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Syploore

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it's not about to "shut eyes" - it's about equal rights for all.
Other games like DMD got the NTR tag forcefully applied by a Moderator, even the sex was also avoidable and happened WITH agreement of the MC (willingly sharing) - it was also "just" one scene.
There is no rule about what amount of content has to be in there to be tagged as NTR - the content is there, so it has to get NTR tag.

SAME RULES FOR EVERYONE

Even more as the dev himself calls these scenes "ntr"
I think this tag is not written there because the game has not yet implemented NTR. And the developer indicated in the dev notes that NTR is planned, so I don't understand exactly what you want. The tagging rules clearly state that you should only write tags that relate to what's already implemented in the game, not what's planned.
 

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The "Bonus Content" was created to tell parts of the story that the MC is not directly involved in. In other words, interactions that take place while the MC is not present. So this is not needed to play through the story, but it gives you more insight of some things happening behind the scenes.

The only NTR planned involves the MC's ex, which would involve her and other males. As stated before, only 2, maybe 3, of these scenes will exist by the time the season's 10 episodes are complete.
So again:

this IS NTR - you don't even deny - So there WILL be NTR content in the game, so either add NTR tag, or at least put NTR in "planned tags"
 

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How is NTR defined? If it's cheating/cuckholding then this wouldn't apply. If it's an ex being involved with someone other than MC, then sure.
Damn, i see where this is going. But most important: Is bitch ex is love interest?

Because the way I see it, if she is NOT a love interest and she is a side-character\antagonist\whatever and fucks around with other men, then it's not NTR. right? At least for me. Some NTR fans \ pro \ knowing people should correct me.
 

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How is NTR defined? If it's cheating/cuckholding then this wouldn't apply. If it's an ex being involved with someone other than MC, then sure.
F95 calls NTR as: Any LoveInterest having sex with an other male aside MC behind his back.

(Just for your know: in DMD the daughter slept with another male and ASKED dad (MC) before doing that if is she is allowed to do, and he agreed (avoidable by just deny her wish - then she does nothing with him). By "normal" definition of NTR this wouldn't be ntr at all, as it wasn't behind his back. Nevertheless some Moderator forcefully applied NTR tag. This is why i rage - nothing against you or your game, nothing against NTR in general. I just want equal rights and equal treatment for everyone.)
 

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F95 calls NTR as: Any LoveInterest having sex with an other male aside MC behind his back.

(Just for your know: in DMD the daughter slept with another male and ASKED dad (MC) before doing that is she is allowed, and he agreed. By "normal" definition of NTR this wouldn't be ntr at all, as it wasn't behind his back. Nevertheless some Moderator forcefully applied NTR tag. This is why i rage - nothing against you or your game, nothing against NTR in general. I just want equal rights and equal treatment for everyone.)
I understand what pissed you off, because what was going on in the DMD is ( HUGE IMO ) probably not correct to call it NTR, it fits more under Sharing.

But then again, what I described in the post above. It's not implemented in the game yet, which means it shouldn't be in the tags.
 
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Damn, i see where this is going. But most important: Is bitch ex is love interest?

Because the way I see it, if she is NOT a love interest and she is a side-character\antagonist\whatever and fucks around with other men, then it's not NTR. right? At least for me. Some NTR fans \ pro \ knowing people should correct me.
technicaly not, but if she is not LIs, than it is probably pointless to show her fuck others or even write her in game :D

like seriously i know it is porn game (adult content game) but it doesnt mean that there must be whores,brothel,prostitution or everyone fuck everything in every game cause to fill adult theme.
 

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I understand what pissed you off, because what was going on in the DMD is ( HUGE IMO ) probably not correct to call it NTR, it fits more under Sharing.

But then again, what I described in the post above. It's not implemented in the game yet, which means it shouldn't be in the tags.
sharing is ntr to....that some like it is not making it diferent.
 

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The "Bonus Content" was created to tell parts of the story that the MC is not directly involved in. In other words, interactions that take place while the MC is not present. So this is not needed to play through the story, but it gives you more insight of some things happening behind the scenes.

