sneezy_of_tie

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adding to the above reply, you can starve yourself to lose 1 size on breast/butt/hips (random) regularly, but you'll suffer the strength penalty while hungry + permanent strength loss on the 2+ consecutive starvation.
Does that also work when the game sets the new body proportions as normal?
If it doesn't you need to be in an early stage of being hungry to get the starvation trigger before the new normal. A tincture of acceleration should help, just make sure you have a friendly guard (or shopkeeper with a low enough level of cum tolerance) around to ask for a drink when that one goes into the red.
 

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Does that also work when the game sets the new body proportions as normal?
If it doesn't you need to be in an early stage of being hungry to get the starvation trigger before the new normal. A tincture of acceleration should help, just make sure you have a friendly guard (or shopkeeper with a low enough level of cum tolerance) around to ask for a drink when that one goes into the red.
No, starting body proportions are already you new "minimum normal" so you can't reduce below that. No cheating the starting points by starving yourself, haha.
 

IncestGuy

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On windows, my anti virus keeps flagging and deleting the git program linked to in the opening post. Does anyone else have this problem?
 

TheodoreBear

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On windows, my anti virus keeps flagging and deleting the git program linked to in the opening post. Does anyone else have this problem?
All of us have the same problem. it is definitely a false positive. I suggest you read the #How to Download - Everyone Else part of . There is a link to an earlier version of git. I personally prefer gargoyle (use , it does not trigger antiviruses, for sure)
 

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On windows, my anti virus keeps flagging and deleting the git program linked to in the opening post. Does anyone else have this problem?
Any .exe file will probably be flagged if they do not pay Microsoft somewhere in the neighborhood of 600 to 650 dollars a year so Microsoft approves it.

And no body making a free program is going to pay that. so I mean yeah it could have a virus, but I would bet the odds are against it when it is such a popular program.

I have been running git for several year's now (No Problems).

but depending on who or where you get it from, it could have a bunch of questionable items that try to get installed when it is install, just watch for that.

In order to install it you will have to download it to a folder, and install it in a folder that you set and exception on in your virus protection.
 

IncestGuy

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Thanks.


I've run into a new problem however. I've started up the game, and the view of your body isn't there. I've tried both Danamue and strateg, but there is nothing shown. :(
 

sneezy_of_tie

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Any .exe file will probably be flagged if they do not pay Microsoft somewhere in the neighborhood of 600 to 650 dollars a year so Microsoft approves it.
This is bullshit conspiracy mongering. Aside from that they said their virus scanner, in no way indicating that it is the default windows defender. Which stands to reason since at least 27 scanners (that have an online version of the same database that they use for on computer virus scanners) trigger on WinGit 1.3.7, Microsoft is not among those 27.

That said what happens when you access a file that that producer didn't pay Microsoft for is that you may (that means it is not even guaranteed) get a warning that it is an unrecognized file and if you are sure that you want to access it.

The problem is with how a virus scanner identifies possible infections (note what comes next is just one of the ways it works). It cannot, for obvious reasons, contain a complete match of all viruses it can identify. So it takes snippets of the code that are distinct, the problem is that word distinct, sometimes other files that are not viruses contain the same sequence and thus trigger the scanner into warning about/containing/deleting the file in question. At this point the only way out is altering the code until the scanners stop having a cow.
 
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TheodoreBear

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Thanks.


I've run into a new problem however. I've started up the game, and the view of your body isn't there. I've tried both Danamue and strateg, but there is nothing shown. :(
make sure that the character window option is ON in the settings (IMAGE AND LAYOUT SETTINGS->GRAPHICAL USER INTERFACE SETTINGS->Character Window: ON)
 

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This is bullshit conspiracy mongering. Aside from that they said their virus scanner, in no way indicating that it is the default windows defender. Which stands to reason since at least 27 scanners (that have an online version of the same database that they use for on computer virus scanners) trigger on WinGit 1.3.7, Microsoft is not among those 27.

