Others Trials in Tainted Space [v0.9.127] [Fenoxo]

[RemiliaScarlett]

You don't have to humiliate her and turn her into a sub. When you first have sex with her, she asks if you like her dick, if you say yes, she keeps it later, if you say no she gets rid of it.

I was talking about sera who you have to humiliate/sub to remove her dick (you ask the slavers to remove her dick when you buy her).

anyways the thing I was saying about the issue with commissions before some people came to cry, was that while it makes them money it wont make a good game.
If you want to make a good game you have to put player experience first, but in the case of these games it's commissions first so you have an amalgamation of different people's work and stuff that have such variance in quality and quantity of content it's mindblowing (and that's how you end with decent characters that get shelved because the commissioner is MIA or doesn't want to spend more)

Reminds me of when I was playing Pathfinder Kingmaker and noticed that there were a couple of really annoying quests that felt weird and then later learned that those were quests designed by backers with their OCs ...

with the commission model while they will make money it will turn from a game into a circlejerk of content that's getting more and more weird and lazy while failing to have any sort of continuity or overarching story. already has actually but it will get worse (I mean notice how main story progression has been dead for a few years)

Fuck, that would've been preferrable, post more ideas because that one is interesting

well talking about fallout they could have brought back that scorpion race from the chess dude and have a mutated scorpion person with aphrodisiac stinger (aka radscorpion). Or a 2 headed character or characters with uneven number of limbs/ extra growth or unbalanced body (like Huge right arm that is taller than the person, and small left arm, maybe 2 small left arms and a couple tentacles, idk they have total freedom to make weird mutated creatures for this current biome but they wont). Tbh nothing really gave the "radioactive wasteland" vibe that much, a bit mad max maybe but that's as far as they went

but I don't think they would do these anyways because making a 3 armed (for instance) character that looks good would take more work than pump another basic bust. the way they are currently pumping their content they wont try to make anything interesting

 

[_Metamorphosis_]

Question, what yall think about the Rival Jack/Jill?


Personally I strongly believe that you could remove them and absolutely nothing would change, like they are hardly in-game when they are supposed to be your rivals lol, nor do they have any personality.

Luca's conversation makes them slightly more interesting but that's completely optional and not even really related to them, also Jill is way hotter than Jack imo.

 

[_Metamorphosis_]

Also, unrelated but Ara Kei new art by FubMistress looks fucking great. mommy

Almost worth it to get addicted to Bothrioc Oil for the rest of my life, almost.

 

[claralover]

Also, unrelated but Ara Kei new art looks fucking great. mommy
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Almost worth it to get addicted to Bothrioc Oil for the rest of my life, almost.

you sure that's new?

 

[_Metamorphosis_]

you sure that's new?

I haven't touched Myrellion in quite a while so I thought it was new, must have had a Internet Explorer moment here lmao.

 

[RemiliaScarlett]

I haven't touched Myrellion in quite a while so I thought it was new, must have had a Internet Explorer moment here lmao.

that's old AF I always had that one so I was surprised by the wiki using the other one xD

Question, what yall think about the Rival Jack/Jill?
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Personally I strongly believe that you could remove them and absolutely nothing would change, like they are hardly in-game when they are supposed to be your rivals lol, nor do they have any personality.

Luca's conversation makes them slightly more interesting but that's completely optional and not even really related to them, also Jill is way hotter than Jack imo.

anyway jack/jill are not really interesting, the light changes they got (tail) isnt much to talk about, heck I interacted more with the nameless rusher (that keeps getting more and more tainted) than with them (and I really want art for that rusher, no idea why they dont have any)

tbh it would have been MUCH better if your choices/actions would affect jack/jill

tbh I think they should probably be like the nameless rusher and have random encounters all over while the probe is still on the planet

here how I would have done it :

while the probe is on the planet you can encounter them as random hostile encounter, if you have good standing with them you can end encounter pacifically if you have hostile standing then combat is inevitable (you start with hostile I guess)
During the "finale" of each probe quest you have a guaranteed encounter against them that is harder (they brought more goons more weapons, prepared a trap etc) and usually including some of the species of the planet (or like in myrellion they are captured and you can help them out)
If you win you can "spare/save" them (increase their standing with you and you probably get lesser reward I guess) but if you don't they get ravaged by the locals and it increases their taint and hostility which means on next planet they will be stronger have new abilities and combat will be harder (but you will enjoy seeing their new tainted form) and you can compound this.

