The fact that Zach was presented as too perfect is a reason why this is not a very good story (nor a good ntr). There’s no tension or mystery if the choice for Sophie (or for any woman, as you put it) is this obvious.not the same though
ugly old dude (good at fucking) VS avg loving dude
in TtP Good looking young stud (good at fucking) with the potential of big-money success (athlete) VS a below avg teacher with a boring lifestyle (bad at fucking)
Felix's character is set up for failure from the beginning as it should be in an NTR GAME
let's be honest for a second if any woman got to secure a committed relationship with someone like Zack she would leave her husband immediately some women do it with just a lie so what do you think would happen if he was sincere like Zack in this ending
This ending is bad for YOU. You should maybe specify it while writing, seems like you're speaking the truth when for me and many others it's a perfect ending.The fact that Zach was presented as too perfect is a reason why this is not a very good story (nor a good ntr). There’s no tension or mystery if the choice for Sophie (or for any woman, as you put it) is this obvious.
The story presented “reasons against Zach” for Sophie: He’s her student, he’s much younger and she’s (somewhat happily) married to Felix.
But it dealt with them in shallow, unsatisfactory ways.
Zach’s younger - He’s presented as mature beyond his years. More mature than Sophie in ways he shouldn’t. Sophie has no trouble connecting with much younger man that would have different upbringing and different priorities in life (Why is he a family man, ready to settle down as a teenager?)
Zach’s her student - This has not been presented as being a major negative. “What if we’re found out” is downplayed and only used as a cheap thrill for sex scenes.
Marriage with Felix - Reduced to Sophie constantly saying to herself “I still love Felix” until she stopped and mundane scenes where Sophie is progressively more and more annoyed at Felix. It’s difficult to write a believeable and interesting married relationship, so I don’t blame the devs much on this one.
Additionally, the corruption aspect, which is usually a big part of ntr, in this game leads to… happy, loving relationship with a perfect man? That’s not corruption. Sophie’s been hinted at becoming sadistic by belittling Felix but even that was just a brief phase for her. She’s settled to be quite well adjusted person.
Other endings might be better, but they won’t change that this ending is bad and it came first.
What about this reasons? The "perfect man" is a slut, huh?The story presented “reasons against Zach” for Sophie
Do you know we had this talk like 20 pages before and 10 versions ago and Azienda actually had put in this game the Sophie's line where she exclusively states that even if Felix had Zach's dick she still wouldn't be with him? Now you know.if Felix had the same dick as Zack, it wouldn't have ended like this
Many people don't read and skip dialogues. Even the guy a few posts ago who talked about a "bad" ending said that he skipped dialogues. And now he thinks he can give an opinion about the game.What about this reasons? The "perfect man" is a slut, huh?
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And is Sophie the only sadistic person, really? Nobody uploaded her pics on school's PC for Felix to see? Nobody was humiliating Felix here and there every time them 3 were in one room? Nobody shit-talked Felix when he found Zach and Sophie together?
I personally find it hilarious how almost everyone complaining about this ending are simplifying the story and than complain about their simplified image instead of real story. I guess all you disgusting people just clicked through all the text not reading it, just lurking for porn pictures, and that's the root of the issue
Maybe I didn't understand but what was the purpose 5 years later did he and Sophia sending Felix sex videos. Being a family man. What did I miss. Seems he was still a dick and she was a hoe.Many people don't read and skip dialogues. Even the guy a few posts ago who talked about a "bad" ending said that he skipped dialogues. And now he thinks he can give an opinion about the game.
In the last updates Zack showed, including the scene at the amusement park but also others, that he faced major changes in his life and opened up to Sophie showing his weaknesses too. All those who talk about an abrupt ending where he goes from being a guy who fucks anyone, -which by the way is false because since he started his affair with Sophie he stopped doing that, continuing only sporadically with Amy with whom he had a deeper relationship- to a family man, simply didn't read the story or they did but don't understand it.
It's almost certain that Sophie doesn't know about the videos. In her pov you can see that she thinks only about her family. The one who sends the videos and pics is Zack, and the motivation for that I think can be simplified to: he enjoys doing it. He probably gets turned on knowing he's tormenting him. Zack always hated Felix since the beginning of the story, and one of the motivations for him trying to fuck Sophie is most likely that she was his wife, in addition to the other reasons he said during the game, being hot, innocent and so on.Maybe I didn't understand but what was the purpose 5 years later did he and Sophia sending Felix sex videos. Being a family man. What did I miss. Seems he was still a dick and she was a hoe.
