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beerwurz2

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When you lotion up Lindsey you can rub her butt afterwards. Then ther is a choice to "Go for the pussy." which is always red, but as far as I can see, I meet the prerequisites. Any idea?
 

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When you lotion up Lindsey you can rub her butt afterwards. Then ther is a choice to "Go for the pussy." which is always red, but as far as I can see, I meet the prerequisites. Any idea?
There's probably this tiny yellow sign on the right side of the option, meaning "work in progress"

(as in "not yet implemented")
 

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Tiny little problem with that plan, this plot line is supposed to be THE main thing that the game is built around. I of course agree that lovely Anny is stealing the show, and the more of her the better. But it's not a bad thing to try something original for a change.
Yeah I know it's supposed to be the main gimmick I guess I didn't express myself well but I was trying to say that dev seems to lost confidence in that idea or has accidentally fucked up the expectations of what this game is.

Most of the people here and I honestly have to assume most of the people paying for the game seem to think this game is a maleprotag only game with a wide variety of LIs and an extensive incest plotline. I'm saying that if this still isn't the case then Greono should have introduced the gender swap plot like 5 updates ago.
 

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Yeah I know it's supposed to be the main gimmick I guess I didn't express myself well but I was trying to say that dev seems to lost confidence in that idea or has accidentally fucked up the expectations of what this game is.

Most of the people here and I honestly have to assume most of the people paying for the game seem to think this game is a maleprotag only game with a wide variety of LIs and an extensive incest plotline. I'm saying that if this still isn't the case then Greono should have introduced the gender swap plot like 5 updates ago.
Anyone who reads what the dev writes shouldn't think this. He made it clear that he will be adding a female mc as well.
 

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Anyone who reads what the dev writes shouldn't think this. He made it clear that he will be adding a female mc as well.
I mean fingers crossed for the best. I just don't have a high opinion of AVN consumers and I don't wanna see the dev get any shit for their vision.
 

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Anyone who reads what the dev writes shouldn't think this. He made it clear that he will be adding a female mc as well.
Source?

The game has optional genderswap for the male MC. No female MC option as in "character creation".
 

RellikK

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Source?

The game has optional genderswap for the male MC. No female MC option as in "character creation".
GGames3/24/25, 6:41 AM
A real romance with Bret would be much more possible with the MC in his female form. It will be hard for Bret to come out of the closet, I'm not saying he won't be affectionate with the MC in his male form (in time), but it will be hard for him to hold hands or give gifts to the MC in his male form. However, as I said, Bret may even ask the female MC out one day.
 

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GGames3/24/25, 6:41 AM
A real romance with Bret would be much more possible with the MC in his female form. It will be hard for Bret to come out of the closet, I'm not saying he won't be affectionate with the MC in his male form (in time), but it will be hard for him to hold hands or give gifts to the MC in his male form. However, as I said, Bret may even ask the female MC out one day.
Highlighted the decisive part for you.

Seems like you misunderstood this because you wanted to misunderstand this. What this means is "The male MC (...) in his female form". Nothing's changed since the previous iterations of this game. There is no actual female MC.
 

RellikK

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Nobody but you is thinking about character creation. It's a transformation game, it's obviously going to happen through transformation.
 
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  1. GGames8/15/24, 2:11 AM
    I swear I thought about it at one point. But it occurred to me that they would be distinct characters and I would have to make a much longer introduction to the game, with specific dialogues, etc. I think the transformation version will be better, because I would just make new events for each gender, in addition to having the "comedy" of the MC knowing how to deal with the female events and different situations in the same persona.
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    That's why it's introduced in the masculine form, so that the player creates a bond with the MC, and so that he feels like he's still the MC when he's in the feminine form.
    This was his answerwhen asked about choosing between male and female characters at the beginning of the game.

 

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Nobody but you is thinking about character creation. It's a transformation game, it's obviously going to happen through transformation.
He made it clear that he will be adding a female mc as well.
No female MC will be added. The MC is male, and the player may have the option to change him into a female form.

Also, since the game is already branching so heavily even in minor scenes, the day every scene needs to get duplicates for male+female form is the day the dev is gonna stop working on it.

Female Form MC trying to fuck Anny? Woops, he doesn't have a penis. Make the whole scene from scratch. Well, maybe not.
 
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A man playing as a woman in a sexualized environment is called "genderplay" in sexual science, usually indicates a latent desire to become a woman and/or to have sex with other men.

So yeah the whole FemProtag tag is a rather extreme fringe topic from the trans/gay side of things.
Well, if a guy IRL puts on pink skirt and makeup and starts fantasizing about dicks, then your diagnosis might be correct. But just controlling female MC in a game is very far from that. First, self inserting is not mandatory, you can simply control MC without thinking about him/her as you. And even if you do self insert, there's still this very clear distinction between fiction and reality. Many people struggle with it, but it's really two things. If in some other game I play as elf or dwarf, it also doesn't necessarily mean that I want to be one.

Most of the people here and I honestly have to assume most of the people paying for the game seem to think this game is a maleprotag only game with a wide variety of LIs and an extensive incest plotline. I'm saying that if this still isn't the case then Greono should have introduced the gender swap plot like 5 updates ago.
Right, if you just download the game and don't pay attention to anything else, it can happen very easily. And it's not just future gender swapping, supposedly there's already gay path, which I did notice in previous versions, but completely missed in this one, I'm not even sure if it really exists. Dev seems to have great plans, but probably lacks any clear one, adds things randomly, with insane amount of branching, ... so it takes time before he gets to anything. But it's also partly on players, it's easy to focus on selected characters and forget that the game may not be only about them.

No female MC will be added. The MC is male, and the player may have the option to change him into a female form.
So you support the modern idea that male/female depends on "firmware" rather than "hardware"? My first impression was that you wouldn't. :LOL:
 

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supposedly there's already gay path, which I did notice in previous versions, but completely missed in this one, I'm not even sure if it really exists.
There definitely is. If you focus on the feminine choices then you will see it. Bret has the most content. There's a bj scene before you even get to the apartment if you get kicked out of the cab and walk down the alley.
 

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Well, if a guy IRL puts on pink skirt and makeup and starts fantasizing about dicks, then your diagnosis might be correct. But just controlling female MC in a game is very far from that. First, self inserting is not mandatory, you can simply control MC without thinking about him/her as you. And even if you do self insert, there's still this very clear distinction between fiction and reality. Many people struggle with it, but it's really two things.
It is exactly that. You play as a woman, your sex partners are men, this is a very basic equation.

But it's totally okay if you don't want to admit it to yourself. Self-deception is a valid survival strategy.
 
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I'm reminded of that scene from that Ricky Gervais thing where Ian McKellan says that he explained to Peter Jackson that he'd be happy to play Gandalf but was not actually a wizard... He simply used his imagination and *pretended* to he a wizard.

If I play a game with a female MC, I do not become a woman, I merely imagine what it might be like to be a woman and act accordingly. That's why it is called a "game" and not real life.

OP watching kids play cops and robbers: Wow... That's wild. They have cops that young now? Do they recruit straight out of kindergarten?
 

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It turned out to be a strange update. 3 scenes are just the hero's dream and then new characters appear who are kind of strange. It would be better if there were not dreams but content with doctors and to introduce new characters again considering that there are a lot of others where there is no content with them or it is minimal
 
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