VN Ren'Py Twisted Memories [v0.9b] [BaiBai]

[Ultimecea]

I want to discuss some idea but I don't know if anyone has discussed it before,I didn't go through every previous post because it was too much.

Which is that I think Cathrine's route of seduction and corruption should be completely swapped.

nah

This. My graduating class was something like 120 people. Of those 120, less than 10 of us were 17 (me included having a b-day in July) and around 20 or so were 19 from having an late birthday or being held back a year in Elementary or Middle school. the vast majority were either 18 going on 19 or just recently turned 18.


I'll have to say no to this too. You can only be tempted into doing something you know is wrong if you were already leading the right path. The seduction route makes her question her feelings by showing something she didn't previously know she was attracted to, basically she was seduced by the MC's adult mind and behavior, rather than him physically coming after her. Her wholehearted love for Aden, a loser who doesn't deserve her, came from their closeness and not exactly because she was attracted to him. That gives plenty of realistic room for her to realize things she never consider: her personal taste and things she's attracted to.

The corruption route is the MC NOT showing that side to her that she became attracted to in the Seduction route and therefore her loyalty remained untested thus he had to employ more physical means to forcibly make her come to his side. And though "her heart was single-minded" (which we never saw cause she showed interest in MC even before you were gaining point for her), her body enjoyed the new sensations against her will, thus corrupted.

he explained it well but corruption scene should be the true route
especially for someone who somehow went back in time and able to do something to change his life?
literally if its me, i'll do anything i wouldn't dare to do previously
regardless of the morality and consequences.

typically on breaking a girl that's close yet not breaking down the final barrier,
i would choose to do so if i get to relive my life again

 

[mentosa]

I want to discuss some idea but I don't know if anyone has discussed it before,I didn't go through every previous post because it was too much.

Which is that I think Cathrine's route of seduction and corruption should be completely swapped.

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I want to know if anyone has the same problems and thoughts as me, and if so, plz let me know.



And I also want BaiBai to see this post. If you think it is reasonable, can you modify it in a subsequent update? I don't want to put any pressure just a sincere opinion of a loyal player.

Wait, which one is Catherine again? The update was so long ago that I forgot.

P.S. I'm joking ... somewhat. I don't give a shit about Catherines route, I want to see Clements being fired into while her daughter waits her turn mastubating to her mother being impregnated, Julia being fucked while her husband is in the other room and I want to see Alyvia and Jacky. Everything else is just some fun while we wait for the main dish.

 

[Dogorti]

Wait, which one is Catherine again? The update was so long ago that I forgot.

You made a post having a mental breakdown over this game because you were emotionally attached to this game. You should remember who Catherine is...

 

[mentosa]

You made a post having a mental breakdown over this game because you were emotionally attached to this game. You should remember who Catherine is...

LOL, seems like the damage from the breakdown wiped my memory.

 

[Maulis47]

I want to discuss some idea but I don't know if anyone has discussed it before,I didn't go through every previous post because it was too much.

Which is that I think Cathrine's route of seduction and corruption should be completely swapped.

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I want to know if anyone has the same problems and thoughts as me, and if so, plz let me know.



And I also want BaiBai to see this post. If you think it is reasonable, can you modify it in a subsequent update? I don't want to put any pressure just a sincere opinion of a loyal player.

To add to what the others have said: it's fairly obvious that if Aden doesn't man up before Z school Catherine will be taken from him. The mc is doing exactly that just sooner with the seduction route where he will convince Catherine that she has better options. A peck on the cheek on the other hand I don't think is "bitch behavior".

 

[Alandir]

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I'm sorry. Are you twelve? In what universe does a peck on the cheek count as "giving your first kiss".

 

[Xythurr]

I'm sorry. Are you twelve? In what universe does a peck on the cheek count as "giving your first kiss".

The same one where holding hands and using first names is "lewd" behavior I'll bet.

 

[Simpgor]

Leaked footage of Viktoria NSFW

 

[Dogorti]

The same one where holding hands and using first names is "lewd" behavior I'll bet.

Bro sure believes that indirect kisses are a real and daring thing.

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[OhGodNotAgain]

Leaked footage of Viktoria NSFW

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[Xythurr]

Leaked footage of Viktoria NSFW

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Ohhhhh yeah....! That's the good shit!

 

[dialord7]

This. My graduating class was something like 120 people. Of those 120, less than 10 of us were 17 (me included having a b-day in July) and around 20 or so were 19 from having an late birthday or being held back a year in Elementary or Middle school. the vast majority were either 18 going on 19 or just recently turned 18.


I'll have to say no to this too. You can only be tempted into doing something you know is wrong if you were already leading the right path. The seduction route makes her question her feelings by showing something she didn't previously know she was attracted to, basically she was seduced by the MC's adult mind and behavior, rather than him physically coming after her. Her wholehearted love for Aden, a loser who doesn't deserve her, came from their closeness and not exactly because she was attracted to him. That gives plenty of realistic room for her to realize things she never consider: her personal taste and things she's attracted to.

