both of you seem to be taking this a bit too seriously it’s a game and a porn one at that. Pretty sure it’s not meant to be realistic considering he basically goes back in time and let’s be honest if it went at a realistic or at least as realistically as it could for a porn game pace it would takes weeks or most likely months in-game time to get any real sex content and considering each update is a day and it takes around 3-4 months per update we would be here for a fucking long time and no one wants to wait that long because that’s one of the main reasons any of us play the game if we wanted a more realistic story read a book or play a normal game a movie damn near anything but a porn game. For your own sanity suspend your disbelief and enjoy it for what it is or move on to something that suits you better. Considering its a porn game it's developing story I think is a decent pace considering what happens between characters. I genuinely can't possibly think of a good way for a solo dev to make a porn game with a realistic story for this type of story (a harem incest one) without it taking years in real-time and keep getting support (money) you either have too high expectations or you are delusional seems more like you don't quite get what this game is and believe it's something else or want it to be something that it isn't and never will be. But I'm gonna leave it there once again I recommend you enjoy it for what it is or move on is it perfect no could it be better yes but it's a solo dev first game as far as I am aware, not full-time It's a porn game I believe he/she has done great so far and seems to only be getting better.
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Dogorti
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I think that people exaggerate with the realism in incest, it doesn't have to take years to develop a relationship of that kind, in any case I think that this dev does this content much better than most games, I mean in most incest games the family don't even feel like a family and it's just a gimmick to attract an audience, I think this game shows how to make incest content with good pace and at the same time not be a fuckfest. kudos to the dev for that.
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Ignoring realism or not even doing a full seduction (theoretically less lewd/degenerate) playthrough the mom is already at the point where she is fingering herself to completion while MC fucks Steph for hours on end. Some people really are "no scenes with MC = no content/no progression/MilKINg?!1?!" 
Edit: Probably think that box actually has taxes in there too huh?
Edit: Probably think that box actually has taxes in there too huh?
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This. In most western titles, I won't say all, that deal with incest....it happens near instantly. The moms just has to see MC dick once and suddenly any motherly love becomes lust, older sisters usually starts out a bitch and offers the most resistance but still falls pretty fast even when she has a boyfriend and younger sisters most of the time already wants the MC from the get go.
JP games are usually no better, their games it's tend to be a coin flip. The girls are either instantly after MC's cock or you have to work hard at convincing them. And honestly, it's not that far-fetched. In relationships, idealistically you have to build trust and get to know each other before the female partner decides to open up her legs. With incest titles, I mean....you can skip that. They've already known each other for years. It's the same with childhood friend troupes. They can skip the get to know each other phase and even the building trust phase, it's just a matter of if their feelings align (whether it's love or lust doesn't really matter).
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like you both are looking at the same cloud and just disagree on what it looks like. Romeo and Juliet lived in a different time period, their families hated each other and as far as I remember they were not related. They had different barriers to overcome than the characters in this story.
While things are happening fast, the characters have been well established and have been developing constantly thanks to how full every day has been.
While I would agree that it's been maybe a little too fast in terms of days, I wouldn't agree that it's been too fast for the amount of content that each day contains. There is a disconnect where it feels like the characters don't take enough time to think and sort out their feelings, there is also the fact that most of them are still young and don't know how to even go about it.
As for the whole "game" talk, I don't really think either of you disagree with each other but are arguing different things. The MC was overweight before he went back in time. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with heavier people but he had no confidence in his appearance. His time with prostitutes taught him how to please a woman, but not how to seduce them as it was a transaction and not picking them up. However he worked in a store before, and while it's not stated what his actual job was (unless it did and I forgot) I think we can assume he had a retail job. Part of dealing with customers is diffusing tense situations, trying to get them to buy more, and convincing them to come back. He learned how to read the room, and come across as helpful, and in a sense, learned how to manipulate people. Seduction is a form of manipulation, and being young again gave him the self confidence to try it. (Of course the
Hope this helped bridge the gap a little
That's exactly what I'm saying. There are narrative barriers that are constructed and then have to be addressed somehow through the course of the story. That's narrative pacing. The particulars of those barriers don't matter, they just have to be salient and addressable through some sort of rhetorical approach.Correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like you both are looking at the same cloud and just disagree on what it looks like. Romeo and Juliet lived in a different time period, their families hated each other and as far as I remember they were not related. They had different barriers to overcome than the characters in this story.
While things are happening fast, the characters have been well established and have been developing constantly thanks to how full every day has been.
While I would agree that it's been maybe a little too fast in terms of days, I wouldn't agree that it's been too fast for the amount of content that each day contains. There is a disconnect where it feels like the characters don't take enough time to think and sort out their feelings, there is also the fact that most of them are still young and don't know how to even go about it.