That said what happens when you access a file that that producer didn't pay Microsoft for is that you may (that means it is not even guaranteed) get a warning that it is an unrecognized file and if you are sure that you want to access it.

The problem is with how a virus scanner identifies possible infections (note what comes next is just one of the ways it works). It cannot, for obvious reasons, contain a complete match of all viruses it can identify. So it takes snippets of the code that are distinct, the problem is that word distinct, sometimes other files that are not viruses contain the same sequence and thus trigger the scanner into warning about/containing/deleting the file in question. At this point the only way out is altering the code until the scanners stop having a cow.
I think I said " Any .exe file will probably be flagged "

And yes it is true that many Virus protection programs do use the Microsoft approved list on .EXE files. Some people will complain that a program is safe, and if enough people do that the Virus protection company may or may not take the time to test the program. Those will get a possible unsafe warning, but not and instant quarantine.

But I understand you fear of false Conspiracy or your troll post to see if I would bite.

But it all does sort of boil down to the Protection program, some are better than other's and some just ban anything that they don't have on there approval list.
 

sneezy_of_tie

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I think I said " Any .exe file will probably be flagged "

And yes it is true that many Virus protection programs do use the Microsoft approved list on .EXE files. Some people will complain that a program is safe, and if enough people do that the Virus protection company may or may not take the time to test the program. Those will get a possible unsafe warning, but not and instant quarantine.

But I understand you fear of false Conspiracy or your troll post to see if I would bite.

But it all does sort of boil down to the Protection program, some are better than other's and some just ban anything that they don't have on there approval list.
The bullshit conspiracy mongering is you claiming that Microsoft would engage in blatantly false flagging of files to extort money, the weasel wording to try and get out of it when called on that bullshit not withstanding. Any good conspiracy spouter I've run into so far pulls the same What If stunt and then gets indignant when called out on it because they never stated a fact just a What If. So it is not a troll, it is you being called out for trying to peddle the bullshit conspiracy theory that Microsoft would blatantly false flag files to extort money.
If you don't like being called a conspiracy nutjob don't behave like one. And that includes trying to claim I can be ignored by asserting I'm a troll for daring to point out your behavior cannot be distinguished from the run of the mill conspiracy mongers. That just so happens to be standard fare for conspiracy mongers, asserting someone is a heckler that can be ignored without ever bringing proof of why they can be ignored other then the conspiracy monger saying so just because the so called heckler dares to expose them.

You also show a complete lack of understanding of how a virus scanner works.
They do not have white/blacklists not created by the end user as you imply for example; That is the way of endless litigation once the malware/virus peddlers find out about that when the reverse engineer that scanner (and yes they do that, it isn't trivial but worth the time invested to understand the enemy) and start pushing their wares through that hole. What happens is that they look for another distinct snippet of code and use that as fingerprint instead if a big enough product gets false flagged.
The closest that comes to whitelisting is code signing, and yes you need to pay Microsoft, or any organization Microsoft approved for code signing, for that. Why isn't it the same, well you get a finger print file of the code that has been signed and if the code doesn't map to that fingerprint you get the complaint and/or warning popups (and not a delete/quarantine of the file in question). It also means that every single time there is a change to the underlying code you need to get it signed again.

Similarly it seems you are conflating access control with how a virus scanner works. Access control is generally used on the enterprise level. Microsoft ships the option in Windows Defender (for enterprises) since Win10. What it does is prevent people from accessing files at all, not wipe them. It so happens you can let WDAC run on a reputation system, which is a form of white listing, for files not explicitly white/black listed or restricted by your organization. But that still would not result in said file being flagged as containing a virus/malware, it would just prevent the unauthorized from accessing the file.

P.s.: In this case it doesn't matter that some virus scanners use the Microsoft fingerprint database seeing that Microsoft gives WinGit 1.3.7 a clean bill of health. There are at least 5 other databases that ping on the git.exe though.
 