now the issue is that the devs for some reason don't use a layer system for the art (using PNGs to make paperdolls with swapable elements, like you have a series of pictures with the face, the main body arms legs boobs etc and you can swap them around, lot of games use this wether it is for expressions or transformation content, but here if a character can have 3 different dicks you have 3 different pictures, if that character can have 3 different pictures, I mean look at giana there are so many pictures for each of the bust/hips combos when you should have 1 body picture and boob/ass/dick layers to swap around). A game I can name out the top of my head that uses this is parasite infection and it's a simple html game, so really there is no reason for them not to use this system except being lazy. There is also artifact which is using electron

 

[jfmherokiller]

Question, what yall think about the Rival Jack/Jill?
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Personally I strongly believe that you could remove them and absolutely nothing would change, like they are hardly in-game when they are supposed to be your rivals lol, nor do they have any personality.

Luca's conversation makes them slightly more interesting but that's completely optional and not even really related to them, also Jill is way hotter than Jack imo.

for me i prefer jack but thats because im gay, tho i do wish he was more masc defined. He looks more "inbetween" then standard male.

 

[mcmng]

Question, what yall think about the Rival Jack/Jill?
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Personally I strongly believe that you could remove them and absolutely nothing would change, like they are hardly in-game when they are supposed to be your rivals lol, nor do they have any personality.

Luca's conversation makes them slightly more interesting but that's completely optional and not even really related to them, also Jill is way hotter than Jack imo.

There isn't anything to comment about, they even have less screen time than the two mercenaries they hired throughout the story. I'm Still sad the devs postponed the option to romance them indefinitely, though.

Between the two I always choose Jill over Jack.



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On an unrelated note, that's a prime example of actual good Adjatha art, lol.

 

[bensal]

Question, what yall think about the Rival Jack/Jill?
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Personally I strongly believe that you could remove them and absolutely nothing would change, like they are hardly in-game when they are supposed to be your rivals lol, nor do they have any personality.

Luca's conversation makes them slightly more interesting but that's completely optional and not even really related to them, also Jill is way hotter than Jack imo.

I for one believe that they are pointless, and with the current development team and "vision" they will always remain pointless.
This i because of their whole aversion to incest, their rivalry storyline has to end in a binary option of whether or not to fuck them.

Also to actually answer to original question, I was going to say Jill but seeing them side by side it looks to me that its just the same base and they "femmed" jack to make jill, so now it just feels like the jill design was an afterthought.
Though thinking of it now your rivals being twins with a theme naming, now that's an idea there.

 

[Yeppers34]

Question, what yall think about the Rival Jack/Jill?
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Personally I strongly believe that you could remove them and absolutely nothing would change, like they are hardly in-game when they are supposed to be your rivals lol, nor do they have any personality.

Luca's conversation makes them slightly more interesting but that's completely optional and not even really related to them, also Jill is way hotter than Jack imo.

You would think they would do more with the apparent antagonist of the game but they're barely in the game, and apparently the incest route was shelved for them which is weird because it kinda felt that was the route. if I recall correctly if you loose the fight to queen taivra you can keep her as a slave in the game over screen so not sure why they're so scared of incest in the game

 

[Granberia]

Question, what yall think about the Rival Jack/Jill?

I've never seen Jack before. He just straight up looks like a girl. Like, not even a femboy, just a girl. He's definitely taking it up the ass if he ever gets a proper scene. Though I guess it's kind of implied that he does in at least two bad ends.

 

[SirJahar]

it just feels like the jill design was an afterthought.

I always figured that it Jack was a play on "jackass", so... yeah, Jill was probably and afterthought to give the player SOME choices in the early versions.

 

[Lucky_I]

I always figured that it Jack was a play on "jackass", so... yeah, Jill was probably and afterthought to give the player SOME choices in the early versions.

No it's because of "JACKing off" and "JILLing off", as in male and female masturbation.

 

[_Metamorphosis_]

anyway jack/jill are not really interesting, the light changes they got (tail) isnt much to talk about, heck I interacted more with the nameless rusher (that keeps getting more and more tainted) than with them (and I really want art for that rusher, no idea why they dont have any)

I think it doesn't help that ultimately you literally meet them like 6 times.

