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Damn.. snats just made an announcement on discord, he will just have the game on SS from now on. At least he will have more creative freedom on SS, but most of his support was on patreon and there will be a good number of people that won't be able to support him on SS.
That's unfortunate... Well, a lot of people have made the move to SS (I haven't yet, even though I hate Patreon with a red hot fury at this point... I probably should lol.) and the more shit like this happens, the more will. I get that it doesn't have PayPal but PayPal is a huge part of the reason adult creators have issues in the first place.
 
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That's unfortunate... Well, a lot of people have made the move to SS (I haven't yet, even though I hate Patreon with a red hot fury at this point... I probably should lol.) and the more shit like this happens, the more will. I get that it doesn't have PayPal but PayPal is a huge part of the reason adult creators have issues in the first place.
From the post he made on discord it seemed like they were just trying to find any excuse to remove him. I think we will start to see a lot more devs leaving patreon if they continue coming up with new rules. More than 90% of the games there are breaking some rule at this point so it's inevitable. The sad thing is that this situation will result in some games getting abandoned or getting updates less often. Bigger devs will probably be able to get enough support once they make the move, but for the smaller devs that are barelly making enough to work on the game it will be a very big hit.
 

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From the post he made on discord it seemed like they were just trying to find any excuse to remove him. I think we will start to see a lot more devs leaving patreon if they continue coming up with new rules. More than 90% of the games there are breaking some rule at this point so it's inevitable. The sad thing is that this situation will result in some games getting abandoned or getting updates less often. Bigger devs will probably be able to get enough support once they make the move, but for the smaller devs that are barelly making enough to work on the game it will be a very big hit.
Hopefully the ecosystem will find a new equilibrium. When tumblr died a lot of people were left stranded but people eventually resettled on twitter/newgrounds. I know SS is lacking a lot of features/infrastructure but adult creators always persevere. No matter how much some people want to quash this space, it's just a part of what humans want, whether some people want to hide it or not.
 
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He never said the hospital update was coming this month.
The hospital is waaaaay longer than Heaven and Hell.
Yeah suuureee buddy lmfao:KEK:

That's unfortunate... Well, a lot of people have made the move to SS (I haven't yet, even though I hate Patreon with a red hot fury at this point... I probably should lol.) and the more shit like this happens, the more will. I get that it doesn't have PayPal but PayPal is a huge part of the reason adult creators have issues in the first place.
I think if patreon continue like that then it won't be long until subscribestar bring more payments options lol. Creator are the only reasons why sites like patreon are active lmfao :HideThePain:
 
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This is from a dev log on 12/16/23 I think.

He actually said it was coming last month, but given that Heaven and Hell got pushed back to last month, most of us who are inclined to charitability have assumed the Hospital prologue will be coming this month... If that's not the case then it will be an absolute L on Snats' part unless he's taken a bunch of feedback to make some substantive changes, because the impression was that what needed to be done on the second half is mostly bugfixing/testing.

So unless he was lying or he is indeed making feedback-based changes, there is no reason to not expect the update some time this month. There's no reason to assume "error fixing" and "story-related stuff" should take more than an additional month-and-a-half, assuming Snats was already basically done with renders, area scripts, and most of the writing. I haven't been on the Discord, and the SS page isn't showing any updates; I'm assuming it's just not updating for non-members. So until someone is willing to leak some form of progress, we have to assume he at best grossly misrepresented the work that was left on the Hospital prologue or was inspired to make some substantive improvements. The worst assumptions are of course already all over the thread.
"January" or "update V0.1.5". Nowhere does he say, that V0.1.5 is coming out in February.

He may have pre-made things like animations etc, but then you have to actually put all that together and make sure it works properly. Like take Afiria's boobjob for example---her boobs were clipping and it took awhile to fix them. Plus, there's the script and let me tell you, you don't get much written in a day.
 
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"January" or "update V0.1.5". Nowhere does he say, that V0.1.5 is coming out in February.

He may have pre-made things like animations etc, but then you have to actually put all that together and make sure it works properly. Like take Afiria's boobjob for example---her boobs were clipping and it took awhile to fix them. Plus, there's the script and let me tell you, you don't get much written in a day.
IDK enough about the animation process to comment on that, but I've seen the scripts and done enough scripting to know that once you've done enough of it, if you're not doing anything complicated (Snats isn't) you should get used to it. It might not be his strong point, but lets not twist what he's clearly said in his own words. The implication is that marginal tweaks are being made and the hospital release doesn't need an amount of work that's going to take months to complete. It's fine if that doesn't happen but there was an expectation and Snats himself set it.
 
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Any news on what's snats next decision? Is the game abandoned? No updates or releases of the hospital events lmfao. I hope he doesn't use the patreon shit as an excuse to ditch February release
As mentioned in a post just above the dev has moved fully to substar,
however a question was asked "will you be changing the game now your only on SubscribeStar?

Snatz responds "YES" and posts a gif of vin diesel drinking a beer..

This means incoming family content with no restrictions, no need for patches and can write the game how it was intended.

Damn.. snats just made an announcement on discord, he will just have the game on SS from now on. At least he will have more creative freedom on SS, but most of his support was on patreon and there will be a good number of people that won't be able to support him on SS.
Snats has 1092 subs on SubscibeStar, sure it's not everything but the following for this game was already high on SubStar due to the nature of "family" Content.
 

