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James3

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What's the best way to ask them why you autofuck certain characters out of the blue, though? I want the screencap of my ban to look as unreasonable of them as possible.
 

domacleod

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What's the best way to ask them why you autofuck certain characters out of the blue, though? I want the screencap of my ban to look as unreasonable of them as possible.
"Is it intended that you automatically engage in sex with <x> when talking to them or am i doing something wrong? If it is intended, is there a story reason for it?"

Just ask.. reasonably, I guess?
 

moohoo

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I remember playing up to the snow planet and up to the point where Fenoxo or Savin or whoever nuked/retconed the Ice Dragon Girl content cuz she could possibly be your daughter or something and incest is was too far but fucking every man/woman/animal in space is normal.
Thats because Patreon might pull the funding if you have incest. There used to be more incest that they cut.
 
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Layfon

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Thats because Patreon might pull the funding if you have incest. There used to be more incest that they cut.
Na I know that, it isn't good for business. But when I still went on the forums I remember Fenoxo, Savin, all the writers who stayed, they all didn't just say, "No incest, the money will disappear if we do it.". They got weirdly defensive about it and talked about it like it was the worst fetish imaginable and ruins the game by having it.

Like I vaguely remember Savin's game, CoC2, having backstory/lore on one of the salamander-girls descendants from CoC talking about how their great-grandmother realized she was being groomed and was almost "raped" by her father and then they go into just saying how disgusting incest is. It was either in the game or on a forum post but I do remember that being the canon end to the open-ended salamander quest in CoC.

Nothing wrong with no incest in the game from a financial standpoint, but you can't throw stones in a glass house and call it icky when the games are like 99% populated by furry futas.
 

GokutheG

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Na I know that, it isn't good for business. But when I still went on the forums I remember Fenoxo, Savin, all the writers who stayed, they all didn't just say, "No incest, the money will disappear if we do it.". They got weirdly defensive about it and talked about it like it was the worst fetish imaginable and ruins the game by having it.

Like I vaguely remember Savin's game, CoC2, having backstory/lore on one of the salamander-girls descendants from CoC talking about how their great-grandmother realized she was being groomed and was almost "raped" by her father and then they go into just saying how disgusting incest is. It was either in the game or on a forum post but I do remember that being the canon end to the open-ended salamander quest in CoC.

Nothing wrong with no incest in the game from a financial standpoint, but you can't throw stones in a glass house and call it icky when the games are like 99% populated by furry futas.
From what I remember Fen isn't a fan of incest but he didn't ban it. After he had a kid he developed a dislike of incest(particularly parent/ child) so even if Patreon wasn't a factor it's something he doesn't want.
 

GoGoGorilla

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Na I know that, it isn't good for business. But when I still went on the forums I remember Fenoxo, Savin, all the writers who stayed, they all didn't just say, "No incest, the money will disappear if we do it.". They got weirdly defensive about it and talked about it like it was the worst fetish imaginable and ruins the game by having it.

Like I vaguely remember Savin's game, CoC2, having backstory/lore on one of the salamander-girls descendants from CoC talking about how their great-grandmother realized she was being groomed and was almost "raped" by her father and then they go into just saying how disgusting incest is. It was either in the game or on a forum post but I do remember that being the canon end to the open-ended salamander quest in CoC.

Nothing wrong with no incest in the game from a financial standpoint, but you can't throw stones in a glass house and call it icky when the games are like 99% populated by furry futas.
That was Fall of Eden, and it was written as the Salamander girl(Helia)'s daughter being the one. So they basically said the PC of CoC was a creepy rapist because people wanted the incest route.
 

Layfon

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That was Fall of Eden, and it was written as the Salamander girl(Helia)'s daughter being the one. So they basically said the PC of CoC was a creepy rapist because people wanted the incest route.
Yeah that sounds about right on the game part, all I remember is that it was a different UI than CoC is all I remember. But I'm pretty sure Savin pretty much agreed with that on the forums and said that was the defacto canon ending for Helia/Helspawn content since there would never be any more content added to it.

I also remember that "technically" anyone could write content for Helspawn, since he graciously allowed people too /s, but it would be stonewalled upon submittion because of the cop out of it not reaching Savins "level of writing". Which was weird to even pretend that they'd allow any content being added when everyone knew it was cause of the incest purge on Patreon. They were just really weird when it came to incest when the understandable response would be, "Yeah can't do incest cause of Patreon. Sucks but it is what it is."

