VN Ren'Py Tribulations of a Mage [v0.25.0] [Talothral]

[Christ P Bacon]

And he ain't gonna bald no more!"

 

[Slick Bean]

This game is a prime example of a dev working together with a modder and they manage to implement the most intriguing oddities in the special extra features of the GUI - turn sex talk on or off, adjust scene play pace and a number of others.

Talking during sex is just a massive turn off

Even with talk turned on here it's not too bad.

I hate talking during sex both in real life and in games.

Thank you for the compliment to this game as a testament to the great gaming experience it provides every one of us.
You should enjoy the silence and the pump action of MC all you like, this game gives us all the exquisite options.

But the one big deficit in every single of Talothral's games remains, the absence of any dialogue or description for the sex scenes.
The game loses so much through this and could gain so much more. Just consider, there aren't many renders per sex scene, the animations consist of extremely short and stiff loops. So it's clearly not the case that the visuals alone can carry a really erotic narrative. That has to be done with words, or you'd need longer, better animations and way more single renders.

We are fortunate to have two very different takes of prefferences during the hot scenes: with ot without dialogue.
What is nice to recall from all the other games and also this one: MC is not interested and never invests any time in becoming a great lover, woeing any of the heroines, pursuing anybody or doing dates or tongue plasure hours long kissing sessions with his partners.

Pretty much like it is in real life - you do not go work out and prepare your pleasure organs rigurously for the sex to come, you just enjoy the experience.

 

[HornyyPussy]

I've had a rant on this before in another thread somewhere but i'll repeat.

I hate talking during sex both in real life and in games. In games I just want to see the sex, I don't care what they have to say, the dirty talk is usually shit anyway.

A lot of devs go for the bland old porn talk "take it slut" which is about as sexy as a kick in the vagina.

Talking during sex is just a massive turn off, especially as a lesbian or even you hetero folk doing oral. If your tongue is forming words, it's doing the wrong fucking job.

Even with talk turned on here it's not too bad. One short sentence every now and then is fine but constant yapping during the fuckity fuck, nope, shut up.

Agreed, very few dev's can do sex talk hot, Nefastus is one of the few I can think of but they are scarce.....

And he ain't gonna bald no more!"

Well, we can't have everything in every game unfortunately.....

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

I've had a rant on this before in another thread somewhere but i'll repeat.

I hate talking during sex both in real life and in games. In games I just want to see the sex, I don't care what they have to say, the dirty talk is usually shit anyway.

A lot of devs go for the bland old porn talk "take it slut" which is about as sexy as a kick in the vagina.

Talking during sex is just a massive turn off, especially as a lesbian or even you hetero folk doing oral. If your tongue is forming words, it's doing the wrong fucking job.

Even with talk turned on here it's not too bad. One short sentence every now and then is fine but constant yapping during the fuckity fuck, nope, shut up.

I rant about it quite often also. I'm fuckin, not sittin in a cafe yakkin.

Agreed, very few dev's can to sex talk hot, Nefastus is one of the few I can think of but they are scarce.....

No dev can make sex talk hot. Yeah, yeah. I know: preferences. The quickest way to get me out of the mood, is to start talkin while I'm fuckin. "Well, let's go make some coffee and talk then."

 

[HentaiKami]

And he ain't gonna bald no more!"

Only one protagonist of Talothral, out of three, is bald, so i'd say that there's plenty of representation for non-bald protagonists

 

[HornyyPussy]

I rant about it quite often also. I'm fuckin, not sittin in a cafe yakkin.


No dev can make sex talk hot. Yeah, yeah. I know: preferences. The quickest way to get me out of the mood, is to start talkin while I'm fuckin. "Well, let's go make some coffee and talk then."

I guess it's not so much what they are saying as it is his description of what's happening to be fair.

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

I guess it's not so much what they are saying as it is his description of what's happening to be fair.

Ever heard the old sayin: A picture is worth a thousand words?

 

[HornyyPussy]

Ever heard the old sayin: A picture is worth a thousand words?

Yepp and Nef combine them very well

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

Yepp and Nef combine them very well

And he can delete the words to make it perfect.

There's an old sayin I came up with: "A good dev can describe a scene with dialogue. But a great dev makes you feel a scene without dialogue."

