VN Ren'Py UC8 [v0.2.5.1] [Dark Griffin Games]

[MrBenny]

most tattooed woman has whole body tattooed besides maybe head.

Sure, I've seen some all body tatts. But it's not normal to see a woman with that amount of intensity with the blacks and other colors, which would require a lot of repeated tattoo gun effort to get it that intense. Literally almost all of her skin pigment isn't visible because it's all been blackened with ink.

Regards.

 

[Sngo]

I know it's a rhetorical question
But..

I would say - It's a very subtle (no) way to pressure Dev into shaping his game according to their wishes.

And unfortunately sometimes it works, especially with a rookie Developers, They check the thread, see a bunch of people "demanding" harem or complaining about some fetishes and here we go... they start changing the game instead to sticking to their own vision.

OK, I think my semi-sarcasm in a previous post was taken in a wrong way))
Probably me, not being a native speaker, shows, my bad.

Personally, besides few exceptions I don't play harem games, for me - it's hard to take seriously harem-endings in a games, unless it's some kind of dystopian setting or smth. Also I'm indifferent to incest.

While answering to Elhemeer's post my main point was that players by complaining that game doesn't have their kinks/settngs try to create a pressure on Developers.

P.S. And I like UC8 btw, it's a very enjoyable game.

Talking about low key pressuring the dev .
At least try to talk a bit about the game...

And harem can be just a route and don't need to affect the other endings, better ask for harem(not the case since didn't even ask for it) than to low key pressure devs to not inclue harem , harem can wide their audience while taking it out has the opposite effect.

If you really want to pass as low key you need to do it differently... Don't try to diverge attention by blaming other's, usually that's a red flag of your intentions...

There is a big difference from giving your opinion about the game and the why you drop it to your behavior that is just coming to that page just to complain about other's opinion .

 

[AlexMpog]

Talking about low key pressuring the dev .
At least try to talk a bit about the game...

And harem can be just a route and don't need to affect the other endings, better ask for harem(not the case since didn't even ask for it) than to low key pressure devs to not inclue harem , harem can wide their audience while taking it out has the opposite effect.

If you really want to pass as low key you need to do it differently... Don't try to diverge attention by blaming other's, usually that's a red flag of your intentions...

There is a big difference from giving your opinion about the game and the why you drop it to your behavior that is just coming to that page just to complain about other's opinion .

nah, I never pressure Devs into anything, I have an experience when some Developers tried to change their vision of a game (under pressure) and eventually game either ended abandoned or a huge mess. So honestly I prefer Develoeprs to stick to their own ideas, even if the game is not my cup of tea - that's fine, I just move on, silently, without comments aka "oh no, your game has this and doesn't have that - I'm out" etc, this Forum is not an airport after all - you don't have to announce your departure)))

that's why when I see players swarming a non-harem game thread with complains aka "oh, there is no harem, then I'm out", or "I played the game, but I'm gonna drop it cause it doesn't have harem" - it's triggers me sometimes, and btw, that's what I call low key pressure
And usually players do it after every update...

In this case I wasn't blaming anybody, I sarcastically answered another post

Also I wouldn't agree about harems making game more popular, I would say that the most popular games are actually non-harems, but I'm not gonna argue about that, cause I played not that many harem games.
Also we probably went off-top, thread probably is gonna be purged

 

[Grif1001]

OK, I think my semi-sarcasm in a previous post was taken in a wrong way))
Probably me, not being a native speaker, shows, my bad.

Personally, besides few exceptions I don't play harem games, for me - it's hard to take seriously harem-endings in a games, unless it's some kind of dystopian setting or smth. Also I'm indifferent to incest.

While answering to Elhemeer's post my main point was that players by complaining that game doesn't have their kinks/settngs try to create a pressure on Developers.

P.S. And I like UC8 btw, it's a very enjoyable game.

No I get that. I just wanted to point out that instead of letting people presure me into changing MY story, I have begun another one. I Currently have over 20 Game Plot/Idea/Outlines and I continue to come up with more. I have one planned that Is set in a dystopian future called Tribe of Man. I have one set in a Sci-fi future called Fragments in the Void. I have one set in the present that involves a Guy who works for a moving company called Moving Up. I have one set in a dark near future alternative timeline called Marwood Academy. And the one that will be my main focus after UC8 is about a man who finds out that the millionare who used to mentor him at summer camp every year was actually his real dad and now as one of his 5 heirs, has to compete in a world wide scavanger hunt to win his father's company and wealth. While simultaniously competing against and geting to know his half/step siblings. This game will be called Will Call.

