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Yeppers34

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I feel like if they aren't gonna finish it then if anything they should flesh out the world more, maybe add more options and side quests, or just add more to characters who have almost no damn content.
If they went back and did that it'll be another 8 years of development just too flesh out existing characters and the setting
 
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Jaz0n

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Amen brother, im glad im not alone. I did a fk it run where i agreed and skipped through her content just to see how much was there and was blown away by how much it seems to be but I can't play it and fully enjoy it because of 2 whole prerequisites that i have to opt into or I can't even interact with this character at all (having to have a vag AND lying to her).
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Out of pure curiosity, I made a save edit where Steel is basically one of those Phaedra femboys. You know female features, but still wielding a D.
Suze is cool with smashing you even if you got a D. She just doesn't want you to be BIGGER than her.
Trying to compensate for something. Hell, Dane and Verusha is twice as big as her in every aspect, and they're cool with us being the one giving.

F**k this, I'll wait on the next patch

That's someone fetish right there, and I ain't flying with that. Suze is for the guy who wrote her, and that's it.
 

Warphorror

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So the new character ignore the existence of futanari players? Never once was it acknowledge that my character has vaginas (three) but only that she wants to transform my dick into a pussy which my character already has.
 

Jaz0n

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So the new character ignore the existence of futanari players? Never once was it acknowledge that my character has vaginas (three) but only that she wants to transform my dick into a pussy which my character already has.
...

Your character has 3 pussies?
 
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First saw her dialouge i thought she was gonna be another Verusha (who i grew to love in her own way) which i would've loved because getting to know her was interesting since you eventually get to break her down and show her tenderness as well as turning the tables but sadly not.:FacePalm:
I feel like she is Discount Luca lol.

Do you get dicked by Luca in almost all options? yuuuuuuuuuuuuup, but by the end you two are basically a couple (you are the subby but she is more than fine allowing you to fuck her), her relationship is actually pretty cute and her ending MASSIVELY changes if you become truly intimate with her (normally she makes you her bitch and shop attraction, however have the relationship at max and she will actually marry you and see as and have children with you), and even if you don't fuck her you can talk with her a bit as well and get some background.

You play as a guy who can deal with futa and dickgirls but arent into getting fucked in the ass, well too bad because this character is only into fucking people with strapon
Shout out to Ramis, Edan, and Lieve, they have preferences but they still have content and you can learn about them (especially Ramis and Lieve who become bros)
 
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Dremo

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Suze is literally Riya 2.0; unnecessarily restrictive in the same exact way and therefore just as pointless.

Thought Jasvalla was a nice compromise for those kind of "I want you to have a vagina" dickgirl type of characters by still having decent scenes for those who don't adhere to it, but it seems like they not only don't tire of making more of these (probably by forgetting they already did that trope multiple times), but also forgot how to compromise on it like they already did.
 

jackeasy

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Suze is literally Riya 2.0; unnecessarily restrictive in the same exact way and therefore just as pointless.

Thought Jasvalla was a nice compromise for those kind of "I want you to have a vagina" dickgirl type of characters by still having decent scenes for those who don't adhere to it, but it seems like they not only don't tire of making more of these (probably by forgetting they already did that trope multiple times), but also forgot how to compromise on it like they already did.
Yea.. at least in Nonesuch's defense Suze makes accommodating those restrictions easier (temporary transformation for 24 hours if you talk to her again). But that combined with the awkward bit about her not wanting anything to do with a Steele family member just ruins my motivation to even bother interacting with the character.
 

Grey75

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Can't help but give another massive eyeroll at yet another dickgirl. I like them fine enough but, ffs, it's like that's all they ever put in the game as far as new characters lately. Just want a real Bianca momdom equivalent we can actually fuck.
 
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>Suze calls you "sucker"
>has, as far as I can tell, ONE oral scene that you can only trigger when you first meet her
lol
edit: nevermind I found a second one literally right after posting this, but still
 
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AsdfMan123

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I swear you'll get whiplash going from CoC2's thread to this thread. People will continually complain in CoC2 about transformations, and other effects having very minimal affect on the character, story, or scenes. Then you will have people in here complaining that their gigachad masculine character with a 20inch cock can't get fucked by the hyper-masculine aggressive dom who is only interested in submissive "suckboys" as she so lovingly calls them.

"I want a uniquely tailored experience based on my character's attributes, appearance, sexual equipment."
>can't fuck character because shes not interested in your type.
"wait not like that." :cry:
 
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I swear you'll get whiplash going from CoC2's thread to this thread. People will continually complain in CoC2 about transformations, and other effects having very minimal effect on the character, story, or scenes. Then you will have people in here complaining that their gigachad masculine character with a 20inch cock can't get fucked by the hyper-masculine aggressive dom who is only interested in submissive "suckboys" as she so lovingly calls them.

