks is wrong. And idk where you are getting this idea where I don't care about irl pedos? If I was faced with a creep like that I'd happily introduce them to the pavement, permamently.

Final time talking about this, everything needed to be said has already been said.
No more than 20% of JP indie games make it outside Japan (This dev has 3 games and not one is available for EN) and when they do seek an outside JP audience half the time they only aim towards CN and KR. 10% maybe less of the games on DLSite are available in English and that number gets lower when you include FANZA and even lower when you include other places such of MelonBooks.
For the love of all things intelligent, figure out why that is already. They DO NOT expect to hit an global audience, they do not make their games with an global audience in mind, and the times they do expand outside JP, guess what happens? Even without the band-aids and changes to fit the thought process of "the vast majority of the world" the games STILL sales well.

Just look at Living with Sister: Monochrome Fantasy. The game features incest and loli content both frown heavily upon by the masses. Yet it did extremely well both in JP (100k) and outside (around 10k) getting a 96% approval rate on Steam of all places. Summer Memories, loli/shota/incest over 20k sales, 92% approval rate. People just care rather or not the game is enjoyable, enough fucking said. If it's not your thing, cool. But keep the virtue signaling to a minimal, yeah?

 

[VNLXV]

This dev's work is pretty slow. But they usually always delivery, they are sadly about 6 months late from their original release timeline for 1.3 but hopefully it'll be worth the wait.


Final time talking about this, everything needed to be said has already been said.
No more than 20% of JP indie games make it outside Japan (This dev has 3 games and not one is available for EN) and when they do seek an outside JP audience half the time they only aim towards CN and KR. 10% maybe less of the games on DLSite are available in English and that number gets lower when you include FANZA and even lower when you include other places such of MelonBooks.
For the love of all things intelligent, figure out why that is already. They DO NOT expect to hit an global audience, they do not make their games with an global audience in mind, and the times they do expand outside JP, guess what happens? Even without the band-aids and changes to fit the thought process of "the vast majority of the world" the games STILL sales well.

Just look at Living with Sister: Monochrome Fantasy. The game features incest and loli content both frown heavily upon by the masses. Yet it did extremely well both in JP (100k) and outside (around 10k) getting a 96% approval rate on Steam of all places. Summer Memories, loli/shota/incest over 20k sales, 92% approval rate. People just care rather or not the game is enjoyable, enough fucking said. If it's not your thing, cool. But keep the virtue signaling to a minimal, yeah?

L mindset then. When I start my own business I hope I don't ever hire someone that wants to cap my growth like that.You think Toyota, Honda, Sony, Nintendo all got to that point selling only to Japan?

And the fact those games are selling just fine on steam shows how idiotic the bans are on Dlsite. The only ones to blame is dlsite and othere japanese platforms. Steam has no problem selling 'problematic" content.

 

[bakaraider2005]

L mindset then. When I start my own business I hope I don't ever hire someone that wants to cap my growth like that.You think Toyota, Honda, Sony, Nintendo all got to that point selling only to Japan?

Are you trying to equate porn games with mainstream product and service? The logical fallacy is staggering lol.

And the fact those games are selling just fine on steam shows how idiotic the bans are on Dlsite. The only ones to blame is dlsite and othere japanese platforms.

Are you really uninformed or just lying to deceive us? The content's being blocked to view outside of Japan is because of your beloved censorious western payment processor trying to dictate what can and cannot be sold on DLsite, a Japanese companies operating on Japanese soil and selling for Japanese market. That's a display of arrogance, self-entitled, wretched "moral high ground" that see themselves above everyone else. DLsite had to restrict view and sales in order to protect their industries and livelihood of many people who sell their local product on DLsite on their own country. Trying to put the blames on DLsite and other JP platform just show how hypocrite and arrogance your mindset is.

Steam has no problem selling 'problematic" content.

This is really laughable statement. There is many report from H-games company and small doujin circle that Steam just either refused to review their games or need to "modify" their content to "satisfy" the Steam review team. The fact that some "problematic" games like Living with Sister are allowed on Steam is just show how hypocrite they are with their own "morality" standard.

 

[VNLXV]

Are you trying to equate porn games with mainstream product and service? The logical fallacy is staggering lol.

Why not? A product is a product. Playboy is a household name and its for adults. And are you trying to claim that there isn't money in selling to a global audience in porn? Do you hear how ridiculous that is? Random indie creators on patreon rake in 10k a month.

OK so if that is Visa/MC fault why does steam not have this issue? And the moral high ground of leave kids alone? Wow. The bar is on the ground.

 

[LIONREX]

Any can share his translation pls

 

[arms1989]

Still remember after N-Plus final patch, dev announce Clean-Girl and casually updated his progression in his blog

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until 2021 March, everything went dead silence...until the point i think dev quit developed, then suddenly 2 years later, BAM! a playable demo released!


Lets hope that Clean girl V1.3 released as soon as possible this year