VN Ren'Py Twisted Memories [v0.9b] [BaiBai]

[justonemore20]

a retreat is a retreat no matter what kind of "view mode" you assign it is still a step back

¿Why do people think that things should be static?, ¿that improvements can't be made without ruining things or being because of censorship?, ¿what if at some point the game had a 2 years timeskip and it was then that baibai added the changes?, ¿would you complain that the timeskip was the author's way to retreat, even if it had plot reasons?.

¿Would you like a game where a scranny MC went to the gym but his body never improved, since you dislike changes and think of them as steps back?. No, the problem is not changes, ¿right?. It is not step backs either since baibai already clarify that. The problem is that the loli is now less loli because she is 10 cm taller. Nothing in the relationship apart from that was changed, nor her actual age, nor her being the youngest, nor her being seen as "too young to date" nor the way she is treated, only her height because of circumstances and preferences of the author for their game.

But it is a downgrade, since you guys don't like her being less loli by being a little taller and having slightly bigger breasts, ¿right?.

At this point you guys are just trying to force your preferences on the game's author.

 

[RG80100]

I like the Emi before and also the one of now, honestly except for the breasts it's not really noticeable and then here when it talks about her it's mostly to complain about her attitude, so what do you care about her size?

 

[Tankill]

What bothered me wasn't because it was Emi, regardless of who the character is, any change looks visually strange if you play in a linear way (from the beginning), changing a character from one day to the next is different, whether it's the size of the breasts, or the skin tone of a character.

If a time-skip is planned, do it, but the way it was implemented was, in my opinion, a RETREAT in the quality of details that had been presented.

I also believe that I made a comment entirely about my opinion, why all this bother? It's really ridiculous the way it seems that not agreeing with the majority of the topic is criminal.

 

[justonemore20]

What bothered me wasn't because it was Emi, regardless of who the character is, any change looks visually strange if you play in a linear way (from the beginning), changing a character from one day to the next is different, whether it's the size of the breasts, or the skin tone of a character.

If a time-skip is planned, do it, but the way it was implemented was, in my opinion, a RETREAT in the quality of details that had been presented.

I also believe that I made a comment entirely about my opinion, why all this bother? It's really ridiculous the way it seems that not agreeing with the majority of the topic is criminal.

It is not criminal for you to have an opinion of your own, hell I said basically that there are people of all kinds of opinion in the world and that i was okay with the changes that you weren't in my first message. The problem was that you dismissed that in your response by basically saying "Nah, it is a retreat regardless of how you see it". If you want people to value your opinion even if it contradicts their own, don't go dismissing their opinions.

Also I kinda lumped you together with the person that keeps yelling "CENSORSHIP THIS, CENSORSHIP THAT" even after receiving a response from the game's author, but since I don't know how to make multiple quotes yet, I only replied to you since you were the one who replied to me and it seems you agree with him/her.

That is why I mentioned the censorship thing in my response, it was meant to both of you since it seen like you were on the same boat.

The funny part about this is that back then when a saw the changes I noticed them too and took a photo of emily before and after in the exact same spot and posted it here showing the differences. But then I got an answer from baibai where they explained why they did it, how the previous heights brought problems and didn't fit with what they wanted for the story and that at some point they would rework the old renders to add the changes, and I was happy with that and accepted it since I like the game and it was the author's words.

Meanwhile you and "censored guy/girl" just keep repiting that they are retreats, excuses, and basically that you know better than the author of the freaking game regardless of what they say, ¿what kind of response did you think you would get from that?

 

[colobancuz]

It is not criminal for you to have an opinion of your own, hell I said basically that there are people of all kinds of opinion in the world and that i was okay with the changes that you weren't in my first message. The problem was that you dismissed that in your response by basically saying "Nah, it is a retreat regardless of how you see it". If you want people to value your opinion even if it contradicts their own, don't go dismissing their opinions.

Also I kinda lumped you together with the person that keeps yelling "CENSORSHIP THIS, CENSORSHIP THAT" even after receiving a response from the game's author, but since I don't know how to make multiple quotes yet, I only replied to you since you were the one who replied to me and it seems you agree with him/her.

That is why I mentioned the censorship thing in my response, it was meant to both of you since it seen like you were on the same boat.

The funny part about this is that back then when a saw the changes I noticed them too and took a photo of emily before and after in the exact same spot and posted it here showing the differences. But then I got an answer from baibai where they explained why they did it, how the previous heights brought problems and didn't fit with what they wanted for the story and that at some point they would rework the old renders to add the changes, and I was happy with that and accepted it since I like the game and it was the author's words.

Meanwhile you and "censored guy/girl" just keep repiting that they are retreats, excuses, and basically that you know better than the author of the freaking game regardless of what they say, ¿what kind of response did you think you would get from that?

Bro, just ignore him (and that other one). Let them enjoy their opinions and how they ‘beat’ everyone here.

