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zszszszs32 said:
I lost my save from a year ago and it would be tedious to replay up to that point. I don't have Windows so I can't save edit. A bit presumptive to tell me how to enjoy a porn game.
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Fair point, didn't consider that. My apologies.
I figured you were just looking for a shortcut to see all the content currently in the game, which was a flawed assumption.

Do you remember approximately which part of the main quest you had reached before losing your save?

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I do want to point out, regarding save editing: it doesn't matter whether you're on Windows or not; the cheats I linked above are built into the game itself. You can blitz through the available main quest content very fast if you make proper use of the available cheats.
Save editing for that purpose would be much riskier because you'd have to set many different flags to fake a "mostly complete" gamestate, and it might lead to scene continuity issues if you missed anything. I definitely wouldn't recommend it.
 
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use the save editor only if u know what u are doing. the cheats are good enough if no editor is at hand. exept u want 1000 feet long dong or so. u can use a virtual machine too if u save to file then u can import it into the editor.

OOT: do somebody know what the replacement of flash will be? i wonder. not for this game i mean in general.
 
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longsdale said:
use the save editor only if u know what u are doing. the cheats are good enough if no editor is at hand. exept u want 1000 feet long dong or so. u can use a virtual machine too if u save to file then u can import it into the editor.

OOT: do somebody know what the replacement of flash will be? i wonder. not for this game i mean in general.
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There are many replacements for Flash. There's Javascript, HTML5, various other engines that people could build their games in or around. People have had choices for quite a while.
 
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Why is the version in this thread so far behind? The last public release was 0.8.119 while the thread is only hosting 0.8.106.
 
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imercenary95 said:
If the project was 100% free, no one would give a shit but the project is bankrolled by a $30000 a month Patreon and people expect more when that much money money gets thrown around.
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Which is, frankly, ridiculous, considering that a lot of that money goes into things like:

1) Commissioning artists, with the standard rate for commissioning a piece of artwork depicting one character being--usually-- anywhere between 10-25$ an hour, or more.

2) Commissioning writers, with the standard rate being .10-1$ per word. (Keeping in mind, as well, that the last major update to TiTs by a freelancer included a submission that was over 200+ pages long, and if you look at submissions for characters by themselves, you're seeing somewhere between 20k to 30k words, minimum.)

3) Paying people to code the game, which idk a standard rate for but--looking at point 3--we're talking at paying people to go through documents that, minimum, are often 50+ pages in length.

And, 4) Paying his team and freelancers hired to help with the game's development.

Like, TiTs is not just "a game made by Fenoxo + people who contribute content to the game,". There is a core team + a handful of trusted freelancers that work on both games, and 30k a month split between--that I know of--at least three-to-four dedicated employees + a rotating group of freelancers is not going to go as far as y'all think.
 
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epidemico said:
Which is, frankly, ridiculous, considering that a lot of that money goes into things like:

1) Commissioning artists, with the standard rate for commissioning a piece of artwork depicting one character being--usually-- anywhere between 10-25$ an hour, or more.

2) Commissioning writers, with the standard rate being .10-1$ per word. (Keeping in mind, as well, that the last major update to TiTs by a freelancer included a submission that was over 200+ pages long, and if you look at submissions for characters by themselves, you're seeing somewhere between 20k to 30k words, minimum.)

3) Paying people to code the game, which idk a standard rate for but--looking at point 3--we're talking at paying people to go through documents that, minimum, are often 50+ pages in length.

And, 4) Paying his team and freelancers hired to help with the game's development.

Like, TiTs is not just "a game made by Fenoxo + people who contribute content to the game,". There is a core team + a handful of trusted freelancers that work on both games, and 30k a month split between--that I know of--at least three-to-four dedicated employees + a rotating group of freelancers is not going to go as far as y'all think.
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Dude, I'm sure like everyone else in the thread, you don't know anymore than anyone else on how that money is split up...

1. No artist charges for commissions by the hour. That's a surefire way to fuck people for money. Most, if not all artists, have flat prices for pieces.

