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The endings were a huge letdown after the amazing build-up.
Quoted this guy because his line kind of encapsulates how I feel. Other than a couple Aya endings, and the one with him and the kitchen knife, none of the endings to me were very satisfying, as well as the bonus content seemed to get worse and worse.

Maybe I'll go in depth further if I have the energy but even if I wasn't rooting for the MC, i should not have hated him as much as I did. In Turning the Page, Felix is weak, but he's a much more believable and down to earth character than Harry. And his suspicion of the antagonist plays much better than Harry's obliviousness to everything around him. Like I tolerated at first but by the end of the game it just got to be a bit much. Granted the writing styles are different.
 
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The endings were a huge letdown after the amazing build-up.
Well, to be fair...
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To be fair to APBLU, we haven't seen any of the endings in TTP yet...

Maybe I'll go in depth further if I have the energy but even if I wasn't rooting for the MC, i should not have hated him as much as I did. In Turning the Page, Felix is weak, but he's a much more believable and down to earth character than Harry. And his suspicion of the antagonist plays much better than Harry's obliviousness to everything around him. Like I tolerated at first but by the end of the game it just got to be a bit much. Granted the writing styles are different.
I came to realize after a while that the reason Harry got the treatment he did was because he actually wasn't the main character. Laura was the main character; Harry was just a side character in her story.

When you look at it that way, everything starts to make more sense. I expect the same thing to happen with Aya's route that's currently releasing.
 

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I know this is kind of old at this point, but I feel the need point out a couple of things.

I don't think she's throwing away her career at all. There's no indication of that.
Yes, Sophie is at least risking her career and she is fully aware of that. She's said it herself a couple of times in the story at this point.

Also, the game states she was quite sheltered and actually married the first guy she had sex with, like you said. Felix was her boyfriend when they were younger, I'm not even sure she had other sexual experiences. Sounds like you are contradicting yourself.
False. Sophie herself tells Amy that she had a couple of partners before Felix. Just never someone like Zack.

...Don't really care about where your conversation went after this, but someone was wrong on the internet and I just couldn't let that slide.

Edit: Correcting minor spelling mistakes :D
 
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I know this is kind of old at this point, but feel the need point out a couple of things.



1. Yes, Sophie is at least risking her career and she is fully aware of that. She's said it herself a couple of times in the story at this point.



False. Sophie herself tells Amy that she had a couple of partners before Felix. Just never someone like Zack.

...Don't really care about where your conversation went after this, but someone was wrong on the internet and I just couldn't let that slide.
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Nefurien

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Yes, Sophie is at least risking her career and she is fully aware of that. She's said it herself a couple of times in the story at this point.
Never said she isn't risking her career, the other user said she's throwing it away. Completely different. If you need more explanation about this, let me know, but I think it's clear.
False. Sophie herself tells Amy that she had a couple of partners before Felix. Just never someone like Zack.
Having a boyfriend or two doesn't mean that those have been long relationships, where she explored her sexuality. For what you know, they may have lasted one week each. This is what the other user said: "If the female protagonist was a housewife who had a sheltered humdrum existence and married the first guy she had sex with, then she may well behave the way the female lead plays here."

My response was related to that and to the fact that Sophie is exactly that kind of housewife-like character they were talking about. She hasn't had dozens of relationships, you can totally see that she's discovering her sexuality with Zack, and it's not at all strange. There are a lot of women in their 30s who have had little sex and know little about their bodies. Sophie is a nerdy girl who started a relationship at a young age with her nerdy boyfriend, so that situation of "sheltered humdrum existence" that the other user mentioned is totally in line with Sophie's character and her past life.
 

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I sincerely apologize for the profanity, I am but an uncultured rapscallion. Now, let us all go forth and with nether regions in hand, bring ourselves to completion to games of fornicating our mothers and sisters, and sometimes daughters. Let's spill ourselves to black men with absurdly large penises having their way with our women. Again, sorry my profanity offended thee you fine upstanding son of a bitch.
 

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Question for you guys. I currently think this is the best NTR game out right now. I literally have not been able to wait for the free version and have been paying the 15 bucks to get it on the 20th. Is there a better more comprehensive and seductive NTR game than this one right now?? I truly would like to know, I feel like this game corrects the mistakes that A promise Best Left Unkept made.
If there is a better NTR game out there right now than this one, please let me know because I'm honestly curious.
This game is one of the best on the site for sure but I really like what Sieglinnde is doing with "Let the Nightshine In". Great story as far as cheating/NTR goes. Dude's gonna be unstoppable once he upgrades to Daz.
 