As for the whole "game" talk, I don't really think either of you disagree with each other but are arguing different things. The MC was overweight before he went back in time. I'm not saying there is anything wrong with heavier people but he had no confidence in his appearance. His time with prostitutes taught him how to please a woman, but not how to seduce them as it was a transaction and not picking them up. However he worked in a store before, and while it's not stated what his actual job was (unless it did and I forgot) I think we can assume he had a retail job. Part of dealing with customers is diffusing tense situations, trying to get them to buy more, and convincing them to come back. He learned how to read the room, and come across as helpful, and in a sense, learned how to manipulate people. Seduction is a form of manipulation, and being young again gave him the self confidence to try it. (Of course thekickstandgiant penis helped too lol) While it's not a perfect explanation that's how I interpreted it anyways, and I could very well have gotten it wrong.
Hope this helped bridge the gap a little
And also you can develop social skills that can be leveraged into seduction as well, which you seem to clearly grasp unlike my interlocutor. Also you grasp that the goal of the story isn't realism. Nor is it in Romeo and Juliet, or most other works of fiction. There has to be some aspect that is relatable to an extent, but it doesn't have to map onto the common experience in a realistic way.
BaiBai is not a great writer. But they do understand rhetoric and exposition, and know how to apply themes and motifs to reinforce a coherent narrative. I was just trying to explain how those map onto the story as it exists, but Corvus Belli is trying to construct some realistic framework based on their presuppositions that don't even map onto the narrative structure of the story while refusing to fully engage with the source material.
I'm not taking this particularly seriously, but when I'm reading something where the writer at least tries to make an effort at establishing a coherent rhetorical strategy, I'll take note and defend them on at least that point, whatever else I think of their writing. That's all I'm doing here. Not particularly invested either way but I enjoy at least engaging in substantive critiques that rarely comes up on this site, even if it gets heated at times. I'd much rather engage on this sort of front than the usual BS that clogs up threads and I appreciate the discussion even if Corvus and I don't see eye-to-eye on most of the points raised.
One thing we can all agree on I think is that BaiBai engages in criminal degrees of bombast lol.
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Development Showcase 1/3
Alright, as I was making this post it turned out that Subscribestar has a limit of 20 attachments per post. This kind of sucks but for now I just split the showcase into 3 parts. For next time I will look for a better way to do this.
I don't want too bother you with too much text in these showcases and let the images speak for themselves instead. Accordingly, lets start with most relevant parts for v0.9: The inside of Viktorias and Julias home.
As I said in the last development update, I probably overdid it a bit with the kitchen. Here is a little video to show you what I meant. I normally don't like bragging, but I'm almost certain that you won't see stuff like that in any other honey select game.
Alright, as I was making this post it turned out that Subscribestar has a limit of 20 attachments per post. This kind of sucks but for now I just split the showcase into 3 parts. For next time I will look for a better way to do this.
I don't want too bother you with too much text in these showcases and let the images speak for themselves instead. Accordingly, lets start with most relevant parts for v0.9: The inside of Viktorias and Julias home.
As I said in the last development update, I probably overdid it a bit with the kitchen. Here is a little video to show you what I meant. I normally don't like bragging, but I'm almost certain that you won't see stuff like that in any other honey select game.
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Damn, other games is like try open a drawer picks up entire kitchen but this fully functional kitchen
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Development Showcase 2/3
Next lets get to the revisited neighborhood map of Viktorias home. I ended up adding quite a big part to it after all. The reasoning was that I wasn't happy with the view you had from the upper parts of the map (and what is vertical map making worth without some nice views) and some changes in the script which relocated parts of Viktorias scenes. In any case, here are a few comparison shots to show what has been remade as well as some stand alone ones for the new parts of the map.
Next lets get to the revisited neighborhood map of Viktorias home. I ended up adding quite a big part to it after all. The reasoning was that I wasn't happy with the view you had from the upper parts of the map (and what is vertical map making worth without some nice views) and some changes in the script which relocated parts of Viktorias scenes. In any case, here are a few comparison shots to show what has been remade as well as some stand alone ones for the new parts of the map.
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Please tell us there will be a sex scene with her in cheerleader outfit at least by the end of game if not this next update be evil not too. Not sure if I’ve said in the past as I rarely post anywhere love the game. Can’t wait for the future updates.
Baibai playing into my likes again, I just hope a cheerleader outfit plays into a scene sooner or later.
Also are the guys still arguing how much rizz you would need to get a BJ from your sister or did they accept that this is a porn game with a porn plot and some suspension of disbelief is required.
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It would be a crime not to do it. I can't promise you anything about when it will happen though.
Viktoria is a cheerleader?
EXTREME JOCK BREEDING URGES ACTIVATED!!!
EXTREME JOCK BREEDING URGES ACTIVATED!!!
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She is perhaps the hottest girl of the lot, really hoping to see her in her uniform soon even if we have to wait a bit more to fuck her in it.
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i feel sorry for vick having a crush or in love with her childhood friend and being scared of his reaction if you told him and if he doesn't feel the same way it would crush you but not telling him has already crushed you because he is with someone else and you feel terrible because it could be you with him if you had the courage to tell him how you felt, i'm looking foward to the next update to feel how it all plays out.
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