2. You got this from reading translated doujins I'm sure, because I couldn't see anyone telling someone that they charge 0.10-$1 PER WORD, unless it's a doujin translation circle. That's the only place I've ever seen something like that before. Also, that Major update with 200+ page entry was done by someone in the forums, that's not freelancer work as I'm sure they probably didn't get paid for it. That was a fan submission.

3. It's not like they need a comprehensive team of people to code this game. It's a text based game, they're not making No Man's Sky. Most of the people who code the game include Upcast, Fen, Drunk Zombie, and Gedan (But I don't know what they have been crediting with as of late because it seems like they don't do anything but manage the Codebase at this point). Fen is usually the one who reads through the submissions in the first place so they don't even have to comb through it. All the coders do is add the descriptors for [CockThis] and [VagThat] and whatever else that pertains to the character and scenes being added.

4. This one is pointless to be here because everything from 1-3 already covers this...
 
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epidemico said:
2) Commissioning writers, with the standard rate being .10-1$ per word. (Keeping in mind, as well, that the last major update to TiTs by a freelancer included a submission that was over 200+ pages long, and if you look at submissions for characters by themselves, you're seeing somewhere between 20k to 30k words, minimum.)
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Fenoxo once talked about how hard it was to commission people to write certain things for his game. He states that people would just much rather write a character with their own fetishes for free, than write some other character for money. The vast majority of freelance writing for TITS is covered by private commissions, or funded by the respective writers own patreon. A good majority of the stuff in TITS wasn't even funded by Fenoxo's patreon, but by a third party.
 
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Megumin. said:
I thought that Fen wouldn't get political on his blog and leave that stuff for twitter but that new blog post is telling people to vote... :rolleyes:
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It's almost like one side in particular is really panicky about how this election is gonna go, so they're just going as deep as they can. Don't worry though, it'll be over soon enough. :D
 
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Bloep said:
Fenoxo once talked about how hard it was to commission people to write certain things for his game. He states that people would just much rather write a character with their own fetishes for free, than write some other character for money. The vast majority of freelance writing for TITS is covered by private commissions, or funded by the respective writers own patreon. A good majority of the stuff in TITS wasn't even funded by Fenoxo's patreon, but by a third party.
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And when those writers disappeared, or pulled their projects, is when the backlog started. And why the writing for the game is so scattershot in places in terms of events and NPCs--everyone wanted to get their super special snowflake NPC in the game at the start of TiTs, but few wanted to see these projects as things they'd need to continue contributing to, so when they left there was no one left to take over. It's only been in like the past handful of months that Fenoxo re-opened submissions, and even then it was only for established characters, because their backlog of "things to fix," got so long. (Fenoxo was also going through a divorce, iirc, when a lot of the bitching about content started and people started leaving. He's able to work full-time on TiTs through patreon, but I'm pretty sure--like you mentioned--other prolific writers aren't in the same boat.)

As someone who writes for a living, as well, I want to also try and make it apparent how hard it is to even be creative when you suffer from depression. Everyone thought at the beginning of the pandemic that this would be prime time to get shit like novels and projects done... but then we all quickly figured out just how difficult it is to write when you feel like your entire life is a shitshow and the world might end tomorrow.
 
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The backlog has been a thing for years, it didn't just start because of people who once wrote for the the game just left. Part of the reason those people left was because of the backlog and how long it took for Fen to get through it to read, judge, and have stuff added to the game. Most of the reason why the game's direction is so scattered is because Fen used the backlog as a reason for stifling the progress of the game. Instead of continuing the plot and story, he would open submissions, let them pile up, and then spend the next few months reading over the shit instead of doing anything else, and why would he? Why would you progress your game, when you could spend 2-3 month reading a 200 page submission that does nothing for the overall story? Why would you progress anything when you could just add people's one-off characters and various other one-time encounters, and ultimately put out less content then you did 5 years ago when your collective will give you 30k every month?


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As someone who writes for a living, as well, I want to also try and make it apparent how hard it is to even be creative when you suffer from depression.
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As for this, well, it's a good thing that most of the content that goes into his own game isn't written by Fen, otherwise we probably wouldn't even be THIS far...
 
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