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Hello
i have TurningthePage-0.16.0 ver
how can i update it to 0.17.0
is this i need to download the game again ? and what about my saves ?
 

starthrow

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Story is very on-rails and doesn't make too much sense. I get that porn games run on porn logic, but the best games around here are the one's where the porn logic is at least tied to realistic outcomes and expectations. So I'm not entirely sure what people are talking about when they say this game is one of the best, but to each their own I suppose. I'm not a traditional NTR fan.

When you take your junk out of your hands, the most likely prognosis for the story is that Felix finds out, and leaves his lunatic wife. He outs her for having sexual relations with Zack, who earlier in the events was her student, which throws the entire academic standard out of the window. The other students in the class would inevitably end up forming a class action lawsuit against the college for unfair outcomes(this happens a lot IRL, by the way,) so Sophie ends up exposed, fired, socially outcast, and blacklisted from her profession. Zack is a narcissist, who will either go on to become a nobody, or his sporting prowess means he goes mainstream pro sports. If the former, he has far better options than some mid 30's mediocre looking (by in-universe anime standards) socially outcast and financially burdensome former college professor who will almost certainly cheat again (cheaters keep cheating, real world advice right here,) and will most likely become a gold digging toy boy who cheats on his rich wife. If the latter situation, it's the same but with supermodels. Regardless of how long it takes, be it another character in this game or a hypothetical post-game scenario, Zack will get bored of her, leave, Sophie ends up alone, broke, homeless, jobless, and with no hope for the future.
Meanwhile Felix has become a rather high ranking university professor and dean of...something(mathematics, wasn't it?), which supposedly, regardless of how it actually functioned, seems to have created a program that has been a success. He wouldn't want to stay near this place where his sociopathic ex wife tried ruining his life, and would receive many good job offers from elsewhere (and could blackmail his current boss into giving him glowing recommendations in exchange for not exposing the boss' role in the cheating scandal.) There he is most likely to meet some young student in her last year of college, and he uses the money he got to start a family and live a good life.

A lot of people think games like this are depressing, but in a roundabout way they are kind of hopeful, except when they are written like shit and make absolutely no sense (hopefully this one doesn't, but it already went for the magical big dick trope, so..) But at that point they're so bad that you can't even care. Terrible people like Sophie exist in the real world in large numbers, and there's a certain cathartic relief when these shitty people are given an opportunity to out themselves for what they are, and do so. I get it's fiction, but if we use our suspension of disbelief for a moment for a hypothetical future story point, it's good he found out what she was before they started a family. Blessing in disguise.


P.S:
Does anyone know any ntr games where the main character has a mental breakdown and gets justice on his cheating sociopath of a wife + her confederates, and then finds somebody better? My limited exposure to this genre makes me feel like there's 3 tired tropes on repeat with the same 2 endings over and over again(MC gets abandoned, or MC becomes a cuck and lives with being treated worse than a dog.) All these awful people getting what they deserve should always be an available option in games, even if it cuts the porn/story content short, if that's what the player wants. Good writing to me would be some of these husbands/boyfriends getting shocked back into reality and not letting their dehumanization and mistreatment stand.
All I want for christmas is a cosmic justice ending.
 

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Bruh, when Sophie started rambling on about how Zack's body was strong and he could protect her, my honest reaction was:
lol. My thoughts exactly. I cringed and had to close the game when she said that. All his large stature means is that he would end up catching more of the buckshot when Felix goes Danger Mode with the 12guage.
 
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Story is very on-rails and doesn't make too much sense. I get that porn games run on porn logic, but the best games around here are the one's where the porn logic is at least tied to realistic outcomes and expectations. So I'm not entirely sure what people are talking about when they say this game is one of the best, but to each their own I suppose. I'm not a traditional NTR fan.