Each of these stories will be their own unique tale. Some will be harem, some will not. Some darker and more sinister, some light and almost juvinile. My hope is to actually build a company over the next 5 years that is putting out 3-4 games simultaniously. UC8 is only the begining...

 

[tslojr]

Things I love about this game:

1. Music set to 50% volume at first boot.

2.

3.

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[clitcommander]

This update was the first time I tried this VN. Overall I like the story, writing, and image quality. After the first save prompt I had a random thought that I wasn't going to get to running the theater before the update ended.

 

[HiP1]

damn, we are still in the prologue? it's really stretching it out. as if Grif doesn't want us to see the mess inside the cinema
honestly, I was thinking this update would include MC settling in his job for the first few days at around the half part. a bit disappointing but might be a side effect of having so many LIs.
because of that, there is a feeling that the story didn't really move at all this time. for this update and the previous one could be summed up as just "MC chilling as he prepares for his first work day". it feels diluted and lacking a bit of substance compared to the first release which was quite intense. I hope the pace will pick up from this point on. I do enjoy slow paced wholesome slice of life stories, but this one was not setup like that.

the photorealistic style instead of honey select for eternum was fun.
might be thanks to AI rendering as there were already AI art in Peter's storage box.

 

[Elhemeer]

damn, we are still in the prologue? it's really stretching it out. as if Grif doesn't want us to see the mess inside the cinema
honestly, I was thinking this update would include MC settling in his job for the first few days at around the half part. a bit disappointing but might be a side effect of having so many LIs.
because of that, there is a feeling that the story didn't really move at all this time. for this update and the previous one could be summed up as just "MC chilling as he prepares for his first work day". it feels diluted and lacking a bit of substance compared to the first release which was quite intense. I hope the pace will pick up from this point on. I do enjoy slow paced wholesome slice of life stories, but this one was not setup like that.

the photorealistic style instead of honey select for eternum was fun.
might be thanks to AI rendering as there were already AI art in Peter's storage box.

Not a fan of setting up the story I see ... It was still chapter 1, the story is about ALL the people involved, not just the people working in the theater. Yes, there were a lot of them to set up in a "short" time, but it still all moved the story forward.

The prolog moved from the inciting incident through the gathering of the new family to heading for the new home as a family.

The first chapter covered settling into their new home, meeting some of the local people and preparing for their new life.

Now the second chapter is apparently all you've been waiting for, but I still wonder if you'll be happy. I don't think the rest of the game is going to all take place in the theater, nor are we going to be watching a lot of movies in there (no, I don't think that's what you're waiting for, just being pedantic).

Anyway, I think if you actually read the whole description of the game on the OP (and if you paid attention during the ACTUAL prologue), you'd realize this game is going to be more story-focused than "action" focused, so it really shouldn't be surprising where the story is at after the end of the first chapter.

This may not be the game for you. But only you can decide that I suppose.

 

[cxx]

Not a fan of setting up the story I see

nope, straight to sex.

 

[HiP1]

Not a fan of setting up the story I see ... It was still chapter 1, the story is about ALL the people involved, not just the people working in the theater. Yes, there were a lot of them to set up in a "short" time, but it still all moved the story forward.

The prolog moved from the inciting incident through the gathering of the new family to heading for the new home as a family.

The first chapter covered settling into their new home, meeting some of the local people and preparing for their new life.

Now the second chapter is apparently all you've been waiting for, but I still wonder if you'll be happy. I don't think the rest of the game is going to all take place in the theater, nor are we going to be watching a lot of movies in there (no, I don't think that's what you're waiting for, just being pedantic).

Anyway, I think if you actually read the whole description of the game on the OP (and if you paid attention during the ACTUAL prologue), you'd realize this game is going to be more story-focused than "action" focused, so it really shouldn't be surprising where the story is at after the end of the first chapter.