"I want a uniquely tailored experience based on my character's attributes, appearance, sexual equipment."
>can't fuck character because shes not interested in your type.
"wait not like that." :cry:
i see that board and I rarely say much there because I can agree they can be a little too judgmental sometimes.

Okay, in this game i'm pretty basic. Im a lion modded *straight* guy. Overall my build is pretty normal besides having more than 2 penises, neither one are even close to 20 inches (yes i know you were somewhat kidding). The issue isn't overall the fact that "me guy want fuck everything", its the fact that in both games, you as a character has noooo preferences after you hit LETS FUCK. There are some characters who's options tell you what is going to go down if you give the green light but a good number of the sex options will say either nothing or will progress past what you agreed to with no option to cut the session short. To addon to that, in both games i feel like there aren't enough where if the game plan (or sex plan) changes, you are given a choice as to what you are okay with. Example: Sophora attack you and you win, you can choose what you do to her or not. If you choose to engage then after you finish you can choose to keep going or stop. Yes i know this is a taint mechanic thing (you can lose yourself doing stuff with her and get a bad end) but the point is that you have a choice. There are other sessions where you have mid fuck options and it adds complexity to the character and your sessions with them.


Secondly the prob with characters like Suze is that, you have to be this way and if you aren't then you don't get to even interact with this character AT ALL. If you don't pass her prereqs then you can't learn about her, become a friend, go out drinking, be a wing person, show her that she could give you a try, nothing.
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Jaz0n

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i see that board and I rarely say much there because I can agree they can be a little too judgmental sometimes.

Okay, in this game i'm pretty basic. Im a lion modded *straight* guy. The issue isn't overall the fact that "me guy want fuck everything", its the fact that in both games, you as a character has noooo preferences after you hit LETS FUCK. There are some characters who's options tell you what is going to go down if you give the green light but a good number of the sex options will say either nothing or will progress past what you agreed to with no option to cut the session short. To addon to that, in both games i feel like there aren't enough where if the game plan (or sex plan) changes, you are given a choice as to what you are okay with. Example: Sophora attack you and you win, you can choose what you do to her or not. If you choose to engage then after you finish you can choose to keep going or stop. Yes i know this is a taint mechanic thing (you can lose yourself doing stuff with her and get a bad end) but the point is that you have a choice. There are other sessions where you have mid fuck options and it adds complexity to the character and your sessions with them.


Secondly the prob with characters like Suze is that, you have to be this way and if you aren't then you don't get to even interact with this character AT ALL. If you don't pass her prereqs then you can't learn about her, become a friend, go out drinking, be a wing person, show her that she could give you a try, nothing.
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I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Riya is relative to the RUCKUS clan...
 

Mekkor

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to much negativity in here, let's say someting nice for a change
- new dommy mommy who specifically fucks femboys. It's been a while since we got that for twink PCs
- new collar for my collection (why is it an actual item and not managed in your collar menu?)
- isn't this the first chastity content for the PC outside of one-liners in bad ends?
- practically garanteed upcoming holiday themed art where Suze just wears a tree costume to go as a christmas tree

actual critique:
- no snakebyte variant when sucking her off
- doesn't mention if you wear the clothes or collar Suze gets you
- Taurs suffer yet again. Suze won't even show on the map if you're a taur

one day my 4-foot tall leithan pc will get their race specific scene, too. I want somebody to ride my war pony into battle!
 

Jaz0n

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I will say, I did have a change of opinion after talking with Nonesuch.
I will show you guys his response and then you can form your own opinion.

Nonesuch: I can see this character was not meant for you in the first place, and so was always likely to rile you no matter how sensitively she was written. However, I'll address your two main points.
"Oh so dating a boss is where we draw the line, but dating a dude that needs to take a literal pussy pill, THAT'S A-OK!? HELL THAT'S A NEED FOR YOU!?"
I don't think there's a contradiction there. She has an emotional need to not be dating her work superior, and she also has a particular type she prefers to be dating. You showed a lot of interest, so she came up with a work-around for one of those things. You can say she's demanding, and that certainly may be true, but I don't think what she wants are contradictory.
"Suze has had bad relationships before with people who lie and screw her over.
And in order to even date Suze, YOU NEED TO LIE TO HER ABOUT WHO YOU ARE!?"
Yes, isn't that interesting? It's almost as if the author might have deliberately set that tension up, but didn't resolve it because he was already 156 pages deep on a side project and decided he needed to call it a day on what he had for now.
This is a problem with content in general: you have to strike a balance between semi-regular releases so you have something to show for people's interest and support, and pushing out something that's as fully fleshed out and completed to everyone's satisfaction as it can be. Suze's arc clearly isn't complete, and resolving what you tell her to get with her will be the focus of the next expansion I'll eventually do for her. I appreciate that's frustrating, but that's just how it is when this is in no way your main bread winner. Sorry.


