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Warphorror

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Man I haven't played as a Kineticist since...a long ass while, can't remember when exactly, only remember they were fun but under-powered, any Kineticist expert here can tell me if it's been buffed enough as of last update?

I see a bunch of special skills buffed and now I'm wondering if I should start a Kineticist run (P.S: Any advice in how to make a Kineticist be appreciated)
Even when it was underpowered it was still enjoyable enough just some fight a little longer than the one shot classes. I probably don't play an optimized character but here some advices : at low level freeze + melee atack concussive (kinecitist staff) is good enough for everything, later if something resist to pure physical damage thermal sunder will solve it. On the few groups enemy gravity crush is good either they lost a turn to stand up or they stay tripped and vulnerable to an auto crit from geothermal spike. Basically try to synergize the powers usage and things will die quickly enough.
 
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PrototypeMan

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Man I haven't played as a Kineticist since...a long ass while, can't remember when exactly, only remember they were fun but under-powered, any Kineticist expert here can tell me if it's been buffed enough as of last update?

I see a bunch of special skills buffed and now I'm wondering if I should start a Kineticist run (P.S: Any advice in how to make a Kineticist be appreciated)
Kineticist is about "More HP, more Defense (works only against HP damage you`ll get), more AoE"

You can try to work around shields, getting 2-13 shield regen per turn, or focusing on casting strong spells to each enemy for combo, but ... not worth.

What is buffed for "classic Kineticist":
1) Force Darts now shoots an addition dart at level 6 and level 12 - good for stunlocking enemy with"Deep Impact" by criting
2) Debris Field (AoE) lasts now 6 rounds (up from 3) - x2 more AoE
3) Thermal Sunder and Kinetic Burst both got a little more level-based scaling and some extra damage bumps at level 6 and 8 - good to have something that "hit harder" against enemies with Kinetic resistance (Thermal Sunder)
4) Gravity Crush buffed: base damage increased from 5->40, reduced level scaling from 5->3, and increased willpower scaling from 2.5->4 - Deep Freeze + Big Kinetic Strikes always be a signature move and getting higher numbers on that is always a "thumbs up".

What i like to use myself as "Thanos Kineticist":

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NODOGAN

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Kineticist is about "More HP, more Defense (works only against HP damage you`ll get), more AoE"

You can try to work around shields, getting 2-13 shield regen per turn, or focusing on casting strong spells to each enemy for combo, but ... not worth.

What is buffed for "classic Kineticist":
1) Force Darts now shoots an addition dart at level 6 and level 12 - good for stunlocking enemy with"Deep Impact" by criting
2) Debris Field (AoE) lasts now 6 rounds (up from 3) - x2 more AoE
3) Thermal Sunder and Kinetic Burst both got a little more level-based scaling and some extra damage bumps at level 6 and 8 - good to have something that "hit harder" against enemies with Kinetic resistance (Thermal Sunder)
4) Gravity Crush buffed: base damage increased from 5->40, reduced level scaling from 5->3, and increased willpower scaling from 2.5->4 - Deep Freeze + Big Kinetic Strikes always be a signature move and getting higher numbers on that is always a "thumbs up".

What i like to use myself as "Thanos Kineticist":

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Wait, so you don't use any of them Staff/That unique Kineticist accesory booster? also holy shit that Nuke!
 

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whats the most broken you have been in game? Cheated stats are including.

I forget what my tech specialist setup was but I was able to reach 5000 damage per attack.
 
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There was Suze but honestly her relationship is uhh, kinda weird?

The whole thing is based on a lie and you can't say your identity else she won't bang you and have a relationship, which is odd because at least 7 people (Luca, Kally, Kiro, Sylvie, Del, Kaede) know who we are and aren't nowhere near as bothered, and there's no real pay-off for this entire lie and it's kinda just.... forgotten.

