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> ... this is scary to me. Missis Clements date is on v0.13 (pd thursday), more than a year from now if nothing changes.

Yeah, setting the day for the date so early was a mistake. I probably should have waited to do that until like 1 or 2 updates before it actually happens.

> ... As long as he doesn't do something very annoying and go back to redo previous chapters, I don't see the issue.

Although temping at times, I won't redo anything that's already in the game until I have nothing new to make.
With all due respect (and I mean that sincerely) I think it's a mistake to start managing expectations by not promising something. People will have their expectations just by extrapolating from the structure of the game (like I'm eagerly waiting for Julia's role/progression in v09 and missis Clements on v0.10) either way. I only shared my concern with the development speed, and I know it's only a few people in the fanbase that are concerned about it.

I think's a great idea to NOT redo the old content (unless it's severely lacking / bug-like). Thank you for that. :)
 

mario1994

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I don't have a strong opinion either way on the Leo/Melena thing, but it does pose questions. She's not attracted to Leo. She was horny under the influence of the potion. Will she catch feelings on her own? Will MC need to keep up the ruse or bring Leo in on the potions, and be a constant supplier?
I wouldn't be surprised if Leo's fake performance came to light and Mc needed to step in his shoes to please Melena in Leo's stead. That was my take from this whole interaction. Even if Leo got help from this potion/oinment he wouldn't be able to keep up the same lvl of satisfaction from her by his skill alone. Leo as Mc's best "friend" would have seen or heard certain things about mc to convince himself that there is no one better than him at pleasing women that he could ask for help and trust him. Either that or Leo will be defeated by her unsatible sex drive and will ask for help from his friend in taming the beast. Leo is in his youth. Has games and stories in his mind. Not girls and sex. So I wouldn't be surprised if he was interested but not that interested to choose her over games and other hobbies... etc. Either way. Leo might get cucked and be even alright with it. I mean.. Netorare is the opposite of Netori. Mc will do Netori, Leo will feel on his skin what Netorare means. Both are fetishes.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if Leo's fake performance came to light and Mc needed to step in his shoes to please Melena in Leo's stead. That was my take from this whole interaction. Even if Leo got help from this potion/oinment he wouldn't be able to keep up the same lvl of satisfaction from her by his skill alone. Leo as Mc's best "friend" would have seen or heard certain things about mc to convince himself that there is no one better than him at pleasing women that he could ask for help and trust him. Either that or Leo will be defeated by her unsatible sex drive and will ask for help from his friend in taming the beast. Leo is in his youth. Has games and stories in his mind. Not girls and sex. So I wouldn't be surprised if he was interested but not that interested to choose her over games and other hobbies... etc. Either way. Leo might get cucked and be even alright with it. I mean.. Netorare is the opposite of Netori. Mc will do Netori, Leo will feel on his skin what Netorare means. Both are fetishes.
No.
 

Dogorti

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I wouldn't be surprised if Leo's fake performance came to light and Mc needed to step in his shoes to please Melena in Leo's stead. That was my take from this whole interaction. Even if Leo got help from this potion/oinment he wouldn't be able to keep up the same lvl of satisfaction from her by his skill alone. Leo as Mc's best "friend" would have seen or heard certain things about mc to convince himself that there is no one better than him at pleasing women that he could ask for help and trust him. Either that or Leo will be defeated by her unsatible sex drive and will ask for help from his friend in taming the beast. Leo is in his youth. Has games and stories in his mind. Not girls and sex. So I wouldn't be surprised if he was interested but not that interested to choose her over games and other hobbies... etc. Either way. Leo might get cucked and be even alright with it. I mean.. Netorare is the opposite of Netori. Mc will do Netori, Leo will feel on his skin what Netorare means. Both are fetishes.
Leave poor leo alone man.
 

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Pretty much that... She isn't a character fit for Leo to begin with. He can lose his cherry with her and be done with it. She is too focused on material gains and looks instead of real feelings. So as a matchup they are terrible together. Leo might benefit from this relation as he will gain confidence and interest in opposite sex as well gain expirience with a woman/girl. Otherwise she isn't worth mentioning for Mc when he have multiple beautiful and far more interesting girls to choose from. Melena is more like side on a side character. Footnote and more like antagonist than anyone else. So I wouldn't be surprised if she did something bad to Leo or Mc or his girls in her fit of jealousy. To warrant a hate fuck and blackmail.
 

mario1994

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I really don't get why people are so desperate to have Melena have sex with mc. She's annoying and looks bland next to any of the actual LI's.
Personally I do not even wish to see her in this game, but otherwise I can't find real purpouse for her existance. She is bad match for Leo on multiple lvls. So I hope that they won't stay together unless she changes and actually loves Leo. Dude deserve better. Its just my idea of her future in this game. It might be completly different for all I care. I wouldn't feel anything if she was erased completly from the story and was only mentioned occasionally. There are far more interesting girls and women to choose from and too little time dev can give them already as it stands. Dude needs real team od dedicated artists to churn out updates at faster pace.
 

