mario1994

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Pretty much that... She isn't a character fit for Leo to begin with. He can lose his cherry with her and be done with it. She is too focused on material gains and looks instead of real feelings. So as a matchup they are terrible together. Leo might benefit from this relation as he will gain confidence and interest in opposite sex as well gain expirience with a woman/girl. Otherwise she isn't worth mentioning for Mc when he have multiple beautiful and far more interesting girls to choose from. Melena is more like side on a side character. Footnote and more like antagonist than anyone else. So I wouldn't be surprised if she did something bad to Leo or Mc or his girls in her fit of jealousy. To warrant a hate fuck and blackmail.
 

mario1994

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I really don't get why people are so desperate to have Melena have sex with mc. She's annoying and looks bland next to any of the actual LI's.
Personally I do not even wish to see her in this game, but otherwise I can't find real purpouse for her existance. She is bad match for Leo on multiple lvls. So I hope that they won't stay together unless she changes and actually loves Leo. Dude deserve better. Its just my idea of her future in this game. It might be completly different for all I care. I wouldn't feel anything if she was erased completly from the story and was only mentioned occasionally. There are far more interesting girls and women to choose from and too little time dev can give them already as it stands. Dude needs real team od dedicated artists to churn out updates at faster pace.
 

Alandir

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Pretty much that... She isn't a character fit for Leo to begin with. He can lose his cherry with her and be done with it. She is too focused on material gains and looks instead of real feelings. So as a matchup they are terrible together. Leo might benefit from this relation as he will gain confidence and interest in opposite sex as well gain expirience with a woman/girl. Otherwise she isn't worth mentioning for Mc when he have multiple beautiful and far more interesting girls to choose from. Melena is more like side on a side character. Footnote and more like antagonist than anyone else. So I wouldn't be surprised if she did something bad to Leo or Mc or his girls in her fit of jealousy. To warrant a hate fuck and blackmail.
Or, you know, she can just be off doing stuff with Leo somewhere else. Far, far away from the mc and his girls. She's annoying, Leo's annoying. They can just be annoying by themselves and we don't have to spent dev time and screentime on a character that's just inferior in every way to the 12(!) character's that we already have.
 

envyNox

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I wouldn't be surprised if Leo's fake performance came to light and Mc needed to step in his shoes to please Melena in Leo's stead. That was my take from this whole interaction. Even if Leo got help from this potion/oinment he wouldn't be able to keep up the same lvl of satisfaction from her by his skill alone. Leo as Mc's best "friend" would have seen or heard certain things about mc to convince himself that there is no one better than him at pleasing women that he could ask for help and trust him. Either that or Leo will be defeated by her unsatible sex drive and will ask for help from his friend in taming the beast. Leo is in his youth. Has games and stories in his mind. Not girls and sex. So I wouldn't be surprised if he was interested but not that interested to choose her over games and other hobbies... etc. Either way. Leo might get cucked and be even alright with it. I mean.. Netorare is the opposite of Netori. Mc will do Netori, Leo will feel on his skin what Netorare means. Both are fetishes.
Finally a good idea :coffee:
 
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Dogorti

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Or, you know, she can just be off doing stuff with Leo somewhere else. Far, far away from the mc and his girls. She's annoying, Leo's annoying. They can just be annoying by themselves and we don't have to spent dev time and screentime on a character that's just inferior in every way to the 12(!) character's that we already have.
Well that's what the dev said he would do.
 

mario1994

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Honestly just a blind guess perhaps it’s because his crush on Catherine i believe first day of y school (the one he currently in) and she didn't like that so started bullying him because he said they marry or he agreed to marry her can't remember which then gets a crush on some else and some extra evidence is that Julia said can't remember the exact words but basically that she developed early beyond her years that kinda thing so she likely took the marriage idea seriously and felt betrayed. On I think day 2 where they get put into groups she clearly hates Catherine likely partly blames her but mainly blames Mc for betraying her. But I'm not 100% sure likely got some things wrong or it's more complex than that but we will find out in a month or two so not that long and we should get an answer. Feel free to correct or add anything as I'd like to know
Pretty much spot on. She developed feelings for Mc early on. He played with her and joked propably about getting married. For her it wasn't a play or a joke. More like a promise. He clearly didn't think of it as anything but a play/game and show of his affection but not love for her. She not only found out that he loves another girl. He actually forgotten about said promise. He became a wimp she can bully and not a heroic kid that stood his ground when he protected her. She developed faster. Grew taller than him. Was stronger. He became this wimpy kid everyone bully. So instead of helping him. She chose to bully him and she waited for him to stand up against her and to became her idol from memories. She just didn't understand how he could forget, get so weak and wimpy and fall for another girl. Her dissapointment turned into anger and love turned into hatred. She couldn't menage her emotions well. So she lashed out on him for not understanding her. Typical woman behaviour. Its his fault that he can't read minds.
 

mario1994

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Or, you know, she can just be off doing stuff with Leo somewhere else. Far, far away from the mc and his girls. She's annoying, Leo's annoying. They can just be annoying by themselves and we don't have to spent dev time and screentime on a character that's just inferior in every way to the 12(!) character's that we already have.
True.. it might be a good idea to actually get rid of annoying character without completly erasing him from the story and actually focus on those that actually matter. Still.. as a best friend of mc we can't simply forget that he exists. He still needs to be in classes. School and meet up from time to time. He still is the.. best friend. At least this way dev have an excuse to erase Leo completly from some events.
 

lorkdubo

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Yeah, I know. It's a good choice.
I just don't get why people keep arguing to give her more screen time and even sex scenes, especially when they agree that she is an annoying character.
I mean, people didn't want the threesome (extra) scene with the bitchy classmates. Instead, there is the Jacky masturbation scene.
 