You also can't have a bigger dick than her because she doesn't like that when most characters don't give a fuck and others go "ohh you have bigger dick but you like being a bitch huhh", in some instances it almost feels an "all take but no give" and it doesn't help that Canadia has a rather suprising ammount of characters you can bang (or get fucked by) with some being more like relationships or friends with benefits, or baby mommas/daddies (mainly Luca, Sylvie, Kally, and Kaede).

I feel like Suze was a general miss overall imo.
Agreed, was kinda hyped to get to her and was left disappointed as always. She has to have a gimmick, she has to be a dickgirl, and if you don't go along with it then no Suze for you.
 

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There was Suze but honestly her relationship is uhh, kinda weird?

The whole thing is based on a lie and you can't say your identity else she won't bang you and have a relationship, which is odd because at least 7 people (Luca, Kally, Kiro, Sylvie, Del, Kaede) know who we are and aren't nowhere near as bothered, and there's no real pay-off for this entire lie and it's kinda just.... forgotten.

You also can't have a bigger dick than her because she doesn't like that when most characters don't give a fuck and others go "ohh you have bigger dick but you like being a bitch huhh", in some instances it almost feels an "all take but no give" and it doesn't help that Canadia has a rather suprising ammount of characters you can bang (or get fucked by) with some being more like relationships or friends with benefits, or baby mommas/daddies (mainly Luca, Sylvie, Kally, and Kaede).

I feel like Suze was a general miss overall imo.
You can have sex with her if your dick is smaller than her without having to take the pill that make it disappear? Last time I tried, just when she was released, my herm still had to take the pill. I just decided to load a save where I haven't even interacted with her and completely ignore her.
 
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PrototypeMan

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Wait, so you don't use any of them Staff/That unique Kineticist accesory booster? also holy shit that Nuke!
None of them is good enough to equip. Staffs are giving only +1 to damage per Kinetic lvl, when we can get Nova Rifle with 18 damage from Anno quest on second planet - good damage until MC will get 6th lvl, accesory is useful in one scenario - "energy regen", that can be recovered by using Psychogenetic Vim + the last updates boosted "energy regen" when MC are close to 0, up to 500% on 0.
 
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NODOGAN

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None of them is good enough to equip. Staffs are giving only +1 to damage per Kinetic lvl, when we can get Nova Rifle with 18 damage from Anno quest on second planet - good damage until MC will get 6th lvl, accesory is useful in one scenario - "energy regen", that can be recovered by using Psychogenetic Vim + the last updates boosted "energy regen" when MC are close to 0, up to 500% on 0.
Huh, so is all Special Skills with Kineticists?
Also gotta ask, is good to equip only defensive weapons and do all your damage via skills then? such as Trick Bracers+Warden Shield.

Or you suggest having an actual weapon in the melee/ranged slot?
 

PrototypeMan

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Huh, so is all Special Skills with Kineticists?
Also gotta ask, is good to equip only defensive weapons and do all your damage via skills then? such as Trick Bracers+Warden Shield.

Or you suggest having an actual weapon in the melee/ranged slot?
Special Skills + Special Abilities. Mostly used: Debris Field + Entropy Waves - after 1st turn, they`ll outdamage most basic skills on higher lvls (on lower lvls enemy have enough Defense to resist small AoE damage each turn).

Trick Bracers + Warden Shield - good choice, if you are ready to activate "Deep Freeze" debuff only with Gravity Crush with "4 turn CD". "Actual Weapon" is not worth to choose - if you are spamming AoE and "Deep Freeze + Gravity Crush" combo, you just don`t have time to attack, and if you are still want to attack - better use bare fists (that`s the reason why Warden Shield aren`t used by my character), because MC with 13 lvl and 70 Will are hitting with Force for 44 Kinetic Damage (4 + (level + will)/2)
 

jfmherokiller

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does anyone have the good stats for that police horse at the space bar? I never could figure out the right penis size.
 
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Agreed, was kinda hyped to get to her and was left disappointed as always. She has to have a gimmick, she has to be a dickgirl, and if you don't go along with it then no Suze for you.
Yup.