Alandir

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Pretty much that... She isn't a character fit for Leo to begin with. He can lose his cherry with her and be done with it. She is too focused on material gains and looks instead of real feelings. So as a matchup they are terrible together. Leo might benefit from this relation as he will gain confidence and interest in opposite sex as well gain expirience with a woman/girl. Otherwise she isn't worth mentioning for Mc when he have multiple beautiful and far more interesting girls to choose from. Melena is more like side on a side character. Footnote and more like antagonist than anyone else. So I wouldn't be surprised if she did something bad to Leo or Mc or his girls in her fit of jealousy. To warrant a hate fuck and blackmail.
Or, you know, she can just be off doing stuff with Leo somewhere else. Far, far away from the mc and his girls. She's annoying, Leo's annoying. They can just be annoying by themselves and we don't have to spent dev time and screentime on a character that's just inferior in every way to the 12(!) character's that we already have.
 

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I wouldn't be surprised if Leo's fake performance came to light and Mc needed to step in his shoes to please Melena in Leo's stead. That was my take from this whole interaction. Even if Leo got help from this potion/oinment he wouldn't be able to keep up the same lvl of satisfaction from her by his skill alone. Leo as Mc's best "friend" would have seen or heard certain things about mc to convince himself that there is no one better than him at pleasing women that he could ask for help and trust him. Either that or Leo will be defeated by her unsatible sex drive and will ask for help from his friend in taming the beast. Leo is in his youth. Has games and stories in his mind. Not girls and sex. So I wouldn't be surprised if he was interested but not that interested to choose her over games and other hobbies... etc. Either way. Leo might get cucked and be even alright with it. I mean.. Netorare is the opposite of Netori. Mc will do Netori, Leo will feel on his skin what Netorare means. Both are fetishes.
Finally a good idea :coffee:
 

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Or, you know, she can just be off doing stuff with Leo somewhere else. Far, far away from the mc and his girls. She's annoying, Leo's annoying. They can just be annoying by themselves and we don't have to spent dev time and screentime on a character that's just inferior in every way to the 12(!) character's that we already have.
Well that's what the dev said he would do.
 

mario1994

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Honestly just a blind guess perhaps it’s because his crush on Catherine i believe first day of y school (the one he currently in) and she didn't like that so started bullying him because he said they marry or he agreed to marry her can't remember which then gets a crush on some else and some extra evidence is that Julia said can't remember the exact words but basically that she developed early beyond her years that kinda thing so she likely took the marriage idea seriously and felt betrayed. On I think day 2 where they get put into groups she clearly hates Catherine likely partly blames her but mainly blames Mc for betraying her. But I'm not 100% sure likely got some things wrong or it's more complex than that but we will find out in a month or two so not that long and we should get an answer. Feel free to correct or add anything as I'd like to know
Pretty much spot on. She developed feelings for Mc early on. He played with her and joked propably about getting married. For her it wasn't a play or a joke. More like a promise. He clearly didn't think of it as anything but a play/game and show of his affection but not love for her. She not only found out that he loves another girl. He actually forgotten about said promise. He became a wimp she can bully and not a heroic kid that stood his ground when he protected her. She developed faster. Grew taller than him. Was stronger. He became this wimpy kid everyone bully. So instead of helping him. She chose to bully him and she waited for him to stand up against her and to became her idol from memories. She just didn't understand how he could forget, get so weak and wimpy and fall for another girl. Her dissapointment turned into anger and love turned into hatred. She couldn't menage her emotions well. So she lashed out on him for not understanding her. Typical woman behaviour. Its his fault that he can't read minds.
 

mario1994

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Or, you know, she can just be off doing stuff with Leo somewhere else. Far, far away from the mc and his girls. She's annoying, Leo's annoying. They can just be annoying by themselves and we don't have to spent dev time and screentime on a character that's just inferior in every way to the 12(!) character's that we already have.
True.. it might be a good idea to actually get rid of annoying character without completly erasing him from the story and actually focus on those that actually matter. Still.. as a best friend of mc we can't simply forget that he exists. He still needs to be in classes. School and meet up from time to time. He still is the.. best friend. At least this way dev have an excuse to erase Leo completly from some events.
 

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Yeah, I know. It's a good choice.
I just don't get why people keep arguing to give her more screen time and even sex scenes, especially when they agree that she is an annoying character.
I mean, people didn't want the threesome (extra) scene with the bitchy classmates. Instead, there is the Jacky masturbation scene.
 
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