VN Ren'Py Tribulations of a Mage [v0.51.0] [Talothral]

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Dr.TSoni said:
Before the "dark ages" several civilizations shaved their hair, such as the Greeks and Romans.
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Not really aimed at you as is, just closest one to quote and I'm lazy...

It went even beyond "dark ages", late medieval period/Renaissance, forgot which exactly; it was amusingly the nobility who stopped shaving their pubic hair. Why? To differentiate themselves from peasants and prostitutes (especially the latter). Yes, this is something that people has studied... And it is one of the reasons why most (if not all) of those classical nude paintings have shaved women (and men), because it was the norm. Pubic hair became more of a thing in paintings in 1800... ish? Don't really recall seeing it before that.

People seem to think that, partially thanks to the media, long hair and bodily hair were the norm. To a point they are right; the more northern you are the chances are you had more body hair simply due the climate and some pests not surviving the cold winters, but the more south you go, the body hair would be less simply because of pests.

Ancient Egyptians were shaved (hair and pubic hair). The nobility wore wigs. At least one of the priest sects shaved everything daily to be as smooth as possible, including eyebrows that most people didn't shave. And it makes sense; if you don't have hair the dirt and lice is easier to get rid of. So the "all natural" look is relatively new when it comes to history, and it has been partially been possible because hygiene has got better, accessible and more importantly, cheaper. A good soap was a luxury product in middle ages and priced out of the range of most people. The common soap was made from tallow (animal fat) and ash. It was caustic, it would cause blisters to anyone using it so it was used to wash clothes, pots, pans and other things.

EDIT: And yes, Tomas has pubic hair, shockingly. It's just most assets for males are... let's just say aren't anywhere near the quality or versatility of the female counterparts...
 
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Talothral said:
Not really aimed at you as is, just closest one to quote and I'm lazy...

It went even beyond "dark ages", late medieval period/Renaissance, forgot which exactly; it was amusingly the nobility who stopped shaving their pubic hair. Why? To differentiate themselves from peasants and prostitutes (especially the latter). Yes, this is something that people has studied... And it is one of the reasons why most (if not all) of those classical nude paintings have shaved women (and men), because it was the norm. Pubic hair became more of a thing in paintings in 1800... ish? Don't really recall seeing it before that.

People seem to think that, partially thanks to the media, long hair and bodily hair were the norm. To a point they are right; the more northern you are the chances are you had more body hair simply due the climate and some pests not surviving the cold winters, but the more south you go, the body hair would be less simply because of pests.

Ancient Egyptians were shaved (hair and pubic hair). The nobility wore wigs. At least one of the priest sects shaved everything daily to be as smooth as possible, including eyebrows that most people didn't shave. And it makes sense; if you don't have hair the dirt and lice is easier to get rid of. So the "all natural" look is relatively new when it comes to history, and it has been partially been possible because hygiene has got better, accessible and more importantly, cheaper. A good soap was a luxury product in middle ages and priced out of the range of most people. The common soap was made from tallow (animal fat) and ash. It was caustic, it would cause blisters to anyone using it so it was used to wash clothes, pots, pans and other things.

EDIT: And yes, Tomas has pubic hair, shockingly. It's just most assets for males are... let's just say aren't anywhere near the quality or versatility of the female counterparts...
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It's funny, like a month ago I had this same discussion on another game thread. Funny to see the same subject come up again for another game. I even gave the same examples then of the Egyptians and such. :LOL:
 
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JoeTheMC84 said:
It's funny, like a month ago I had this same discussion on another game thread. Funny to see the same subject come up again for another game. I even gave the same examples then of the Egyptians and such. :LOL:
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Yeah it's one of those things that pop up relatively often. Peoples, let's say, view of has become distorted. You see these "historical" series with people with big bushy beards and long locks of hair. It is accurate to a point. Longer hair was a thing especially for nobility throughout the ages (and depending on the region, north vs south), but it wasn't the norm for most of the people. And because of that perception, it is easy to think that they didn't shave their pubic hair either. And it isn't like something like that is taught during history lessons either, so if you want to know, you need to specifically look it up. And fairly certain that a history teacher saying: "Eleanor of Aquitaine had a shaved cunt because crabs and lice were a problem," would rile up the parents. >.>
 
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not animals.
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Yeah, most of them don't even have animal characteristics. There's Iraea, ofc, and Anor has something like caprine features (cloven feet and horns), and I suppose someone could argue kitsune (so Shiori and Kokoro) are foxlike enough, the nagas are snakelike enough, and that human form doesn't change the fact that Miki is actually a dragon.