I hope that is true. It would actually work well in future update. She finds out what he is doing to Felix and she gets pissed. Repercussions for what he's doing happen. Though I feel nate and Amy are unused assets. Especially since Nate likes him and Amy wanted to make it up to him. But I am sure that won't happen.It's almost certain that Sophie doesn't know about the videos. In her pov you can see that she thinks only about her family. The one who sends the videos and pics is Zack, and the motivation for that I think can be simplified to: he enjoys doing it. He probably gets turned on knowing he's tormenting him. Zack always hated Felix since the beginning of the story, and one of the motivations for him trying to fuck Sophie is most likely that she was his wife, in addition to the other reasons he said during the game, being hot, innocent and so on.
But his plan went “wrong” because during Sophie's seduction, the very fact that it was difficult to win her over and took months, made them get to know each other better, talking about the books they read, the shows they watch, their hobbies in general. And that's where Zack's plan to just fuck Sophie changed to something else. The love "trap" got him too. But the hate for Felix didn't vanish even after 5 years so you get the sex recordings and stuff sent to him.
i quote doctor House here "people dont change" specially not if there is nothing at least traumatic happening to them, meeting Sophie and fking the shit out of her is not a traumatic experience that will change his life...the writer try to make sense of this ending but he showed us who Zack is at the start of the game, and because of that all the shit that comes out of his mouth is a lie, BUT with this ending, the moment he marry Sophie, now we have to believe that all the obvious lies from before were not lies ... like every time he show himself vulnerable in front of Sophie those were supposed to be lies, cause he is manipulating her, but now those were true...he stop having sex with all the other women cause he is "hunting" not cause of love, that´s the thing, i dont know how the reader can believe that Zack was a decent guy, he does nothing to give me that impresion, like even at the last moment of that game i was in total disbelieve waiting for him just to dump her ass xDMany people don't read and skip dialogues. Even the guy a few posts ago who talked about a "bad" ending said that he skipped dialogues. And now he thinks he can give an opinion about the game.
In the last updates Zack showed, including the scene at the amusement park but also others, that he faced major changes in his life and opened up to Sophie showing his weaknesses too. All those who talk about an abrupt ending where he goes from being a guy who fucks anyone, -which by the way is false because since he started his affair with Sophie he stopped doing that, continuing only sporadically with Amy with whom he had a deeper relationship- to a family man, simply didn't read the story or they did but don't understand it.
YOU skipped the text apparently huh, Zack was the one to push Sophie to humiliate Felix in the first place and when the game is finished it will be by choice if she will indulge in that or notMaybe I didn't understand but what was the purpose 5 years later did he and Sophia sending Felix sex videos. Being a family man. What did I miss. Seems he was still a dick and she was a hoe.
A personal experience here a friend of mine was an alcoholic and a drug user then one day he had a kid, less than a month later he went to rehab now he is 6years sober is having a kid a traumatic experience loli quote doctor House here "people dont change" specially not if there is nothing at least traumatic happening to them, meeting Sophie and fking the shit out of her is not a traumatic experience that will change his life..
Nobody is saying Zach is a good/decent guy Zach is a bully, Zach is a narcissist but that does not mean he can't be a good father or a good husband he loves to hurt people but not his own family and friends and Sophie was his gf now wife while he have a very reasonable reason to hate Felix now being her ex-husbandi dont know how the reader can believe that Zack was a decent guy, he does nothing to give me that impresion, like even at the last moment of that game i was in total disbelieve waiting for him just to dump her ass xD
I don't think we'll get a continuation of this ending, but it would be interesting to know what Sophie would do if she knew about Zack's messages. Maybe she gets upset? Or horny. In my head Sophie totally forgot about Felix since there's no mention at all of him in her pov after the divorce. So all this is probably something just from Zack's side. With Amy we got a conclusion, she tried to help Felix but he told her to go away. Nate is interesting though... might be that he's Felix's lifeline.I hope that is true. It would actually work well in future update. She finds out what he is doing to Felix and she gets pissed. Repercussions for what he's doing happen. Though I feel nate and Amy are unused assets. Especially since Nate likes him and Amy wanted to make it up to him. But I am sure that won't happen.
