Others Trials in Tainted Space [v0.9.116] [Fenoxo]

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Orphanus said:
Yeah that quest turned her from 1 of my favorite characters back in the day into 1 that I completely ignore on any playthrough. After taking a look at her crew content though I feel warranted, she didn't develop in a good direction & her content also reads as if Savin didn't give a fuck about her & TiTS in general anymore...which maybe he actually doesn't, I don't know for sure. Would explain how long it took to even get that half arsed attempt at making her a companion.
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i think it points to a bigger issue of none of the companions really changing much when they join the crew. the game isn't very dynamic at all, but i get what you mean about it seeming low effort. kinda sucks cuz i like the syri hellhound designs
 
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Orphanus said:
Yeah that quest turned her from 1 of my favorite characters back in the day into 1 that I completely ignore on any playthrough. After taking a look at her crew content though I feel warranted, she didn't develop in a good direction & her content also reads as if Savin didn't give a fuck about her & TiTS in general anymore...which maybe he actually doesn't, I don't know for sure. Would explain how long it took to even get that half arsed attempt at making her a companion.
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Syri's quest dropped around 2018, right? And her crew content was developed after that. That was around the same time that CoC2 got started in earnest, and since Savin was/is project lead on that it makes sense that he'd step back from TiTS content.
 
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cooldude5368 said:
i think it points to a bigger issue of none of the companions really changing much when they join the crew. the game isn't very dynamic at all, but i get what you mean about it seeming low effort. kinda sucks cuz i like the syri hellhound designs
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Yeah, that is what I think makes the attempt to force the players to act as if these characters are more than just a projection surface for their kinks so ridiculous. I totally get that in an rpg kinda game where the characters have a lot of dynamic interactions with the protagonist and the story, but not when exactly that is completely missing for the most part.
 
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Hargan2 said:
Syri's quest dropped around 2018, right? And her crew content was developed after that. That was around the same time that CoC2 got started in earnest, and since Savin was/is project lead on that it makes sense that he'd step back from TiTS content.
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Yeah I think so & I understand that, but it also means that he has to accept the fact that many people will not be overly impressed by the way things were done with her in the end. Edit: and it especially means he shouldn't try to further influence what happens in TiTS, since he himself dubs it acceptable to willy nilly fiddle with other people's characters and content in CoC 2. It's borderline narcissistic to be so incredibly sensitive about his TiTS characters, given that.
 
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Hargan2 said:
Oh yeah, I did forget Helia. Though if memory serves she wasn't nearly as slutty as Anno and Cait. I recall a scene with the minotaurs that you could tell her not to repeat and she wouldn't (though I think originally that wasn't an option?) but nothing other than that. It's been far too long since I played CoC though.
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I mean one point is that minotaurs were literally a drug in the first game. I can't recall if the option was added by request or just added in when she was more fleshed out... But the basic was that not everyone was comfortable with her being addicted (or anyone see Marble addiction being altered so we could break it). That and it makes her so much easier to find as she goes to you to get laid, so she can basically stalk you through the game for a bit.
 
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Azriel Satan said:
Roo is a William Character, who until just a month ago, has been absent thanks to real-life issues (starting with a depressed spell thanks to losing contact people, buying and moving into a Home, dealing with housing issues, getting scammed by his insurance company, and then got COVID, garage flooded)
The stuff he has been working on so far in the month he has been back is Sophora, Vanika (Shock Hopper), and the Jumpers. We should be getting a number of new scenes from him very soon (Like a week or two).
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also, any updates for Leila and roo crew?
"When it's done, and no more self-indulgent, impulsive hype from me otherwise."
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Fuck man, I figured it'd still be a while but it still hurts to hear theres no approximation
 
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So does anyone know what's the best way to sell ur stuff in early and late game? I mean to sell the equipment you get from the first mission and some other items.. I wanna sell them because they are quite useless and will only take space however I can't find a vendor that will not offer 1/5 of the price for it.. (early game like tutorial to second probe)
 
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Orphanus said:
about a. Yeah but the problem is that it isn't the character the writers are lecturing, I'm not sure if you ever cared to read through some of the stuff (a lot of it got deleted though because it escalated) that went on over on the Fenoxo forums. Also you misunderstood my point (which might be a result of how I expressed myself though), it's not about not allowing the player to pick how they want their character to act, it's about the lack of a choice in that. With some characters, all written by the same persons. Other characters are written with the mindset of the whole thing being a game that should center around providing an enjoyable experience to the players, not a tool for some writers to try and impose their set of beliefs about how relationships should be handled upon the players. Especially since the usual case is that there isn't even an option to play monogamous, the writers just assume every player is trying a harem playthrough and act antagonistic, which is really crappy towards people even trying to roleplay the way you describe.