Suze's issue is that she is very much gimmicky, there is nothing more to her outside of "I am a dommy dick girl" she has some depth yes but i'd argue Luca which is roughly 3 tiles away from her gives a better experience and is much less restrictive.

Suze is interesting but the truth is that nothing is truly done with her, she is restrictive but it's personally hard to argue to actually go through her content, which is very ironic considering Nonesuch stated she would be less restrictive if she became crew.

But honestly why make her restrictive in first place if you plan to remove said restriction down the line? Ramis didn't receive such treatment
 

jfmherokiller

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can can anyone explain to me the bird things and the whole "flork" thing. I never cared much about them to look deeply into it.
 

NODOGAN

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whats the most broken you have been in game? Cheated stats are including.

I forget what my tech specialist setup was but I was able to reach 5000 damage per attack.
Not really cheating but a funny item interaction I found if you equip a Smuggler with the Custom Shock Gear, the Tail Implant and Siegwulfe combat mode:
-Custom Shock Gear has a chance to stun an enemy upon hitting them (once their shields are down)
-Sneak Attack grants you extra damage whenever you hit a blinded or STUNNED enemy
-Twist the Knife makes it so any enemy you hit with a Sneak Attack bleeds for 50% of the damage dealt, this bleed can stack on the same turn.
-Cyborg Tail and Siegwulfe SOMEHOW also benefit from your melee perks, so BOTH of them gain Sneak Attack & Twist the Knife if you got them.

All of this combined made my Melee Smuggler deal anywhere between 500 to 800 damage with a "normal melee attack" as basically they, their metal tail and Siegwulfe were all proccing 4 Sneak Attacks and 4 Bleeds on each combat round after his 2 melee hits.
 
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NODOGAN

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Is Gray Goo/Nova armor one of the best armors? Haven't used it ever, now realized it could be upgraded a bunch of times for different things and gotta say...not bad! feels cool to see the living armor grow stronger next to the MC.

Also gotta say while Kineticist was fun now I feel like trying a less complex class, is Mercenary still the simplest of them all? Remember I used to get Cleave, Giant Slayer & Lunge and just play on automatic hitting everything with normal hits lol.
 
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jfmherokiller

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Is Gray Goo/Nova armor one of the best armors? Haven't used it ever, now realized it could be upgraded a bunch of times for different things and gotta say...not bad! feels cool to see the living armor grow stronger next to the MC.

Also gotta say while Kineticist was fun now I feel like trying a less complex class, is Mercenary still the simplest of them all? Remember I used to get Cleave, Giant Slayer & Lunge and just play on automatic hitting everything with normal hits lol.
from experience as a tech specialist (I dont have expirence with other classes) grey goo isnt to bad but you really need to put the work in to get all the unlocked states. Some armors do have better stats then it but if you want a kind of swiss army knife type of armor (it can even gain a helmet) its pretty good. However if you wish to unlock and fully upgrade it, it must be in your inventory for a lot of the story and sidequests.

However, some armor types will decrease your general armor rating.

TLDR: if you want living armor that can do many things its good, however, its stats cant really outclass just having diffrent sets of armor in your inventory.
 

NODOGAN

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from experience as a tech specialist (I dont have expirence with other classes) grey goo isnt to bad but you really need to put the work in to get all the unlocked states. Some armors do have better stats then it but if you want a kind of swiss army knife type of armor (it can even gain a helmet) its pretty good. However if you wish to unlock and fully upgrade it, it must be in your inventory for a lot of the story and sidequests.

However, some armor types will decrease your general armor rating.

TLDR: if you want living armor that can do many things its good, however, its stats cant really outclass just having diffrent sets of armor in your inventory.
I see, guess Pump King's Platemail still the best armor for Mercenary then? that 14 defense, +40 shield and 40% resistance to electricity is pretty sexy.
 

jfmherokiller

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I see, guess Pump King's Platemail still the best armor for Mercenary then? that 14 defense, +40 shield and 40% resistance to electricity is pretty sexy.
ooo that sounds good, for me I know I regularly grab one of the air tight armors. It helps alot both early and later on.
 
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