Me: Well sh*t bro.
Listen, I like Suze as a character, hell both her design and personality is spot on. It even makes sense for her having a moderate sized "sword" since being around "sword"-swinging Taurs for most of her career tends to push someone to make a change.
And again, I don't have a problem with being on the receiving end of someone's pent up energy. Hells I shared my save edit with you, go to Tavros and you'll see two giant muscular ladies with battering rams in the resident section. (Verusha and Mirrin)
You think they were there when I first booted up the game?
Now those two were heavily doms to begin with, and they're cool with me being who I am, as long I agree with who's in charge.
For some reason, you made it different with Suze. I know some characters have a certain type or requirement of their partner. Rhea Batra does you only if you're a lady and Ara Kei will only do it with you if you're okay with being pregnant after.
Now that doesn't work here with Suze due to one point. You made her cool with Femboys...
And femboys tend to have TWO main holes, same as a regular man.
Hell, I even edited my character to be a femboy inorder to see those scenes, and it's legitmately written no differently as if she wouldn't do it with a regular manly dude.
The only particular scene that is different, is the one where Suze gives Steel a HJ while observing and commenting on their "sword"-size.
... I understand her having a certain favorable type. But if she's desperate enough, which is also said due to even offering the p-pill in the first place.
I don't understand how the work around couldn't just be manly Steel promising that he knows what his role is in this relatioship, not try to do anything funny and do as Suze say without rebuttel. If Macho Steel ain't cool with those terms, he can take a hike. And I'd be cool cause that'll be fair, considering how Suze likes a relationship. But asking/demanding that you need put on a "sucker" even if it is temp, is like Suze asking for a mile, when she herself knows that the inch (pucker) is more than enough to get her where she needs to go. (Climax-ville)
For better or for worse bro, you dropped the ball. That's a fact, at least on that point.
However... I will give you, your due apology over the second point.
Being a writer myself, I can understand the pressure of a deadline creeping up on you while trying to finish the most you can do to a satisfactory level that can also be released.
So for that, I am sorry for not taking in the fact that a possible continuation in Suze's story is still in the works.
Though to be fair, a lot of writers in TiTS have dropped characters at some point and then for some reason or other not do anything with them. Sophora and Jasvalla comes to mind, but again, I don't how the people in Fenoxo or Savin operates, so I'll just sit down over that point.
But maybe in the future whenever there comes a new character, just mention that you either got more plans with them or if they're just a one-off update.
I don't want you to overextend yourself in terms of your job, and I sure as hell don't want to tell you about how to write YOUR character.
But I will ask that maybe you could try to see things from every angle, and maybe update Suze to be cool with a tall, hung, masculine Steel that is willing to be her boytoy but also friend and partner. Pretty please?
Because if my macho Steel has to pop another one of those pills just to work out with that tall chocolate beauty, some poor pharmacy in Canadia is getting the Planet Vegeta treatment.

Nonesuch: Thank you for being understanding regarding content incompleteness. You make a reasonable point about not being more upfront about that here, and I'll endeavour to be more so in future by telling the build-pusher specifically what needs to be advertised about an NPC/piece of content on the front page.
In-universe, Suze likes femboys and c-boys because she finds them cute and non-threatening. She doesn't like males and herms much because she spends all of her working week around them. If you're willing to go the extra mile and take your dick off for an evening, she'll be impressed enough that she'll go out with you. Does that make her irrational? Yes! I don't really make excuses for that. Humans don't always make sense, and they can drive you up the wall with their particular traits, hang-ups and picadillos. I would make a dozen more Suzes before I'd make a moeblob who's perfectly pleasant in every way and never notices, never gives a single fuck about what you, the player, are.
That, and the amount of work I put into the Masc Off content, means that I'm not minded to open her up to male and herm characters. However, I aim to make her recruitable within said expansion, and since I don't want to endure another Ramis shitstorm at that point I'll probably make her fuckable to all, since it would be frankly ridiculous for her to be continually insisting you take the genemod when she's on your ship. I hope that's good enough for you, and I again apologise for this character being a very frustrating near miss for you.
 
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