Let me repeat, your main rival shows up 6 times in the entire game, and it's pretty much only once in those encounters (intro, mhen'ga, tarkus, myrellion, dhaal, phaedra) not counting the repeatable scene where you give them oral in Uveto, they are more of a flat character than fucking Plank from Ed, Edd n Eddy, they are are really non-existent you could remove them from the plot and it would largely remain the same.

FUCK! you could even maybe make Dane be the one going after them, say he was hired by your uncle Maximilian (aka the cousin's father) to go and grab the probes and quits on Myrellion after Taivra incident.

He looks more "inbetween" then standard male.

Also to actually answer to original question, I was going to say Jill but seeing them side by side it looks to me that its just the same base and they "femmed" jack to make jill, so now it just feels like the jill design was an afterthought.
Though thinking of it now your rivals being twins with a theme naming, now that's an idea there.

I disagree and think that Jack is the afterthought and not Jill.

The only diference between the two (outside of breasts) is that Jack has noticeably less hair, he still looks generally more like a twink rather than a dude, additionally his thighs are still rather girly though Jill has more of them.


His chest feels like it was edited down to decrease it, it looks weird if you keep looking at it.

and apparently the incest route was shelved for them which is weird because it kinda felt that was the route. if I recall correctly if you loose the fight to queen taivra you can keep her as a slave in the game over screen so not sure why they're so scared of incest in the game

Shit really? that's pretty dumb lol, i think it's because Patreon was bit more tight on incest as of recent no? but I think Cousin should still be more than fine, hell they still have their Oral scene in Uveto too!

And yeah Taivra ending makes them be your bedwarmer, Frostwyrm's ending also gives the minor implication of that too (and to show off how you are doing well with your 100 frostwyrm direct and adoptive children with your 3 dragon spouses who adore you)

 

[RemiliaScarlett]

iirc you could have incest with one of the frostwyrm kips but they removed it and turned the kip into a random encounter or something like that.

kinda weird we still can bang the half sister (maybe they rationalized it saying you sex the cuntsnake and not her)

 

[_Metamorphosis_]

iirc you could have incest with one of the frostwyrm kips but they removed it and turned the kip into a random encounter or something like that.

Yeah Nykke, she became the Half-breed Frostwyrm you encounter on the coast *AFTER* you mate with Valyrnn and have kids with her, but before that change she was your eldest daughter.

I have not played when Nykke was still our offspring but personally I like her being a half-breed more imo, it makes her relationship with the Frostwyrms rather interesting.

 

[arcader000]

Question, what yall think about the Rival Jack/Jill?
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Personally I strongly believe that you could remove them and absolutely nothing would change, like they are hardly in-game when they are supposed to be your rivals lol, nor do they have any personality.

Luca's conversation makes them slightly more interesting but that's completely optional and not even really related to them, also Jill is way hotter than Jack imo.

Feel like that's the intent no? Bumbling incompetent rich kid whose only threat they pose is the hired gun they have.

iirc you could have incest with one of the frostwyrm kips but they removed it and turned the kip into a random encounter or something like that.

kinda weird we still can bang the half sister (maybe they rationalized it saying you sex the cuntsnake and not her)

There's the patreon issue but I think fen's gone record saying becoming a father made him more squicked out by daughter incest. There is a power scaling when it comes to incest stuff tbh, half sister on the very low end just above step sister.

 

[RemiliaScarlett]

Feel like that's the intent no? Bumbling incompetent rich kid whose only threat they pose is the hired gun they have.


There's the patreon issue but I think fen's gone record saying becoming a father made him more squicked out by daughter incest. There is a power scaling when it comes to incest stuff tbh, half sister on the very low end just above step sister.

yeah but cousin would be even farther than step/half sister.

Plus genetics are barely an issue in a world like that (I mean with all those genemods I would guess consanguinity would be erased pretty easily) so it becomes mostly an issue of grooming and weird relationship like that.

 

[pistachio0101]

Just downloaded this game and I'm having a weird problem where some option menus cause the game to crash, notably the style and display menus. Anyone else have this problem or a fix? Thanks!

 

[Sasquatch421]

Just downloaded this game and I'm having a weird problem where some option menus cause the game to crash, notably the style and display menus. Anyone else have this problem or a fix? Thanks!

Took a quick glance at their forums and it "should" be fixed in the upcoming version. Whenever they decide to drop it...