 

[justonemore20]

Bro, just ignore him (and that other one). Let them enjoy their opinions and how they ‘beat’ everyone here.

Yeah, I'll do that. Lets talk about something more pleasing, like how much is the MC going to cuck Aden (oh you poor bitch boy) next update. ¿Is it going to be just the presentation of the final Li or is there going to be a little progress with her from the start since it is already way into the game?

 

[RG80100]

If a time-skip is planned, do it, but the way it was implemented was, in my opinion, a RETREAT in the quality of details that had been presented.

Baibai has already explained why he had to change certain sizes, precisely to avoid quality problems (the MC too small when he was sitting on a chair, for example, or to avoid making the boobjob scene with Emily look ridiculous). Before, he had to change sizes in certain renders, which was a waste of time. Instead of doing and undoing each time, he chose to change certain sizes once and for all.

 

[Xythurr]

Baibai has already explained why he had to change certain sizes, precisely to avoid quality problems (the MC too small when he was sitting on a chair, for example, or to avoid making the boobjob scene with Emily look ridiculous). Before, he had to change sizes in certain renders, which was a waste of time. Instead of doing and undoing each time, he chose to change certain sizes once and for all.

He also said he was having to constantly change their size scene by scene already which added a ton of work.

 

[BaiBai_]

He also said he was having to constantly change their size scene by scene already which added a ton of work.

Not sure I said that exactly, scaling a model up or down actually goes rather quick. I think my reasoning was more so in terms of consistency and that I decided to rather have one big inconsistency between v0.8 and v0.9 instead of keeping the small inconsistency's going on indefinitely.

 

[Xythurr]

Not just her, pretty much all characters that where smaller than Alyvia have increased in height between v0.8 and v0.9. In general the heights have been pretty messed up from the beginning of the game and for the most part I scaled them up and down on a render to render basis depending on whom they stood next to so that it doesn't look to weird. I just fixed that after v0.8 for more consistency.

Here ya go but fair enough. I guess I misunderstood your reasoning for the change.

 

[Maulis47]

What bothered me wasn't because it was Emi, regardless of who the character is, any change looks visually strange if you play in a linear way (from the beginning), changing a character from one day to the next is different, whether it's the size of the breasts, or the skin tone of a character.

If a time-skip is planned, do it, but the way it was implemented was, in my opinion, a RETREAT in the quality of details that had been presented.

This IS still in development and the dev said they will fix it eventually.

 

[Jeycii_]

I havent been here for months.. but I like how the posts here are still full of long ass essays debating about "small" stuff.
*prays for update*

 

[Mark17]

Spoiler

Cute!

 

[jvbatman]

Not sure I said that exactly, scaling a model up or down actually goes rather quick. I think my reasoning was more so in terms of consistency and that I decided to rather have one big inconsistency between v0.8 and v0.9 instead of keeping the small inconsistency's going on indefinitely.

Well now we have to make up some other false bit of information to get unreasonably upset about. Thanks.

 

[shitass1001]

Well now we have to make up some other false bit of information to get unreasonably upset about. Thanks.

I remember Baibai saying somewhere it was all a dream and that they arent related and the best friend is going to end up with everyone

 

[Tankill]

This is not an open site, it's a club for cuckolds, was my comment offensive? Oh my God, even

 

[jI11jaCksjAkk]

Not sure I said that exactly, scaling a model up or down actually goes rather quick. I think my reasoning was more so in terms of consistency and that I decided to rather have one big inconsistency between v0.8 and v0.9 instead of keeping the small inconsistency's going on indefinitely.

I think that's what all the fuss was about - the smol inconsistency. Tip your waitresses!

 

[Xythurr]

I think that's what all the fuss was about - the smol inconsistency. View attachment 4862660 Tip your waitresses!

Such a silly thing to be up in arms about imo. Babbai laid out his reasoning and it wasn't because of the "censorship" boogeyman or whatever.
For someone who is still learning the ropes of AVN creation dude is doing a better job than most of the other artist on this site.

 

[shitass1001]

Such a silly thing to be up in arms about imo. Babbai laid out his reasoning and it wasn't because of the "censorship" boogeyman or whatever.

Even if it was because of censorship I wouldn't have a problem with it. It's so weird to me how this exploded twice in this thread over this, I didn't even notice the change until it was pointed out

 

[Xythurr]

Even if it was because of censorship I wouldn't have a problem with it. It's so weird to me how this exploded twice in this thread over this, I didn't even notice the change until it was pointed out

It's not even unbelievable as I stated in my comment about growth spurts (Which somehow offended someone I guess because it was deleted by a mod for some reason) given their age.
Hell my first girlfriend at age 12 was VERY well developed. People need to chill.

EDIT: I'm obviously talking about back when I was 12 as well....damn it shitass lol.