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The bullshit conspiracy mongering is you claiming that Microsoft would engage in blatantly false flagging of files to extort money, the weasel wording to try and get out of it when called on that bullshit not withstanding.
When did I say that, I said " Any .exe file will probably be flagged if they do not pay Microsoft somewhere in the neighborhood of 600 to 650 dollars a year so Microsoft approves it. " (You fully mistook what I said, and I also may have posted it poorly, by not mentioning there not being on Microsoft's approved list.)

Microsoft does not extort, but they do have a list of approved program's. The virus scanner uses this list as well as a known Trojan and virus list, and also know signatures of said Items.

You must have a very angry person to be so insulting (And type so much.) with your post, but I fully understand, we all want to be right.

I was just trying to help some one, My intentions were good, and you have been constantly reprimanding me, with no real help that I can see. (Except a Huge wall of text.)
 

sneezy_of_tie

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When did I say that, I said " Any .exe file will probably be flagged if they do not pay Microsoft somewhere in the neighborhood of 600 to 650 dollars a year so Microsoft approves it. " (You fully mistook what I said, and I also may have posted it poorly, by not mentioning there not being on Microsoft's approved list.)

Microsoft does not extort, but they do have a list of approved program's. The virus scanner uses this list as well as a known Trojan and virus list, and also know signatures of said Items.

You must have a very angry person to be so insulting (And type so much.) with your post, but I fully understand, we all want to be right.

I was just trying to help some one, My intentions were good, and you have been constantly reprimanding me, with no real help that I can see. (Except a Huge wall of text.)
And there comes more of the typical conspiracy mongering tricks. The I didn't say that literally, you are not allowed to interpret what I'm saying like that, trying to make it about the other, the why are you so angry that you are personally attacking me, the why can't you be civil.
The reprimanding is correct for the simple reason that in a discussion about virus scanners that delete potential threats and due to that false flagged Git1.3.7 you came in with the bullshit conspiracy theory that Microsoft was deliberately flagging files and you worded it in such a way that the correct interpretation based on the discussion you injected yourself in is: 'Microsoft is deliberately false flagging files to trigger virus scanners in an attempt to extort money'.
You just compounded that you hold that conspiracy theory seeing that you consider me being angry. Which tends to be on par for the course when giving a conspiracy nutjob no room to flee to in such a way that they do not have to repudiate the conspiracy theory they hold true. It is as if I'm attacking the conspiracy nutjob directly for them holding the 'truth', which since the conspiracy theory tends to be a part of their identity isn't wrong. It just isn't that I'm attacking the nutjob I'm going after the conspiracy theory, the nutjob as a special snowflake doesn't even really register since I as some anonymous figure on the internet am not the right person to to put it bluntly deprogram them.
 

Birrah'Lai

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When did I say that, I said " Any .exe file will probably be flagged if they do not pay Microsoft somewhere in the neighborhood of 600 to 650 dollars a year so Microsoft approves it. " (You fully mistook what I said, and I also may have posted it poorly, by not mentioning there not being on Microsoft's approved list.)

Microsoft does not extort, but they do have a list of approved program's. The virus scanner uses this list as well as a known Trojan and virus list, and also know signatures of said Items.

You must have a very angry person to be so insulting (And type so much.) with your post, but I fully understand, we all want to be right.

I was just trying to help some one, My intentions were good, and you have been constantly reprimanding me, with no real help that I can see. (Except a Huge wall of text.)
I'm so sorry you had to go thru this, i have seem sneezy_of_tie's posts before and i have never seem they posting like this, it must be a sensible topic for them.

let's just never mention it again, as it benefits no one.
 