When you take your junk out of your hands, the most likely prognosis for the story is that Felix finds out, and leaves his lunatic wife. He outs her for having sexual relations with Zack, who earlier in the events was her student, which throws the entire academic standard out of the window. The other students in the class would inevitably end up forming a class action lawsuit against the college for unfair outcomes(this happens a lot IRL, by the way,) so Sophie ends up exposed, fired, socially outcast, and blacklisted from her profession. Zack is a narcissist, who will either go on to become a nobody, or his sporting prowess means he goes mainstream pro sports. If the former, he has far better options than some mid 30's mediocre looking (by in-universe anime standards) socially outcast and financially burdensome former college professor who will almost certainly cheat again (cheaters keep cheating, real world advice right here,) and will most likely become a gold digging toy boy who cheats on his rich wife. If the latter situation, it's the same but with supermodels. Regardless of how long it takes, be it another character in this game or a hypothetical post-game scenario, Zack will get bored of her, leave, Sophie ends up alone, broke, homeless, jobless, and with no hope for the future.
Meanwhile Felix has become a rather high ranking university professor and dean of...something(mathematics, wasn't it?), which supposedly, regardless of how it actually functioned, seems to have created a program that has been a success. He wouldn't want to stay near this place where his sociopathic ex wife tried ruining his life, and would receive many good job offers from elsewhere (and could blackmail his current boss into giving him glowing recommendations in exchange for not exposing the boss' role in the cheating scandal.) There he is most likely to meet some young student in her last year of college, and he uses the money he got to start a family and live a good life.

A lot of people think games like this are depressing, but in a roundabout way they are kind of hopeful, except when they are written like shit and make absolutely no sense (hopefully this one doesn't, but it already went for the magical big dick trope, so..) But at that point they're so bad that you can't even care. Terrible people like Sophie exist in the real world in large numbers, and there's a certain cathartic relief when these shitty people are given an opportunity to out themselves for what they are, and do so. I get it's fiction, but if we use our suspension of disbelief for a moment for a hypothetical future story point, it's good he found out what she was before they started a family. Blessing in disguise.


P.S:
Does anyone know any ntr games where the main character has a mental breakdown and gets justice on his cheating sociopath of a wife + her confederates, and then finds somebody better? My limited exposure to this genre makes me feel like there's 3 tired tropes on repeat with the same 2 endings over and over again(MC gets abandoned, or MC becomes a cuck and lives with being treated worse than a dog.) All these awful people getting what they deserve should always be an available option in games, even if it cuts the porn/story content short, if that's what the player wants. Good writing to me would be some of these husbands/boyfriends getting shocked back into reality and not letting their dehumanization and mistreatment stand.
All I want for christmas is a cosmic justice ending.
Man do people go into incest games hoping for cosmic justice where the MC ends up rising kids with genetic disorders?

Those games are made for audiences that fund them and will focus on delivering the kink. As result the games will end up being similar, especially for someone that is not a fan and can't recognize the subtle flavors.
 
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Man do people go into incest games hoping for cosmic justice where the MC ends up rising kids with genetic disorders?
That would be a hilarious outcome. I'd play that. Also statistically, first generation incest rarely have problems. 'Inbreeding Depression' is usually a consequence of long term gene pool bottleneck. But yes, I understand what you're saying.

Those games are made for audiences that fund them and will focus on delivering the kink. As result the games will end up being similar, especially for someone that is not a fan and can't recognize the subtle flavors.
The NTR tag is shared on this website. I don't mind some consensual wife sharing type content (NTS) every now and again, but there is no NTS tag. So I end up in games that aren't clear with the content, or how much control the player has over events. Many NTR games allow you to alter the outcomes and it's almost never clear which are which. So now after playing a bunch of this type of NTR game inadvertently, I seem to have developed a strong desire to play them, but have them end positively for that catharsis. Is my desire any less valid than anyone elses?

So let me ask you this: Why is it unreasonable that I wish some of these games have the option for good endings rather than only the bad ones? I get your profit motive argument, and understand that. But then why do some games end better than others? Because some people want something and then have ending A, while others want the same thing but then want ending B. You'll notice that I have never said that you shouldn't get your really sad ending as well as my option for the good ending.
 

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That would be a hilarious outcome. I'd play that. Also statistically, first generation incest rarely have problems. 'Inbreeding Depression' is usually a consequence of long term gene pool bottleneck. But yes, I understand what you're saying.


The NTR tag is shared on this website. I don't mind some consensual wife sharing type content (NTS) every now and again, but there is no NTS tag. So I end up in games that aren't clear with the content, or how much control the player has over events. Many NTR games allow you to alter the outcomes and it's almost never clear which are which. So now after playing a bunch of this type of NTR game ,, I seem to have developed a strong desire to play them, but have them end positively for that catharsis. Is my desire any less valid than anyone elses?

