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indyc

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We need a game just like this but with videos.
Nah, bro, I think I'll pass on a 100+GB game filled with videos.
Yeah space would be a big concern and the engine did not allow for them. If the engine would have allowed for gifs I actually would have SAVED space though! (Not to mention tons of time to insert one picture at a time separated by timers that have to be lag proof...)

I know the game is being actively developed on patreon, but are you expecting to release another version out anytime soon indyc?
For Keystroke yes. For Trials of the Succubi no but only due to the fact of waiting for the new engine to finish or changes to the Milovana servers that would actually allow me to add the newest scenes to the fully playable version. I wouldn't imagine the F95zone community would look too fondly on a disjointed scene previewer outside of the normal game.
 

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For Keystroke yes. For Trials of the Succubi no but only due to the fact of waiting for the new engine to finish or changes to the Milovana servers that would actually allow me to add the newest scenes to the fully playable version. I wouldn't imagine the F95zone community would look too fondly on a disjointed scene previewer outside of the normal game.
Thanks for clarifying! As a past sub to your patreon, how are scenes still being added to the early access build of TOTS? Wouldn't the engine limit the addition of those as well? Not asking maliciously, I'm just curious how that early access build worked when I used to be a sub.
 

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Thanks for clarifying! As a past sub to your patreon, how are scenes still being added to the early access build of TOTS? Wouldn't the engine limit the addition of those as well? Not asking maliciously, I'm just curious how that early access build worked when I used to be a sub.
Sadly right now they aren't being added to the early access build due to the engine limitations. I created a separate early access previewer to view the new stuff and that situation irritates me to no end.
 
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that situation irritates me to no end.
I can imagine that. Especially if you hadn't foreseen something like this when starting out.
For Trials of the Succubi no but only due to the fact of waiting for the new engine to finish or changes to the Milovana servers that would actually allow me to add the newest scenes to the fully playable version.
Do you know what the status of this new engine is? How far along are they? I believe this issue with limitation is going on for some time now, right?
 

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Do you know what the status of this new engine is? How far along are they? I believe this issue with limitation is going on for some time now, right?
The limitation has affected me for at least 2 years now. I had plenty of coding help and other tricks to bypass it for so long but my tricks have met their end.

The last demo of the new engine was nearly a 1:1 with the Milovana experience and just needed a few more phone adjustments. This was going to be as I understand it the "Phase 1" before possible attempts to add more features like save states, control to skip dialog, etc. However, I have not heard from that developer for several months now. When they work on it they are very productive but seem to burn out from time to time which is why I'm assuming there has been no word.

Milovana has hinted that they still plan to do some sizable changes but have not been able to move them forward due to real life events. Usually when the website goes down there is another sprint of work/fixes that can happen but I'm not counting on it any time soon.
 
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Sadly right now they aren't being added to the early access build due to the engine limitations. I created a separate early access previewer to view the new stuff and that situation irritates me to no end.
I see, I can completely understand why that would be annoying. Would you ever consider developing in HTML for your future projects?
 

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The limitation has affected me for at least 2 years now. I had plenty of coding help and other tricks to bypass it for so long but my tricks have met their end.

The last demo of the new engine was nearly a 1:1 with the Milovana experience and just needed a few more phone adjustments. This was going to be as I understand it the "Phase 1" before possible attempts to add more features like save states, control to skip dialog, etc. However, I have not heard from that developer for several months now. When they work on it they are very productive but seem to burn out from time to time which is why I'm assuming there has been no word.

Milovana has hinted that they still plan to do some sizable changes but have not been able to move them forward due to real life events. Usually when the website goes down there is another sprint of work/fixes that can happen but I'm not counting on it any time soon.
Thanks for the reply. Too bad the work and updates on Milovana aren't very reliable, also because there is some great content being made there. In that case, I hope the website goes down ;)
 

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I see, I can completely understand why that would be annoying. Would you ever consider developing in HTML for your future projects?
It's been suggested a few times but honestly, I like the HTML interface even less than Milovana EOS. (I guess because I have no nostalgia for it) I did honestly consider porting to Renpy for a few months and tried to learn the engine a little bit.

However, I decided the amount of work it would require made it not worth it at all and that I would far prefer putting that effort into a new game. (The reason I am so hopeful for the other engine is because it would be made to port from EOS almost instantly)

I had a few concepts for making a new game in Renpy but quickly found out that honestly I don't have the desire to make another story driven choose your own adventure game at all. The only way I could make one unique was by offering an obscene number of choices and paths. However with tots it just takes years of my life for very little return. It also felt like I've been there and done that. While I could always improve the formula significantly it is mired by the feeling of "been there done that".

The engine I finally settled on for my third game is Construct 3 to make a full fledged video game that would be sold on Steam - Fall of Haven. I am a year and a half or so into it now and it's my big bet on myself if I am to have any future in this world. Wish me luck because the release would be somewhat miraculous for a one person team who doesn't know how to code and bit off a TON of scope!
 

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It also felt like I've been there and done that.
I can understand that. Even though I love TotS, and I like Keystroke a lot less (it's just not my type of game); it's still great to see what you developed, how it's totally different, and a unique concept. It shows great creativity. Can't wait to see what you have in store for Fall of Haven. Best of luck!
 

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By the way, I just found this scene where Gabbie is being corrupted by the succubus sombrero (yes, the posting on this thread made me want to play again, and I (almost) always find something new). I was wondering if she can be totally corrupted, does this continue later in the game? I couldn't find anything after that scene.
 