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The bullshit conspiracy mongering is you claiming that Microsoft would engage in blatantly false flagging of files to extort money, the weasel wording to try and get out of it when called on that bullshit not withstanding. Any good conspiracy spouter I've run into so far pulls the same What If stunt and then gets indignant when called out on it because they never stated a fact just a What If. So it is not a troll, it is you being called out for trying to peddle the bullshit conspiracy theory that Microsoft would blatantly false flag files to extort money.
If you don't like being called a conspiracy nutjob don't behave like one. And that includes trying to claim I can be ignored by asserting I'm a troll for daring to point out your behavior cannot be distinguished from the run of the mill conspiracy mongers. That just so happens to be standard fare for conspiracy mongers, asserting someone is a heckler that can be ignored without ever bringing proof of why they can be ignored other then the conspiracy monger saying so just because the so called heckler dares to expose them.

You also show a complete lack of understanding of how a virus scanner works.
They do not have white/blacklists not created by the end user as you imply for example; That is the way of endless litigation once the malware/virus peddlers find out about that when the reverse engineer that scanner (and yes they do that, it isn't trivial but worth the time invested to understand the enemy) and start pushing their wares through that hole. What happens is that they look for another distinct snippet of code and use that as fingerprint instead if a big enough product gets false flagged.
The closest that comes to whitelisting is code signing, and yes you need to pay Microsoft, or any organization Microsoft approved for code signing, for that. Why isn't it the same, well you get a finger print file of the code that has been signed and if the code doesn't map to that fingerprint you get the complaint and/or warning popups (and not a delete/quarantine of the file in question). It also means that every single time there is a change to the underlying code you need to get it signed again.

Similarly it seems you are conflating access control with how a virus scanner works. Access control is generally used on the enterprise level. Microsoft ships the option in Windows Defender (for enterprises) since Win10. What it does is prevent people from accessing files at all, not wipe them. It so happens you can let WDAC run on a reputation system, which is a form of white listing, for files not explicitly white/black listed or restricted by your organization. But that still would not result in said file being flagged as containing a virus/malware, it would just prevent the unauthorized from accessing the file.

P.s.: In this case it doesn't matter that some virus scanners use the Microsoft fingerprint database seeing that Microsoft gives WinGit 1.3.7 a clean bill of health. There are at least 5 other databases that ping on the git.exe though.
Dude, get Bill Gates' dick out your mouth, and stop taking porn game forum posting so seriously lmao.
 
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kirito123451

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I am new to this game and i wanted to know what the most popular version of this game since i will probably only play one of them
 

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I am new to this game and i wanted to know what the most popular version of this game since i will probably only play one of them
The different versions are just different art styles. The second preview picture on the first post should show you the style differences. I personally prefer Keriax because of how it displays traps.
 
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I am new to this game and i wanted to know what the most popular version of this game since i will probably only play one of them
W and K are good paperdolls that display asset expansion, C is useless for anything but clothing display, and I have no experience with S and D as I don't personally like the art style
 
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I've just started to play Trap Quest. I opted to download the Strateg version, as I thought its sample image looked the coolest. As I'm playing on a 32-bit machine, I downloaded the 32-bit version of git version 1.35. I've managed to get the game running, but there aren't any graphics. Instead I see an error message "Glk library error: image_get_info: graphics not supported. Is there a git graphics library that I need to download from somewhere (it'll need to be 32-bit)? Or do I need to set an option in git? If so, how do I do that?
 

Birrah'Lai

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I've just started to play Trap Quest. I opted to download the Strateg version, as I thought its sample image looked the coolest. As I'm playing on a 32-bit machine, I downloaded the 32-bit version of git version 1.35. I've managed to get the game running, but there aren't any graphics. Instead I see an error message "Glk library error: image_get_info: graphics not supported. Is there a git graphics library that I need to download from somewhere (it'll need to be 32-bit)? Or do I need to set an option in git? If so, how do I do that?
I have never seen someone encountering a problem like that :unsure:
Could you please try with Gargoyle just to rule it out?
(Git and gargoyle are about the same).

Btw Strateg is one of the versions with the least amount of features.
 
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