The corruption route is the MC NOT showing that side to her that she became attracted to in the Seduction route and therefore her loyalty remained untested thus he had to employ more physical means to forcibly make her come to his side. And though "her heart was single-minded" (which we never saw cause she showed interest in MC even before you were gaining point for her), her body enjoyed the new sensations against her will, thus corrupted.

Okay I think your point is very valid, but I still can't agree with Cathrine's flirtatious first kiss to MC. She can give him a hug and then give him her first kiss after confirming her feelings. After all, she cherishes her first kiss so much in the game,right?

 

[dialord7]

I'm sorry. Are you twelve? In what universe does a peck on the cheek count as "giving your first kiss".

hey dont say that,I agree that my statement is not quite accurate,but the point is that she and her current boyfriend didn't do it first to the guy who first confessed to her,don't you think the character doesn't fit the original plan?

 

[jjoron95]

baibai is on vacation the game is not abandonned

 

[jjoron95]

baibai come back the 1st december

 

[DicksInSpace]

baibai come back the 1st december

His "vacation mode" has been extended twice already, might happen again so wouldn't bet on it

 

[Alandir]

hey dont say that,I agree that my statement is not quite accurate,but the point is that she and her current boyfriend didn't do it first to the guy who first confessed to her,don't you think the character doesn't fit the original plan?

Well, first off. A peck on the cheek isn't something you really give your first to someone. Most people give their "first" peck on the cheek to their parents or a sibling. It's meaningless.
Second off, nothing indicates that this was the first time for her giving someone a peck on the cheek. I checked the scene again since I had a save just before:

Notice the "more". It doesn't say that she has never given aiden a "kiss" like this. It says that she has never given Aiden a kiss that was more intimate than this. Meaning, she didn't give her first peck on the cheek to the mc.
Plus I also think you are interpreting things into cath and aidens characters and relationships that aren't necessarily there. You think of cath as this pure girl who loves her boyfriend above everything and anything. Which would certainly be a classic ntr target. But from the bits of their relationship that we have seen thats not really what it is. She cares a lot about him, but that's more because she's just a very caring girl in general. She "loves" Aiden more for being the son of the family that took her in than for himself. And what the mc is doing in the seduction route is showing her what a relationship is really supposed to be like. In one way by showing her his rapid progress in his relationship with steph, but now more by making her feel desired and pretty. Something that a boyfriend should do for his girlfriend but that aiden doesn't.

Edit: Having played a bit further, the game actually confirms that she has given Aiden a peck on the cheek before while mc is buying condoms.

 

[dialord7]

Well, first off. A peck on the cheek isn't something you really give your first to someone. Most people give their "first" peck on the cheek to their parents or a sibling. It's meaningless.
Second off, nothing indicates that this was the first time for her giving someone a peck on the cheek. I checked the scene again since I had a save just before:
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Notice the "more". It doesn't say that she has never given aiden a "kiss" like this. It says that she has never given Aiden a kiss that was more intimate than this. Meaning, she didn't give her first peck on the cheek to the mc.
Plus I also think you are interpreting things into cath and aidens characters and relationships that aren't necessarily there. You think of cath as this pure girl who loves her boyfriend above everything and anything. Which would certainly be a classic ntr target. But from the bits of their relationship that we have seen thats not really what it is. She cares a lot about him, but that's more because she's just a very caring girl in general. She "loves" Aiden more for being the son of the family that took her in than for himself. And what the mc is doing in the seduction route is showing her what a relationship is really supposed to be like. In one way by showing her his rapid progress in his relationship with steph, but now more by making her feel desired and pretty. Something that a boyfriend should do for his girlfriend but that aiden doesn't.

Edit: Having played a bit further, the game actually confirms that she has given Aiden a peck on the cheek before while mc is buying condoms.
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You convinced me bro, I guess I didn't look closely enough,maybe in my heart Cathrine is a more reserved girl, But somehow, it all makes sense.

 

[kojos3000]

if you go by my age setting
theyre basically 12, 14 and 17 respectively

That's very close to what I've had it set as (thanks to the Universal Ren'Py Mod), I forget my exact reasoning, but I think I've settled into the idea that for this world/setting, Elementary School goes from Kindergarten to 6th grade, and Middle school goes from 7th to 9th grade.

Edit: I think I vaguely remember my reasoning:
Older sister is dating some college/university-aged dude.
Younger sister is sad because she & MC will not be in the same school anymore in one more year.
And some other shit that makes me think MC is basically entering highschool which would be leaving his younger sister behind in middle school, but that his older sis is basically dating up in age currently as some highschool gals have been known to do (which unfortunately doesn't end too well in her future).
Which that and the talk with the mom basically made me think the mom is 2x+1 the older sister's age?

So she and the mom are kind of on a sliding scale in my mind depending on whether the older sister is 16-18. But the "leaving school so middle to highschool age for MC and younger sis" I think is accurate, depending on whatever that is for whatever region.

 

[Hellofacritic]

Guys tell me there is some impregnation in this game. Loved the comic by Maron Maron with the same context and you ended up with all of those women pregnant with your progeny.