The only NTR planned involves the MC's ex, which would involve her and other males. As stated before, only 2, maybe 3, of these scenes will exist by the time the season's 10 episodes are complete.
Hi Dev, I have 2 VERY IMPORTANT questions:

1- Knowing this, will it be possible to completely avoid the ex-girlfriend, or will the pathetic “it's required by the plot” excuse force me to get along with her (or even worse sleep with her?)

2- Furthermore, we will have freedom of choice regarding sex scenes and L.I. or will they be forced?
 

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sharing is ntr to....that some like it is not making it diferent.
sharing is NOT NTR - NTR is fucking behind the back (with intention to steal the loveinterest away or incite jealousy) - sharing isn't behind the back, it happens with full consent and with control of the player - BIG difference
 

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technicaly not, but if she is not LIs, than it is probably pointless to show her fuck others or even write her in game :D

like seriously i know it is porn game (adult content game) but it doesnt mean that there must be whores,brothel or everyone fuck everything in every game cause to fill adult theme.
I agree, which is why these scenes are not part of the main game where you follow the MC around. They are part of the optional extra Bonus Content package that shows some interactions from other character's point of view. I'll write up a clearer distinction on the game's description explaining this.
 

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sharing is NOT NTR - NTR is fucking behind the back (with intention to steal the loveinterest away or incite jealousy) - sharing isn't behind the back, it happens with full consent of the player - BIG difference
by definition of f95 it is when LIs is romanticaly involved with others than MC....that MC is alowing or like it is not making diference. but we r going to discusion here and probably should not.
 
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kokos94

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I agree, which is why these scenes are not part of the main game where you follow the MC around. They are part of the optional extra Bonus Content package that shows some interactions from other character's point of view. I'll write up a clearer distinction on the game's description explaining this.
look i am glad u aggree but still u r doing that :D

what is f. point to do main game where everything is right and than randomly do scenes where your LIs is fucking others without MC knowing?
 

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I agree, which is why these scenes are not part of the main game where you follow the MC around. They are part of the optional extra Bonus Content package that shows some interactions from other character's point of view. I'll write up a clearer distinction on the game's description explaining this.
You could have written that NTR won't be in the game, it would have helped avoid unnecessary discussion, since it will only be in the "optional extra Bonus Content package".
 
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I agree, which is why these scenes are not part of the main game where you follow the MC around. They are part of the optional extra Bonus Content package that shows some interactions from other character's point of view. I'll write up a clearer distinction on the game's description explaining this.
It doesn't depend on whether it's bonus content or not. It only does matter if there is content in the game (avoidable or not).

The only thing what matters are 2 simple questions:
1.) is she (who fucks other guys) a loveinterest?
2.) Does it happen behind MC's back without him knowing?

If both to be answered with "yes", then it's NTR - no matter if bonus, avoidable or whatever else.
 

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F95 calls NTR as: Any LoveInterest having sex with an other male aside MC behind his back.

(Just for your know: in DMD the daughter slept with another male and ASKED dad (MC) before doing that if is she is allowed to do, and he agreed (avoidable by just deny her wish - then she does nothing with him). By "normal" definition of NTR this wouldn't be ntr at all, as it wasn't behind his back. Nevertheless some Moderator forcefully applied NTR tag. This is why i rage - nothing against you or your game, nothing against NTR in general. I just want equal rights and equal treatment for everyone.)
Again with this DMD crap, the tag isn't there anymore so i don't know why you keep crying about it. It's not first game to get tagged incorrectly and it won't be the last. If you want to talk "equal treatment", then Melody should get the NTR tag.

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Exactly THIS is what's called NTR - even the dev himself calls these scenes NTR - so please apply the correct NTR tag.

... includes one of the girls WITHOUT MC being present ....

So at least one of the LI's fuck others behind MC's back. If that's not NTR then i don't know.
Melody can cheat on MC with Sophia. If that's not NTR then i don't know.
 

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Again with this DMD crap, the tag isn't there anymore so i don't know why you keep crying about it. It's not first game to get tagged incorrectly and it won't be the last.
Oh - they FINALLY removed the tag, didn't even see that. Last week it still has been there.
Funny that they NOW as the game is finished, removed the tag after months of complaining it being wrong applied.

Each way - i am out - I have told what i wanted to tell - no reason to keep pushing it (for now)
 
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