But even with all of that, they really are just humanoids (essentially, though obviously they are other races / species) with some animal-like characteristics (except for Miki, but she's fully in human form when having sex, so IDK why it would matter). That's not the same thing at all; their sex and nursing organs are all the same as humans, but with coloring in some cases. Even Nisha isn't actually a panther, but is forced into that form usually, for the time being. And the MC doesn't have sex with her when she's in panther form.
 
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Talothral said:
Not really aimed at you as is, just closest one to quote and I'm lazy...

It went even beyond "dark ages", late medieval period/Renaissance, forgot which exactly; it was amusingly the nobility who stopped shaving their pubic hair. Why? To differentiate themselves from peasants and prostitutes (especially the latter). Yes, this is something that people has studied... And it is one of the reasons why most (if not all) of those classical nude paintings have shaved women (and men), because it was the norm. Pubic hair became more of a thing in paintings in 1800... ish? Don't really recall seeing it before that.

People seem to think that, partially thanks to the media, long hair and bodily hair were the norm. To a point they are right; the more northern you are the chances are you had more body hair simply due the climate and some pests not surviving the cold winters, but the more south you go, the body hair would be less simply because of pests.

Ancient Egyptians were shaved (hair and pubic hair). The nobility wore wigs. At least one of the priest sects shaved everything daily to be as smooth as possible, including eyebrows that most people didn't shave. And it makes sense; if you don't have hair the dirt and lice is easier to get rid of. So the "all natural" look is relatively new when it comes to history, and it has been partially been possible because hygiene has got better, accessible and more importantly, cheaper. A good soap was a luxury product in middle ages and priced out of the range of most people. The common soap was made from tallow (animal fat) and ash. It was caustic, it would cause blisters to anyone using it so it was used to wash clothes, pots, pans and other things.

EDIT: And yes, Tomas has pubic hair, shockingly. It's just most assets for males are... let's just say aren't anywhere near the quality or versatility of the female counterparts...
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e6mill said:
Except it's not Summer in the South for another 2 months or so... :p
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He was stuck in there after the last summer. As it's not really ideal to travel into or out of Antartica at winter. He's just come back after the first sign of summer in Antarctica.
 
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PR Mitter said:
Are you from Cuba or North Korea where internet is scarce? Why would you care about extra few GBs??
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Even in european country not everyone have the fiber little one, some of us are still with low ADSL... where 4go take a full week to ddl

Either that or the fact that not all of us can aford a 4to SSD/HDD
 
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I found a “bug” that prevents the game from continuing.
I can roll back, but I always get the same error message:

"I'm sorry, but an uncaught exception occurred.

While running game code:
File “game/update39.rpy”, line 1124, in script
jump u39_Lakha_SexScene1
ScriptError: could not find label ‘u39_Lakha_SexScene1’.

-- Full Traceback ------------------------------------------------------------

Full traceback:
File “game/update39.rpy”, line 1124, in script
jump u39_Lakha_SexScene1
File “C:\Users\YodasEnkel\Downloads\Tribulations of a Mage\renpy\ast.py”, line 1697, in execute
rv = renpy.game.script.lookup (target)
File “C:\Users\YodasEnkel\Downloads\Tribulations of a Mage\renpy\script.py”, line 898, in lookup
raise ScriptError(“could not find label ‘%s’.” % str(original))
ScriptError: could not find label ‘u39_Lakha_SexScene1’.

Windows-8-6.2.9200
Ren'Py 7.3.5.606
Tribulations of a Mage 0.49.0
Fri Oct 03 12:07:56 2025"

Is there already a solution for this?

Translated with DeepL.com (free version)
 
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On another note, was replaying the game from start & a question i was having some versions ago came back in my mind.

Is there a way through save file or game file to change Kokoro name & age ? because imo she look all but like a heart, this name don't fit her, as for her age i find sad to not have any teen (16-17).

Let me be clear, i'm not asking the dev to change anything in his game, i'm not even asking for a "patch" (even if it would be sweet), i'm just asking where i have to look & edit my game/save folder/files on my end, if it's even a possibility at all.
 
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I mean, if you need to so bad, you could probably just open the scripts file in a text editor like Word and do a find/replace on whatever you want to change.

Just don't complain if you break something.
 
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