This may not be the game for you. But only you can decide that I suppose.

nope. I'm very story focused. I don't care about the lewd scenes or how many there are in each update. you can check my history here. and you shouldn't even doubt that because I didn't ask for more lewd scenes, or more "action"... I clearly said I expected the start of MC's job to be sooner and guess what it is ? it's story.
I know what the game is about and what happened, don't worry. didn't need a summary.
and it's because I know what happened that I could comment. so instead on going all defensive right off the bat, you should actually read what I wrote.

there was a rhythm set in the intro release, ep1 slowed things down, and ep2 slowed them down again.

starting the new job is obviously one of the main turning point in the story. it's the real start. there is a big chunk of the setup that happened last update and this update that could have also happened after MC started. the order doesn't really matter for those small events/encounters. and starting a bit earlier would have been more in line with the rhythm set before, for a better flow. Grif chose to do it differently, it's his prerogative. it doesn't mean I am absolutely required and obliged to like it to be allowed to continue playing and appreciate the remaining of the story.

are we not allowed to be disappointed about something in an update anymore ?
can't there be a healthy discussion and constructive criticism ? providing feedback is an important part of this development model.

you can check back in the thread too, I have been quite positive and supportive here. your condescendent reply and personal attacks were not needed and they didn't provide anything to the discussion.

nope, straight to sex.

nope. and the very first scene is literally a sex scene... MC being cheated on.

 

[Elhemeer]

there was a rhythm set in the intro release, ep1 slowed things down, and ep2 slowed them down again.

And this is where I disagree with your expectations.

I agree I was defensive and somewhat reactionary (it was late and I was tired), but you keep saying you expected "episode 2" to move faster, or move into a new setting, but it was clearly explained that the third release was "Chapter 1, Part 2", which is why I don't understand WHY you expected the story to move on.

By labeling the second and third release as two parts of the same chapter, the dev was giving you the clues that the pacing and coverage would be similar. Chapter 1 Part 2 didn't slow down, it maintained the introduction-to-Renwick feel that Chapter 1 Part 1 established. At least that's how I see it.

But you're right, I was unnecessarily combative in my initial response, and I apologize for that.

 

[HiP1]

And this is where I disagree with your expectations.

I agree I was defensive and somewhat reactionary (it was late and I was tired), but you keep saying you expected "episode 2" to move faster, or move into a new setting, but it was clearly explained that the third release was "Chapter 1, Part 2", which is why I don't understand WHY you expected the story to move on.

By labeling the second and third release as two parts of the same chapter, the dev was giving you the clues that the pacing and coverage would be similar. Chapter 1 Part 2 didn't slow down, it maintained the introduction-to-Renwick feel that Chapter 1 Part 1 established. At least that's how I see it.

But you're right, I was unnecessarily combative in my initial response, and I apologize for that.

thanks for this reply!
apology accepted, no hard feelings.

I acknowledge that it's my own expectation that set me up for disappointment.
but if I was to explain my reasoning about the change in pace, in my opinion, i'd say that it's mainly because, to me, the main story is about MC's new job and his new life with his daughters, while the events and encounters with the LIs are secondary plots and stories. so in the first release, the main story moves really fast. MC gets cheated on, divorces, negotiates his transfer to a new job location, buys a new house, finds out he has a lost daughter, sets his best friend on the case, contacts his daughter, meets her, meets her sister, spend a great family day with both, while preparing his house at the same time for them, arranges the school transfer, and university registration, load all their stuff in the car and drives away. you expect the next episode to be about how they settle in the new house and explore a bit of the town, and maybe that he visits his new job ideally but not for sure.
from there, it slows down main story wise. MC does spend quite some time with the girls and stabilizing/organizing their daily life, so we get plenty of main story. we get a flashback about his military past that also gives more insight into his character. and lots of secondary events with LIs. but nothing about the new job except some funny baits and Poppy's story. you can see then that it did slow down quite a bit on the main story. so at this point, I did expect that the next episode would have a good chunk about the job at least, if not the whole episode.
but instead, we barely see MC spend time with the girls compared to previous episodes, and his first day at his new job is only at the very end.

I still like the game and the update, but I was disappointed by that specific point.

 

[Elhemeer]

thanks for this reply!
apology accepted, no hard feelings.