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By the way, I just found this scene where Gabbie is being corrupted by the succubus sombrero (yes, the posting on this thread made me want to play again, and I (almost) always find something new). I was wondering if she can be totally corrupted, does this continue later in the game? I couldn't find anything after that scene.
She can become a succubus - she'll visit you and split into an angel and a succubus.
And from there you can follow her succubus routes to their conclusion.

Here's a save, that starts that event:

\u0001GMUwng8gBwrg4n-ArAWQB6oAMGYBMBagFjz-jwEYA6gY7wDYBWgZrwD4-BH9gGgHYG7G/e/BgH2AM-gHsARuKgApcQDsMAaYaC-1GhhyzqGAB4N6OibcbUD-9HHHsabNeAAwbbvc2r2D-t71m94e+LhZkrn6sDkLu-hgYcBDGafMIAhgAmUAQA-dA7pOCpBkngA9L7xLhwA-2gC68dzxzlomOHRmdoxh-YRw0plh46a5GOEwAr1ik-DjQ0WA4AHGMaHnPCBA4O-AO7LDgDmSxgAU/M2AXTz-8QaRrIynx3P8p662Ngys-xhYxHFNedHgA/AFa3Vx8-dhRerGVgGOgVIA-uue
 
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She can become a succubus - she'll visit you and split into an angel and a succubus.
And from there you can follow her succubus routes to their conclusion.
Thanks for putting the save together. But ... that's actually not the scene I'm referring to. I know about those paths, she roleplays she's a succubus. But I got a scene earlier in the game where I got prompts about Gabbie becoming corrupted; similar to Caprice's promiscuous notification. The scene appeared when you have a dream about gagging Lana and you wake up and hear a sound in the basement. That's where you find Gabbie.

The save below is where the scene starts. Pick these options to get to the sombrero: Check the basement > Any choice > Stop staring > You don't have to do any of that for me . After that you can corrupt her a couple of times (4?) by making the right choices. The scene ends after sleeping together and she telling you she will "hold down the fort". After that scene I can't seem to corrupt her anymore.

\u0001GMUwng8gBwrg4n-A0gJgEIGcADB2ANANgFq-B6QgRkIANDkBWgZoAfcB-mAR7ddu/od/oH0A+wCUA-lgGMAFmJjooAKQD2AO0w-BpwX0H1CAOgF9Gxk7mQ6-BzZI34WBbO45uXLD27Wd-2jt3QBY2AAw+HibGZmZa-3EIA5gCGAEYA34gsUL56-AXrIGtwMNPqGhUUCuADa-ALo6tLgArI78uAAcZtV1-jrUdvqzdLPxWugCvLGRk-+MjINfjY5i6CjEIBAO4B-K6srmABTzsa2nlo79GyM-bju4vnaex4XeugC0zgxn-T21cRlyHoTbMNUc25UA=-==-eP5
 
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Thanks for putting the save together. But ... that's actually not the scene I'm referring to. I know about those paths, she roleplays she's a succubus. But I got a scene earlier in the game where I got prompts about Gabbie becoming corrupted; similar to Caprice's promiscuous notification. The scene appeared when you have a dream about gagging Lana and you wake up and hear a sound in the basement. That's where you find Gabbie.

The save below is where the scene starts. Pick these options to get to the sombrero: Check the basement > Any choice > Stop staring > You don't have to do any of that for me . After that you can corrupt her a couple of times (4?) by making the right choices. The scene ends after sleeping together and she telling you she will "hold down the fort". After that scene I can't seem to corrupt her anymore.

\u0001GMUwng8gBwrg4n-A0gJgEIGcADB2ANANgFq-B6QgRkIANDkBWgZoAfcB-mAR7ddu/od/oH0A+wCUA-lgGMAFmJjooAKQD2AO0w-BpwX0H1CAOgF9Gxk7mQ6-BzZI34WBbO45uXLD27Wd-2jt3QBY2AAw+HibGZmZa-3EIA5gCGAEYA34gsUL56-AXrIGtwMNPqGhUUCuADa-ALo6tLgArI78uAAcZtV1-jrUdvqzdLPxWugCvLGRk-+MjINfjY5i6CjEIBAO4B-K6srmABTzsa2nlo79GyM-bju4vnaex4XeugC0zgxn-T21cRlyHoTbMNUc25UA=-==-eP5
I know that scene. Within that scene you can't change her into a succubus (you can raise her corruption a few times like you've said - like with spanking and stuff - but that doesn't really seem to affect anything).

And re the role play: In the "fallen angel" scenario she refers to her telephone calls as "a succubus making a call" (or something to that extent), so that one seemed less like role playing and her actually being a succubus (compared to the other scenarios). But yeah, it doesn't get more "succuby" than that afaik.
 
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The save below is where the scene starts. Pick these options to get to the sombrero: Check the basement > Any choice > Stop staring > You don't have to do any of that for me . After that you can corrupt her a couple of times (4?) by making the right choices. The scene ends after sleeping together and she telling you she will "hold down the fort". After that scene I can't seem to corrupt her anymore.
Yes, this is the start of planned content that sadly hasn't been made yet. It is also unrelated to her Angel/Succubus roleplay scene.

I have some Easter scenes to knock out in the next few weeks but after that I can prioritize adding to these. (But sadly until engine change it will just be previewer scenes)
 

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How do you get the corrupted caprice endings without her cheating on you? Looks like they were outlined in ending hints but I may have misread?
 

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How do you get the corrupted caprice endings without her cheating on you? Looks like they were outlined in ending hints but I may have misread?
Yeah, corruption without cheating should still be possible. In general avoid any decisions that lead to her raising her promiscuity and make sure that you keep any "bad" responses or ignoring her to a minimum.

I wish I could give more detailed feedback but I would honestly have to go back through the routes and code to remember what those decisions are. (I honestly try to forget them)
 
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