Alandir

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Honestly just a blind guess perhaps it’s because his crush on Catherine i believe first day of y school (the one he currently in) and she didn't like that so started bullying him because he said they marry or he agreed to marry her can't remember which then gets a crush on some else and some extra evidence is that Julia said can't remember the exact words but basically that she developed early beyond her years that kinda thing so she likely took the marriage idea seriously and felt betrayed. On I think day 2 where they get put into groups she clearly hates Catherine likely partly blames her but mainly blames Mc for betraying her. But I'm not 100% sure likely got some things wrong or it's more complex than that but we will find out in a month or two so not that long and we should get an answer. Feel free to correct or add anything as I'd like to know
That's basically my take on things, that I had for quite a while.
Mc and Vic as childhood friends spend a lot of time together, competing and playfighting often. Vic starts to adore mc more and more as he keeps beating her in their competitions and her respect for him grows larger larger. She mentally grows up faster than him and makes him promise to marry her in the future. She is more grown up and is IN LOVE with him so she takes it seriously. He is still mentally a child that can't really tell the difference between friendship and love so he doesn't take it seriously.
Much later they start their new school together, mc meets cathrine and falls for her. He sees Vic as his best friend so he tells her and she gets furious, because she sees it as a betrayal of their promise.
As mc grows up, he becomes more and more of a pervert, openly staring at all the girls. Vic sees that and it only serves to make her even angrier at him. At some point she starts to bully him, which starts a vicious cycle.
Vic's bullying makes mc feel weak -> he becomes more meek, becomes more of a loner and flees more and more into videogames and porn. -> Vic sees Mc's weaker self as a mockery of the person she fell in love with and who she looked up to -> Vic becomes even more angry -> Vic bullies mc even harder -> repeat.
 

Master of Puppets

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That's basically my take on things, that I had for quite a while.
Mc and Vic as childhood friends spend a lot of time together, competing and playfighting often. Vic starts to adore mc more and more as he keeps beating her in their competitions and her respect for him grows larger larger. She mentally grows up faster than him and makes him promise to marry her in the future. She is more grown up and is IN LOVE with him so she takes it seriously. He is still mentally a child that can't really tell the difference between friendship and love so he doesn't take it seriously.
Much later they start their new school together, mc meets cathrine and falls for her. He sees Vic as his best friend so he tells her and she gets furious, because she sees it as a betrayal of their promise.
As mc grows up, he becomes more and more of a pervert, openly staring at all the girls. Vic sees that and it only serves to make her even angrier at him. At some point she starts to bully him, which starts a vicious cycle.
Vic's bullying makes mc feel weak -> he becomes more meek, becomes more of a loner and flees more and more into videogames and porn. -> Vic sees Mc's weaker self as a mockery of the person she fell in love with and who she looked up to -> Vic becomes even more angry -> Vic bullies mc even harder -> repeat.
That seems like it, though personally I wouldn't call a child taking another child talking about marrying her seriously a sign of maturity. Quite the opposite. "When we were six you promised to marry me and I'm going to hold you to that" is not grown-up behaviour.
 

falco256

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bro is really trying to add fuel to the fire lmao:ROFLMAO:
nah, throwing fuel into the fire would be pointing out that he's currently getting cucked in RL by the several billion other males on the planet, and that his dad regularly cucked him by bumping uglies with his mother.

but hey, we're not evil to outright say something like that to someone who's already so blatantly fragile...
 

WolftheAlpha

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That's basically my take on things, that I had for quite a while.
Mc and Vic as childhood friends spend a lot of time together, competing and playfighting often. Vic starts to adore mc more and more as he keeps beating her in their competitions and her respect for him grows larger larger. She mentally grows up faster than him and makes him promise to marry her in the future. She is more grown up and is IN LOVE with him so she takes it seriously. He is still mentally a child that can't really tell the difference between friendship and love so he doesn't take it seriously.
Much later they start their new school together, mc meets cathrine and falls for her. He sees Vic as his best friend so he tells her and she gets furious, because she sees it as a betrayal of their promise.
As mc grows up, he becomes more and more of a pervert, openly staring at all the girls. Vic sees that and it only serves to make her even angrier at him. At some point she starts to bully him, which starts a vicious cycle.
Vic's bullying makes mc feel weak -> he becomes more meek, becomes more of a loner and flees more and more into videogames and porn. -> Vic sees Mc's weaker self as a mockery of the person she fell in love with and who she looked up to -> Vic becomes even more angry -> Vic bullies mc even harder -> repeat.
I feel like that’s all correct but I also think it’s a big part jealously because he used to only look at her even if for not in a loving or sexual way then he see Catherine falls in love/crushes on her then even looks at other girls. I feel like the part about him getting weaker not like he used to be is true but I think it’s more than that as I remember fairly well she said during there race something like “he is always like this suddenly he’s better than me again no this time you look up to me” I’m gonna guess she does want him to be strong but still wants to be stronger/looked up to but that’s likely what she thinks she wants at least in the corrpution route she very likely gonna be a sub and like it. But I'm playing through the game again for the next update to double check stuff and to see if I missed anything but I don't think we know enough to be sure of much yet unless it is as simple as we think which is fine if so complicated doesn't equal good after all (ps she also called Stephanie stinkystepi for seemingly no reason other than she friends with mc and she isn't anymore this was before she saw them hold hands and go home together so likely another case of jealousy.
 
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