I'm not a "Incest or nothing" guy, CoC/TiTS was never centered around incest. It was like at most 5-10% of the games in terms of content. The constant burn out of every single new NPC being a furry futa is what made the game fall off IMO, and the seeming disdain of incest amongst most of the staff/writers again seemed like someone throwing rocks in a glass house considering the game and all.
 

TerreCrimson

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Na I know that, it isn't good for business. But when I still went on the forums I remember Fenoxo, Savin, all the writers who stayed, they all didn't just say, "No incest, the money will disappear if we do it.". They got weirdly defensive about it and talked about it like it was the worst fetish imaginable and ruins the game by having it.

Like I vaguely remember Savin's game, CoC2, having backstory/lore on one of the salamander-girls descendants from CoC talking about how their great-grandmother realized she was being groomed and was almost "raped" by her father and then they go into just saying how disgusting incest is. It was either in the game or on a forum post but I do remember that being the canon end to the open-ended salamander quest in CoC.

Nothing wrong with no incest in the game from a financial standpoint, but you can't throw stones in a glass house and call it icky when the games are like 99% populated by furry futas.
I've seen Patreon stalk artists' other works and ban them for content that went against their ToS even when said content wasn't posted on their site. They (besides Fen who seems to really not like it anymore) might just be covering their asses.
 

GoGoGorilla

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Yeah that sounds about right on the game part, all I remember is that it was a different UI than CoC is all I remember. But I'm pretty sure Savin pretty much agreed with that on the forums and said that was the defacto canon ending for Helia/Helspawn content since there would never be any more content added to it.

I also remember that "technically" anyone could write content for Helspawn, since he graciously allowed people too /s, but it would be stonewalled upon submittion because of the cop out of it not reaching Savins "level of writing". Which was weird to even pretend that they'd allow any content being added when everyone knew it was cause of the incest purge on Patreon. They were just really weird when it came to incest when the understandable response would be, "Yeah can't do incest cause of Patreon. Sucks but it is what it is."

I'm not a "Incest or nothing" guy, CoC/TiTS was never centered around incest. It was like at most 5-10% of the games in terms of content. The constant burn out of every single new NPC being a furry futa is what made the game fall off IMO, and the seeming disdain of incest amongst most of the staff/writers again seemed like someone throwing rocks in a glass house considering the game and all.
IIRC the whole thing was actually written by The Observer, who writes for CoC2. He does the kitsune stuff, and did the whole kitsune plot line to basically set his own self insert OCs up with the PC's aged up child(Kinu). Dude commissions loads of art of Kinu and goes out of his way to make her as sexy as he can, seemingly out of spite.

It's honestly very weird.
 
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whenever i click this it redirects me to an empty folder, same thing with the last link, does other people have the same issue? i'm assuming it's not everyone since a lot of peeps seem to upvoted this, but im just confused as to why this is happening?
 

James3

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"Is it intended that you automatically engage in sex with <x> when talking to them or am i doing something wrong? If it is intended, is there a story reason for it?"

Just ask.. reasonably, I guess?
I don't want them thinking it looks ok or that they have an excuse for it to, either. This is very pushy bull-shit and they know it. Their excuses so far have been the illest logic.
 

YouShallNotLol

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I don't want them thinking it looks ok or that they have an excuse for it to, either. This is very pushy bull-shit and they know it. Their excuses so far have been the illest logic.
Push back and fight them (the devs). This exact thing already happened in the past.
Doctor Badger (literally some noname's fursona) had unavoidably rape and forcefully transform the player, if you so much as stumbled into the map tile occupied by her.
No need to say how mad players were over this "Surprise, fuck you!" event, the pushback forced Fen to rewrite the character and include options to avoid and/or turn the tables on Badger.

I swear, those idiots never learn their lessons. :HideThePain:
 

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Adjatha... what the fuck is this? its neither sexy to be attractive or even "ugly" enough to be disgusting
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it just hit me, that Phaedra theme of "radiation mutations" means that Adjatha has a justification for making these fucking abominations and is probably to make more in the future...