So let me ask you this: Why is it unreasonable that I wish some of these games have the option for good endings rather than only the bad ones? I get your profit motive argument, and understand that. But then why do some games end better than others? Because some people want something and then have ending A, while others want the same thing but then want ending B. You'll notice that I have never said that you shouldn't get your really sad ending as well as my option for the good ending.
The new tag system will have netorase and netori tags, really it can't come soon enough.
Having desires or preferences is one thing but criticizing game because it doesn't fulfill them is another.

About profit motive : when project is making considerably more than bottom line devs can afford to sidetrack and make content that may not nacessarily be the most popular with its patrons. But when project is just making it due devs probably will stick to what is most desired by the supporters. There are many reasons why some games are better than others but for those niche projects it doesn't really matter if the game is good on objective level. It matters if its good from the subjective viewpoint of its supporters.

There is also fact that the NTR tag is very ... controversial. As in your general audience wants nothing of it and will boycot, riot and try to sabotage projects that would have girls fuck another male let alone actuall ntr content. As result number of NTR fans has taken the opposite stance - "I want nothing in my NTR game that those vanilla !$!@ could enjoy". So there is actual pushback against good endings in hard NTR games.
 
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Having desires or preferences is one thing but criticizing game because it doesn't fulfill them is another.
I think criticism of a multi-choice ending game that doesn't have enough variation in the endings is a reasonable complaint. It's not like anyone has to listen to me. But having games that given satisfactory endings to different people with different predilections is in the developer's best interests, too. Criticism drives positive change, in my opinion. I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this.

There is also fact that the NTR tag is very ... controversial. As in your general audience wants nothing of it and will boycot, riot and try to sabotage projects that would have girls fuck another male let alone actuall ntr content. As result number for NTR fans has taken the opposite stance - "I want nothing in my NTR game that those vanilla !$!@ could enjoy". So there is actual pushback against good endings in hard NTR games.
Yeah, okay. I freely admit I don't understand the internal culture of the adult video game community. I wasn't aware of the degrees of pettiness involved. lol

The new tag system will have netorase and netori tags, really it can't come soon enough.
I agree. I'm not a big user of the forums here (obviously), do you know when this is coming through or is there a thread/announcement I can look at?
 

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I agree. I'm not a big user of the forums here (obviously), do you know when this is coming through or is there a thread/announcement I can look at?
Sadly I don't, maybe someone else can help All I know that there is Announcement section on the main page and there you can find discussion thread about upcoming tags but nothing about when.
 

mzer0

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Yeah, okay. I freely admit I don't understand the internal culture of the adult video game community. I wasn't aware of the degrees of pettiness involved. lol
You should know that the pettiness is a bit more complex than that.

Sure, there are those in the 'NTR community' (eye-rolling term for me because it's often just a dog whistle used by gatekeepers) who are pushing back against the buthurt vanilla lovers who tend to brigade our kink, but there are also those within the 'community' who have a very narrow view of what the NTR kink entails.

Not only do these people rail against 'happy endings' in NTR, but they don't even like cathartic ones where the cheater, after betraying their partner, ultimately suffers the consequences of their actions.

Even though I love how brutal NTR can be, I, much like you, also tend to enjoy the occasional ending where the cheater gets what's coming to them. Oh, but here comes that pesky 'community' again, insisting that anything other than the MC's perpetual misery and suffering isn't 'real NTR' (when, in reality, there are many kinds of NTR). I would argue that those members of the 'community' are confusing NTR with the Western Cuckoldry humiliation fetish, which is more limited than NTR, but I won't start beating that particular dead horse again. :p


You asked for recommendations?
There are a few games that I can think of off the top of my head that give the option of cathartic endings...

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There are more, of course, but these are just the ones I could think of right now and what is available on F95. Hope you enjoy.
 
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I always get a kick out of the NTR market. “I like …..but I don’t like …. Okay I get it. While I enjoy this game I usually don’t play NTR games with the cheating tag. I prefer more of the hot wife or wife sharing games. But I would never criticize those that do. You like what you like. Just enjoy the fact that there are 540 pages of games here that will satisfy just about any kink
 
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