VN Ren'Py Twisted Memories [v0.9b] [BaiBai]

[Dogorti]

This is a piracy forum and the "damage" it does is usually pretty minimal

of course it is. but if the dev releases free updates, you can always wait, I understand more that they get leaked on the same day when the dev does not release public updates, but this is not the case, and this is early access after all.

 

[dolfe67]

I agree 100%. I really want to play the update but what's the point on subscribing if the game is available for free in the exact same day? Devs who make these great games deserves to make a living from them

The point is to support the dev and the project. I can't support everyone so I pirate most of the games but I support a dozen games long term and buy some updates of other ones (but no more than $10)

 

[DicksInSpace]

The point is to support the dev and the project. I can't support everyone so I pirate most of the games but I support a dozen games long term and buy some updates of other ones (but no more than $10)

Yeah, effect of piracy is usually pretty minimal unless they are a really small developer

 

[Dogorti]

Yeah, effect of piracy is usually pretty minimal unless they are a really small developer

I don't know what you think but 300 is not many subscribers. Leaking updates doesn't hurt a guy like Caribdis that much, but it does for those who are just starting out.

 

[Luxiferus]

The point is to support the dev and the project.

And I completely agree with that but it's also true that the more benefits you give to subscribers you will have more of them. I'm not saying "pay for every game you play", each one knows how much want/can spend, just want the dev can make some money for their job and that is more difficult if your game gets leaked almost instantly after you release the update

 

[dolfe67]

I don't know what you think but 300 is not many subscribers. Leaking updates doesn't hurt a guy like Caribdis that much, but it does for those who are just starting out.

That's a fallacy about piracy that major companies spread. Do you really think every pirate would buy the game if piracy didn't exist? I don't think so, they would just do something else or wait for a free version

 

[PoopyButtface113]

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[DicksInSpace]

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share update and i'll figure it out

 

[Dogorti]

That's a fallacy about piracy that major companies spread. Do you really think every pirate would buy the game if piracy didn't exist? I don't think so, they would just do something else or wait for a free version

I don't know what big companies have to do with the piracy of this site, they are two very different types of piracy considering that in one their piracy consists of a ramdom subscribing to an amateur content creator and then sharing that update on this forum because he feels generous or because he wants some coomers to tell him that he is a hero. In any case, I do think that it can affect at first, if your game is usually good, people will subscribe yes, but if your update is constantly leaked, many people will stop subscribing because they do not see the need, many do not think like I do that subscribing It serves to support a dev.

 

[Dogorti]

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can you put the spoiler eh? It's there for something, it's not for decoration, I swear.

 

[dolfe67]

but if your update is constantly leaked, many people will stop subscribing because they do not see the need,

My point is I don't think they would have subbed in the first place whatever they could say to to feel better.

 

[Dogorti]

My point is I don't think they would have subbed in the first place whatever they could say to to feel better.

Sure, of course the broke guys will never subscribe, but there are people who will have the money but don't see the need to subscribe if the update is constantly leaking. After all, we all like free things.

 

[PoopyButtface113]

can you put the spoiler eh? It's there for something, it's not for decoration, I swear.

Sorry, I'm on mobile and I don't really use forums much, how do I do that

 

[adultUser]

you add [spoiler]content here[/spoiler] text around it

 

[Dogorti]

Sorry, I'm on mobile and I don't really use forums much, how do I do that

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[PoopyButtface113]

Got it, sorry about that

 

[mentosa]

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This scene is from Steph Seduction path. It is a

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scene, Steph needs to be comfortable enough to allow it to happen at this stage, that is why it's in the seduction path.

 

[Kansier]

Wait this dev barely have 300 supporters? He should have a 1k already... Damn I hope he gains at least 100 supporters from this update.

 

[DicksInSpace]

Wait this dev barely have 300 supporters? He should have a 1k already... Damn I hope he gains at least 100 supporters from this update.

Considering he apparently mostly works on it during the weekend he probably has another occupation so not clambering for the crowdfunding money

 

[-Maniackanime-]

Mere 2 weeks is but just a flash for a worker n' gamer. I can wait, i'm patient.

The point is to support the dev and the project. I can't support everyone so I pirate most of the games but I support a dozen games long term and buy some updates of other ones (but no more than $10)

Agreed, Baibai's marketing could use a little work, cause one needs to understand that he gets a lot of traffic and he isn't making use of that to gain money effectively.

I mean 5 dollars but still you have to wait 1 week? Might as well wait, that's what everyone would think. I mean it might it's probably gonna get leaked in 1 week, it ain't so worth it.

10 dollars to get instant access? Well it's an obvious choice to just subscribe to this....

But is this just it? No room for improvement?

Well obviously there is a problem in the early access date, at most 5 dollars should be 3 days-6 days wait and 10 dollars is for instant access. There is always a risk in leakage and and some would always think that there would be no need to even subscribe.

But that's not even the whole point, in this type of business little medium prices but a large amount of subscribers is where the money is at!
So there is a need to maintain customer satisfaction. Make it seem like its worth it to pay, as this game is really worth it.

Hypothetically speaking, a 5 dollar subscriber, played the game in a leaked source before the week. Now does he feel like his got his money's worth?

Again Hypothetically speaking, if there would be no leakage, 2 weeks passed, all is well, some was probably forced to subscribe due to no self control. It's a happy end right?
He got some good amount of money, all should work out. But next update, there's a leak. What would happen then?

The priority should always be getting loyal subscribers. And have a healthy amount of tier option that is optional like the 25 dollars subscriber for those who can afford it, and pay for it cause they love the game...
look at big games such as The Manor, My Pig Princess, The pilgrimage, Race of life and more as you can see, Real money comes from loyal fans who want to see game developers succeed and effectively sustain them. Even without constant update they get a good amount of money.
Short term profit like this creates problems.