HOLY, the character and the art actually looks really nice, i avoided TITS for months bc the devs focus so much on making expanded content or creating new female/futa characters (and that is totally fine, their audience are mostly straight men and man that likes futa, the devs are being paid to create more content for them, so is only natural they focus on expanding female characters etc).

and i am a gay men that really likes horror/body horror and monster men/cock so that character looks so fucking hot, maybe that isn't much up your alley and that's ok! but there are people that liked this update! for my sake, i hope the devs continues making characters like that! <3

(and if my memory serves right, that is actually a female version of this "bird" like enemy with a huge pussy and i didn't see anyone complaining‍♂, i don't remember right, idk if this female enemy is in TITS or COC2, but yeah...)
 
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Maiuw2

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Adjatha... what the fuck is this? its neither sexy to be attractive or even "ugly" enough to be disgusting
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it just hit me, that Phaedra theme of "radiation mutations" means that Adjatha has a justification for making these fucking abominations and is probably to make more in the future...
Have you heard of a game called MGQ, now think late stage MGQ games xD
 
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moohoo

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Patreon also only seems to go after Parent/Child incest and mostly ignore sibling incest. Otherwise Tetra and Mica and that Anno x Syri scene would've been nuked already.
It is literally random whether patreon smashes you for verbotin content. The more money you make the less likely they are to notice for some strange reason.
Like I am p sure that rape is banned, yet if it was enforced, TiTS and CoC2 are basically gone.
 

GermanSoup

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Not the first game that they've intentionally left out a leave option, either.
That's just...bad practice, no? Why intentionally leave out an option like that, other than to piss off your players? If it is just to piss them off...just why??? Are you making a game or not?

...But when I still went on the forums...they got weirdly defensive about it...like it was the worst fetish imaginable and ruins the game by having it.
That honestly almost sounds like something about it was very personal for them all of a sudden? Maybe something happened IRL that changed their perspective on it? But then again...why not just say something vague about it, refuse to elaborate on it further because it's personal, and move on? I mean, it's not like I haven't seen people do the weirdest things just to avoid even elluding to something, but I dunno. This sounds less like that and more like people who aren't well-adjusted socially.

Like I vaguely remember Savin's game, CoC2, having backstory/lore on one of the salamander-girls' descendants...talking about how their great-grandmother realized she was being groomed...and then they go into just saying how disgusting incest is.
Okay, there is a massive difference between incest and literally being groomed. Like those are not one in the same, at all. Not even remotely close. I get if they just don't like incest, but holy hell don't equate it to grooming.

...So they basically said the PC of CoC was a creepy rapist because people wanted the incest route.
Wait...so they made the one ending they apparently hated the canon one? Just so they could dunk on the one routed that they, again, hated?

...Savin pretty much agreed...and said that was the defacto canon ending for Helia/Helspawn content since there would never be any more content added to it.
So yes, they did make the one ending they hated a canon one... On top of that, they tried to copout of it by just refusing to add more content to it. Not change it, or remove it, or anything like that. No, make it a canon ending then claim it's because they won't add more. Makes total, complete sense, and I am not confused at all. lol

I also remember that "technically" anyone could write content for Helspawn...but it would be stonewalled...because of the cop out of it not reaching Savins "level of writing." ...They were just really weird when it came to incest when the understandable response would be "Yeah can't do incest 'cause of Patreon. Sucks but it is what it is."
Okay, even if it didn't reach his "level" of writing, why stonewall it entirely instead of just...rewriting it yourself, if you're really so good at writing? I mean, if you're going to take community submissions for that kind of stuff, you inherently should expect to have to completely rewrite much of what you get if you want any of it to get into the game, no? If that's not what you're doing, I kinda feel like you're just waisting everyone's time...

It's genuinely possible they couldn't even say publically why they had to cut the content, assuming it was because of Patreon's crackdown. But it just sounds like they not only keep coming up with excuses...but also keep changing the excuses? That doesn't seem like it lines up with "We're just doing this because of Patreon" at all.
 
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GokutheG

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It is literally random whether patreon smashes you for verbotin content. The more money you make the less likely they are to notice for some strange reason.
Like I am p sure that rape is banned, yet if it was enforced, TiTS and CoC2 are basically gone.
The combat losses are written in such a way that the mc enjoys whatever abuse is thrown at them so technically there's no rape in the game.
 
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