Zack is young. I have personally seen people change a lot when falling in love. Ever had a friend who is always hanging out with people on weekends but as soon as he finds a woman he falls in love with, he stops completely and changes life? The same thing happens to women too. So I would say the drastic change is actually him falling in love. We can say that the twist is that when you thought he was lying to Sophie, he probably wasn't. People can not like this, but it's not absurd. Imagine going to a person that loves another one and telling them "It doesn't make sense you love her." Would be funny seeing the reactioni quote doctor House here "people dont change" specially not if there is nothing at least traumatic happening to them, meeting Sophie and fking the shit out of her is not a traumatic experience that will change his life...the writer try to make sense of this ending but he showed us who Zack is at the start of the game, and because of that all the shit that comes out of his mouth is a lie, BUT with this ending, the moment he marry Sophie, now we have to believe that all the obvious lies from before were not lies ... like every time he show himself vulnerable in front of Sophie those were supposed to be lies, cause he is manipulating her, but now those were true...he stop having sex with all the other women cause he is "hunting" not cause of love, that´s the thing, i dont know how the reader can believe that Zack was a decent guy, he does nothing to give me that impresion, like even at the last moment of that game i was in total disbelieve waiting for him just to dump her ass xD
4some with Nate/Amy & Zach/Sophie on the horizon maybe !We finally get a peek behind Brooks mask, I was quite right with my suspicions. We learn that he doesn’t really care about Felix and that he knew about the whole thing all along. Its implied that Brooks, Amy and Zach were all on this together.
It was surprising that Nate had crush on Amy, wasn’t he aiming at Danielle ? Or was that because Danielle refused him that he moved to Amy. Nevertheless now we know the string that will pull him into the whole thing.
Amy was not a friend then? good to know. Zach was not a redeemeable character, at least for me, if for u it was, gratz for enjoying the ending, i didnt, the reason i didnt was cause Zach was not a redeemeable character, it was not writed as such, for me, every moment that he is show vulnerable was a lie to try and manipulate Sophie, for me it was a character that at the end will go back to being Zach dump Sophie and go for the next target, that was zach, for u it was this Twiligh character, i was reading a NTR game...what can i say...my bad i got Zach wrong.A personal experience here a friend of mine was an alcoholic and a drug user then one day he had a kid, less than a month later he went to rehab now he is 6years sober is having a kid a traumatic experience lol
Nobody is saying Zach is a good/decent guy Zach is a bully, Zach is a narcissist but that does not mean he can't be a good father or a good husband he loves to hurt people but not his own family and friends and Sophie was his gf now wife while he have a very reasonable reason to hate Felix now being her ex-husband
ps: that's every girl Wattpad dream guy the bad boy that she can tame for her benefit and her offspring
It really feels like you and I were not playing the same game. The driving force behind all of the events in the game is that Zach is a psychopath that uses and manipulates people, unable to give a shit about anyone but himself, and getting off on ruining other people's lives. Everything else is clearly performative. I don't know how much time you've spent around these kinds of people in real life, but they don't "change". Not in the way the game demonstrates. They can alter the criteria of their performance, and respond to incentives and disincentives of the people around them, but they can't magically start falling in love and be a different person. The whole sending pictures thing at the end clearly shows that he hasn't. So how is everything the way it is? Yeah, Zach could performatively do everything he did until near the end, but he wouldn't 'hang around'. All of the reasons as to why he did the things he did (for his own pleasure and self aggrandizement) finish the moment the marriage implodes. He would not hang around, there would not be a happy marriage.People can not like this, but it's not absurd.
Where in the story does this scene causes significant consequences for either Sophie or Zach? It might as well not have happened at all and nothing would change.What about this reasons? The "perfect man" is a slut, huh?
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And is Sophie the only sadistic person, really? Nobody uploaded her pics on school's PC for Felix to see? Nobody was humiliating Felix here and there every time them 3 were in one room? Nobody shit-talked Felix when he found Zach and Sophie together?
I personally find it hilarious how almost everyone complaining about this ending are simplifying the story and than complain about their simplified image instead of real story. I guess all you disgusting people just clicked through all the text not reading it, just lurking for porn pictures, and that's the root of the issue
You’re right, I deleted the line soon after I posted it.This ending is bad for YOU. You should maybe specify it while writing, seems like you're speaking the truth when for me and many others it's a perfect ending.
The purpose is to have netorare scene in the update because it would lack one otherwise. Personally I would be fine if devs would shift amount of scenes in updates as they see fit rather than sticking to the quota but then certain users would jump and blame them for slacking and lying.Maybe I didn't understand but what was the purpose 5 years later did he and Sophia sending Felix sex videos. Being a family man. What did I miss. Seems he was still a dick and she was a hoe.