about b. I agree, but that isn't achieved by getting into an indirect confrontation with the player, that's just petty and unprofessional. As I've wrote before, don't use your favorite (maybe even self-insert) OC characters in a porn game which is entirely centered around the porn if you aren't fine with them being treated as nothing but a help for others to jerk off to the sex scenes with them. I'm not saying the story parts and the interactions are bad, by any means, but things start to sour as soon as the respective writers start to take themselves, their characters and the fetishized interactions with them too seriously.

c. Yeah, but treating cliché characters in a porn game without any meaningful story like anything else than a tool to make the players happy just isn't a thing. That doesn't improve on the writing, it simply is a fools errand. I agree with what you say but it doesn't apply here.
For that to be valid there would have to be an entirely different level of intricacy and amount of interaction between the characters and the protagonist. As long as the majority of their scenes doesn't even take into account stuff like player virginities, body modifications, the adventures that happened and are happening & the characters aren't a constant presence throughout the entire journey, with meaningful impact on the events, they have no business being treated like secondary protagonists. So it is the other way around, first a character needs to act like a real person, then they can be treated as such by the setting their in.
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My reactions were about generic writing and what one should expect from payed writers, I'm the first to agree it doesn't always apply to this game or CoC, I felt that your points were presented in a very generic way so I reacted as such.
Regarding harem members sleeping around, my compromise is that I tolerate if it happen with character the mc fucks too or if they are present and the choice to avoid it is given to the player. From my opinion Urta x Amily was not a problem compared to Anno or Cait that sleep around with anyone.
 
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cooldude5368 said:
i think it points to a bigger issue of none of the companions really changing much when they join the crew. the game isn't very dynamic at all, but i get what you mean about it seeming low effort. kinda sucks cuz i like the syri hellhound designs
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You know ive thought about that before.How none of the companions you encounter after joining the crew are the EXACT same people but with just more scenes.Its weird cause i know for a fact if i try and play devils advocate in the disc server or forum the as to why this happens ill get some stupid answer like "People dont change that fast" or "Its not that big of a change so it doesnt warrant a change in their character" which in my opinion is stupid and is used as an excuse to cover up one of the many instances of inconsistent and bad writing of this game.

Now to further add 1 complaint to this convo.The personalities option in the character creation sequence do not matter.Yes there are actions that change your personality a bit and some scenes are outright locked if your personality isnt the right one(which in most cases is stupid) but the dialogue changes is MINIMAL at best.For example,at one point in the game i need to side with 1 of 3 factions.1 of these factions are actual slave traders.Since my steeles personality is KIND in my opinion i shoudnt even be able to choose them since it goes against my whole personality as a person.Now you can have a long and meaningless discussion about morals and whatnot but the thing is that you cannot justify a KIND character siding with slave traders(Except ig if we side with them and then betray them or smt but that doesnt happen so my point stands).So not only is the personality characteristic as a whole nearly redundant it also doesnt affect what choices i can make(which in theory should but i suppose? it hurts players freedom of choice and whatnot but it remains inconsistent so im split on it).

Now tbh i havent rlly paid much attention to the writing of the game since i only played for the smut(kek) but after it either "finishes" or some interesting patch drops ill replay it and read everything with max attention just to know how bad the situation is.Cause who knows one of these days i may be bored and go play devils advocate with these fuckers about how their "story" doesnt make fucking sense
 
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roupe said:
So does anyone know what's the best way to sell ur stuff in early and late game? I mean to sell the equipment you get from the first mission and some other items.. I wanna sell them because they are quite useless and will only take space however I can't find a vendor that will not offer 1/5 of the price for it.. (early game like tutorial to second probe)
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Early game? Not really. However, if you're getting close to 2nd probe, then
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Warphorror said:
My reactions were about generic writing and what one should expect from payed writers, I'm the first to agree it doesn't always apply to this game or CoC, I felt that your points were presented in a very generic way so I reacted as such.
Regarding harem members sleeping around, my compromise is that I tolerate if it happen with character the mc fucks too or if they are present and the choice to avoid it is given to the player. From my opinion Urta x Amily was not a problem compared to Anno or Cait that sleep around with anyone.
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Understandable, but what I did was make points that are generally speaking true when looking at the type and quality of writing for specifically TiTS and CoC 2 (CoC 1, while flawed, did actually do better in that regard as far as earlier content is concerned, characters had more varied interactions and more of an actual part in the story as a whole, albeit not necessarily directly in your quest to fight Lethice) and wouldn't apply if the reasons (lack of dynamic interactions etc.) I mentioned aren't at play.
I'm sorry if my expression was that confusing!
 
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