 

[cxx]

i don't mind sex talk as long as it's more than aah's and oooh's and few other things.

 

[keefer43]

Only one protagonist of Talothral, out of three, is bald, so i'd say that there's plenty of representation for non-bald protagonists

Must have been some sort of job action - maybe the hair dresser's union gave their notice, but the hair is more present now.

 

[BCGuy]

There is a toggle for it in the preferences menu.
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I started with the sex scene dialogue enabled, but after a couple of sex scenes, I found the dialogue extremely stilted and repetitious. Having a character say "I've never felt this before!" three or four times in the space of 10 statements (the rest of which were "aaaaaaahhhhh" and veriations, thereof) made me go back and disable it.

 

[botc76]

There is a toggle for it in the preferences menu.
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Lol. That's amazing. I genuinely didn't see this. Talk about self-inflicted frustration. Here I thought that talothral just never added that, and then it was all just me not checking all options.
I skip looking at the options in most games, because usually it just boils down to the standard stuff, but yeah, should have looked more careful.
It is a weird thing to toggle on and off, though, I have to say. I don't think I ever saw this from any other dev.

 

[Talothral]

Lol. That's amazing. I genuinely didn't see this. Talk about self-inflicted frustration. Here I thought that talothral just never added that, and then it was all just me not checking all options.
I skip looking at the options in most games, because usually it just boils down to the standard stuff, but yeah, should have looked more careful.
It is a weird thing to toggle on and off, though, I have to say. I don't think I ever saw this from any other dev.

As you can read above, there are people who don't care for or want it. I don't partially care for it because it makes me laugh, regardless of medium it's used or how it's written. And frankly, it's just a variable and a toggle. And with placing the basic code in a macro it's just one button press in most cases, so after the initial setup (which was already in TRS2) it's just checking the variable.

That being said, I'll try to reduce the repetition of some of them, which is due to the random nature of them in some places. I mean there are only so many ways you can write some of them anyway and eventually it just comes easier to use a list and pick random thing from the list coding wise. However, for that solution to come live I need to stop it exploding things in new and interesting ways that shouldn't be possible. At least in theory.

 

[elprebsi]

And he ain't gonna bald no more!"

the game just startet. maybe the mc is losing his hair due to insomnia because of the dwarf´s snoring

 

[e6mill]

the game just startet. maybe the mc is losing his hair due to insomnia because of the dwarf´s snoring

Baldness doesn't happen overnight - it takes a few years to perfect, ya.

 

[HornyyPussy]

Baldness doesn't happen overnight - it takes a few years to perfect, ya.

Tell me about it.........been working on mine for 30 years

 

[LorgarAurelian]

Don't konw if it's intentionally, or if it's just DAZ that's limited on assets with japanese armour,
but I found it interesting that the soldiers are wearing the mon of the Tokugawa clan.

 

[Talothral]

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Don't konw if it's intentionally, or if it's just DAZ that's limited on assets with japanese armour,
but I found it interesting that the soldiers are wearing the mon of the Tokugawa clan.

It's kind of latter. There are two samurai style armors, one for Genesis 8 (the one that is used) and one for 3. I think the one for Gen 3 would have been emblemless but the one for Gen 8 is better. All of the soldiers are basically wearing same clothing, just missing the pieces depending on their rank.

Generally speaking, gathering eastern style assets has been a challenge, not that many historical ones around. There is a pack for Chinese swords (couple), but armour is... non existent. Haven't tested the one that came with the Terracotta "statues" though so hard to say yet.

Obviously, retexturing would be an option. Unless we count the fact that I can't draw. I may have the tools but I lack the skill to make it look good, or anything that looks anything else than pile of straight lines... with luck. And now that clipping irritates me *sigh*.

EDIT: CBA to make new post. There is a reason why most fantasy VN's revolves around the medieval European style. There are tons of assets you can use for that. Deviate from that and you will have issues and have to get creative. I know I took a risk having at least large portion revolve around more eastern style. But personally, despite the annoyances, it has been worth it over all. And luckily, it is fantasy it doesn't need to be "100% culturally appropriate" and I can take some creative freedoms.

 

[cxx]

started to play this yesterday and so far texts during sex have been bad and just too much repeating like same sentence 2 times in row and multiple times during scene so better to turn sex dialogue off.