Not really. For long time it we had signs that Zach is falling for Sophie. We also do not know what makes Zach the way he was, what he was missing and just maybe he found that with Sophie.The writing was pointing in a completely different direction. And there was a LOT of exposition. Zack was presented as a totally manipulative narcissist, who cares only for himself. He was blackmailing and manipulating Brooks the entire game and there was a lot of narrative ink suggesting he was going to drop Sophie like a hot potato and disappear shortly after everything blew up.
I thought Brooks was going to get even for how Zack treated him. Instead, Brooks rewards Zack and Sophie both, which makes even less sense. Why give them a huge monetary payoff? Sophie got a Pretty Woman ending even though she treated Felix like a sadist.
Zach, meanwhile, became a responsible, professional basketball-playing puppy . . . who for some reason is still obsessed with tormenting Sophie's ex many, many years later. Why does he even spend a single second thinking about Felix? It made no sense.
I expected an outcome where Zack becomes a professional player, but also endlessly cheats on Sophie. Leopards like him don't suddenly change their spots.
Though Felix' ending is unsurprising, and to a degree apropos. . . suicide would have been a better outcome for him. His attitude toward Amy didn't make a whole lot of sense in the end. Though she enabled Sophie, it was still Sophie's choices.
The Dev built up this persona in Zack that suggested a bad end for Sophie and instead she gets rewarded for her cruelty. So, will she get a very bad end if she demonstrates any humanity? Probably. After this vomit inducing ending, I won't be around to find out.
It was like there was all of the build-up for who Zack is and who Sophie had become that ended in a finale worthy of Dexter or Lost. Disappointing.
Except they do. Sophie was changed by good dicking everyone is fine with that. But Zach falling in love and changing is impossible. People fall in love and it can change them drastically.i quote doctor House here "people dont change" specially not if there is nothing at least traumatic happening to them, meeting Sophie and fking the shit out of her is not a traumatic experience that will change his life...the writer try to make sense of this ending but he showed us who Zack is at the start of the game, and because of that all the shit that comes out of his mouth is a lie, BUT with this ending, the moment he marry Sophie, now we have to believe that all the obvious lies from before were not lies ... like every time he show himself vulnerable in front of Sophie those were supposed to be lies, cause he is manipulating her, but now those were true...he stop having sex with all the other women cause he is "hunting" not cause of love, that´s the thing, i dont know how the reader can believe that Zack was a decent guy, he does nothing to give me that impresion, like even at the last moment of that game i was in total disbelieve waiting for him just to dump her ass xD
Few people care for endings all that much. People are here for hot cheating sex .Even if the rest of the game is amazing (and this one isn't; it's passable at best), this ending is still a black mark.
We've all seen otherwise decent games and even series ruined because it ended badly.
I believe the point was for both outcomes to be plausible. So in one route you can have Zach failing in love and unwilling to share Sophie, and in the other he will just be in for kinky sex and will be ok with her sleeping with others.Amy was not a friend then? good to know. Zach was not a redeemeable character, at least for me, if for u it was, gratz for enjoying the ending, i didnt, the reason i didnt was cause Zach was not a redeemeable character, it was not writed as such, for me, every moment that he is show vulnerable was a lie to try and manipulate Sophie, for me it was a character that at the end will go back to being Zach dump Sophie and go for the next target, that was zach, for u it was this Twiligh character, i was reading a NTR game...what can i say...my bad i got Zach wrong.
Let's ignore the sings of Zach falling in love and stick to the part that 20ish guy is a seasoned manipulator that can't fall in love.It really feels like you and I were not playing the same game. The driving force behind all of the events in the game is that Zach is a psychopath that uses and manipulates people, unable to give a shit about anyone but himself, and getting off on ruining other people's lives. Everything else is clearly performative. I don't know how much time you've spent around these kinds of people in real life, but they don't "change". Not in the way the game demonstrates. They can alter the criteria of their performance, and respond to incentives and disincentives of the people around them, but they can't magically start falling in love and be a different person. The whole sending pictures thing at the end clearly shows that he hasn't. So how is everything the way it is? Yeah, Zach could performatively do everything he did until near the end, but he wouldn't 'hang around'. All of the reasons as to why he did the things he did (for his own pleasure and self aggrandizement) finish the moment the marriage implodes. He would not hang around, there would not be a happy marriage.
It is, very plainly, absurd.