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As mentioned in a post just above the dev has moved fully to substar,
however a question was asked "will you be changing the game now your only on SubscribeStar?

Snatz responds "YES" and posts a gif of vin diesel drinking a beer..

This means incoming family content with no restrictions, no need for patches and can write the game how it was intended.


Snats has 1092 subs on SubscibeStar, sure it's not everything but the following for this game was already high on SubStar due to the nature of "family" Content.
Most of those subs are for the free tier
 

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I wonder if updates will come out quicker since they probably want to get their SubscibeStar sub count up.
 

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A lot of people don't really pay attention to this thread and/or aren't very active on discord so it would make sense to release something soon, so people know what is going on. We saw what happened with the remake, there was a influx of people to this thread that didn't even know the game was being remade even though the dev had talked about it over a year ago.

As for what fisty123 said. Snats will definitely have way more creative freedom, but other than not needing a patch, I don't think there will be very big changes to the story.
 

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IDK enough about the animation process to comment on that, but I've seen the scripts and done enough scripting to know that once you've done enough of it, if you're not doing anything complicated (Snats isn't) you should get used to it. It might not be his strong point, but lets not twist what he's clearly said in his own words. The implication is that marginal tweaks are being made and the hospital release doesn't need an amount of work that's going to take months to complete. It's fine if that doesn't happen but there was an expectation and Snats himself set it.
He doesn't use WebM anymore; he now exports every frame instead and animates them via Ren'Py. Because of that, he needs to edit a few things in Adobe Photoshop so everything fits properly.
 
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Would be cool if the protagonist could be a futa one with a option from the start.(I just like futa mcs more but that's just me.)
 

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He doesn't use WebM anymore; he now exports every frame instead and animates them via Ren'Py. Because of that, he needs to edit a few things in Adobe Photoshop so everything fits properly.
It probably takes more time doing that, but the latest versions of renpy really suck at playing webm. If you have an older pc and the game was made in any version of renpy after 7.5 you will probably have issues during animations if the dev is using webm.
 

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So as you all have already have probably seen, since about 5 days ago, my Patreon page got under an undefined suspension (Not banned yet) for "non-consensual sex" (Which they didn't explain me details of which scene they got this idea from, so I think it could very probably be some scene related to Nora and her having a rough sex with the MC, or maybe it's any of the Femdom related ones or even any in which the girls aproach sexually the MC, also that I always make sure that every of my scenes I show textually and visually that both parties are in favor of having sex with each other, Now... they maybe took seriously one of those tsundere characters that I have. lol)
Uh we've got Jaiden's nightscapades, Leandro's bathroom emergency, Dorothy's business blackmail, Maria's laundry room shakedown, Cera's decaf drugging, probably missing a couple lol, but we've got plenty of dub-con/cnc type situations, if not straight up non-con lol. Is there some different definition of consent in SA? Not that I mind all the content, I'm here for the non-con, but let's call a spade a spade lol.

EDIT: Oh, let's not forget the Resort sleepwalk rape run =P. Man that was fun coming up with those, but I think I'm running out of fun ways to descripe clearly rapey situations.

But yea as to the whole post we all know Patreon would very much like to snuff all adult content that whiffs of non-vanilla from their platform. It's basically gonna be a refuse dump of romance/vanilla harem content in a few months.
 

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Uh we've got Jaiden's nightscapades, Leandro's bathroom emergency, Dorothy's business blackmail, Maria's laundry room shakedown, Cera's decaf drugging, probably missing a couple lol, but we've got plenty of dub-con/cnc type situations, if not straight up non-con lol. Is there some different definition of consent in SA? Not that I mind all the content, I'm here for the non-con, but let's call a spade a spade lol.

EDIT: Oh, let's not forget the Resort sleepwalk rape run =P. Man that was fun coming up with those, but I think I'm running out of fun ways to descripe clearly rapey situations.

But yea as to the whole post we all know Patreon would very much like to snuff all adult content that whiffs of non-vanilla from their platform. It's basically gonna be a refuse dump of romance/vanilla harem content in a few months.
Did bro forgot that this remake literally have demons raping the Mc? I don't know if snats is an idiot or delusional. Perhaps both.:HideThePain:
 

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Uh we've got Jaiden's nightscapades, Leandro's bathroom emergency, Dorothy's business blackmail, Maria's laundry room shakedown, Cera's decaf drugging, probably missing a couple lol, but we've got plenty of dub-con/cnc type situations, if not straight up non-con lol. Is there some different definition of consent in SA? Not that I mind all the content, I'm here for the non-con, but let's call a spade a spade lol.

EDIT: Oh, let's not forget the Resort sleepwalk rape run =P. Man that was fun coming up with those, but I think I'm running out of fun ways to descripe clearly rapey situations.

But yea as to the whole post we all know Patreon would very much like to snuff all adult content that whiffs of non-vanilla from their platform. It's basically gonna be a refuse dump of romance/vanilla harem content in a few months.
Yeah when you stop to think about it there are a lot of things that were against patreon rules.
But at this point, with how strict their rules are, it's hard to find a game that it is not breaking any of them.
 
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