I acknowledge that it's my own expectation that set me up for disappointment.
but if I was to explain my reasoning about the change in pace, in my opinion, i'd say that it's mainly because, to me, the main story is about MC's new job and his new life with his daughters, while the events and encounters with the LIs are secondary plots and stories. so in the first release, the main story moves really fast. MC gets cheated on, divorces, negotiates his transfer to a new job location, buys a new house, finds out he has a lost daughter, sets his best friend on the case, contacts his daughter, meets her, meets her sister, spend a great family day with both, while preparing his house at the same time for them, arranges the school transfer, and university registration, load all their stuff in the car and drives away. you expect the next episode to be about how they settle in the new house and explore a bit of the town, and maybe that he visits his new job ideally but not for sure.
from there, it slows down main story wise. MC does spend quite some time with the girls and stabilizing/organizing their daily life, so we get plenty of main story. we get a flashback about his military past that also gives more insight into his character. and lots of secondary events with LIs. but nothing about the new job except some funny baits and Poppy's story. you can see then that it did slow down quite a bit on the main story. so at this point, I did expect that the next episode would have a good chunk about the job at least, if not the whole episode.
but instead, we barely see MC spend time with the girls compared to previous episodes, and his first day at his new job is only at the very end.

I still like the game and the update, but I was disappointed by that specific point.

 

[Grif1001]

nope, straight to sex.

working on a second game for that...

 

[Grif1001]

nope. I'm very story focused. I don't care about the lewd scenes or how many there are in each update. you can check my history here. and you shouldn't even doubt that because I didn't ask for more lewd scenes, or more "action"... I clearly said I expected the start of MC's job to be sooner and guess what it is ? it's story.
I know what the game is about and what happened, don't worry. didn't need a summary.
and it's because I know what happened that I could comment. so instead on going all defensive right off the bat, you should actually read what I wrote.

there was a rhythm set in the intro release, ep1 slowed things down, and ep2 slowed them down again.

starting the new job is obviously one of the main turning point in the story. it's the real start. there is a big chunk of the setup that happened last update and this update that could have also happened after MC started. the order doesn't really matter for those small events/encounters. and starting a bit earlier would have been more in line with the rhythm set before, for a better flow. Grif chose to do it differently, it's his prerogative. it doesn't mean I am absolutely required and obliged to like it to be allowed to continue playing and appreciate the remaining of the story.

are we not allowed to be disappointed about something in an update anymore ?
can't there be a healthy discussion and constructive criticism ? providing feedback is an important part of this development model.

you can check back in the thread too, I have been quite positive and supportive here. your condescendent reply and personal attacks were not needed and they didn't provide anything to the discussion.



nope. and the very first scene is literally a sex scene... MC being cheated on.

Thank you so much for your comments. I agree that the prologue moved much faster than the first Chapter did. That was intentional though. The prologue was a bit faster paced because I needed to get a larger portion of the back story in for that. we basically covered almost 3 months in game time during the prologue, April, May, and the first half of June or so...
I slowed these last two episodes down to about three and a half days each to show that the MC did take a little bit of time to adjust himself before jumping straight into his new job.
He's been through quite a bit in a very short time, so much so that it is stressing him out and causing some of his old PTDS issues to resurface. He needed a short break while dealing with all the changes before adding a new one to the mix. I hope I showed this effectively.

Chapter 2 will start speeding things up again. The two eppisodes will cover from June 19th through July 4th. And much of it will take place in the theater.

The pace will be somewhere between the prologue and Ch 1 for the remainder. There are only seven more Chapters (14 updates) before it ends, and it ends the following April. It's effectively an "a year in the life of" story, and there's lots more of the year to finish, so the pace will adjust acordingly.

Hope that answers some of your concerns.

 

[HiP1]

Thank you so much for your comments. I agree that the prologue moved much faster than the first Chapter did. That was intentional though. The prologue was a bit faster paced because I needed to get a larger portion of the back story in for that. we basically covered almost 3 months in game time during the prologue, April, May, and the first half of June or so...
I slowed these last two episodes down to about three and a half days each to show that the MC did take a little bit of time to adjust himself before jumping straight into his new job.
He's been through quite a bit in a very short time, so much so that it is stressing him out and causing some of his old PTDS issues to resurface. He needed a short break while dealing with all the changes before adding a new one to the mix. I hope I showed this effectively.

Chapter 2 will start speeding things up again. The two eppisodes will cover from June 19th through July 4th. And much of it will take place in the theater.

The pace will be somewhere between the prologue and Ch 1 for the remainder. There are only seven more Chapters (14 updates) before it ends, and it ends the following April. It's effectively an "a year in the life of" story, and there's lots more of the year to finish, so the pace will adjust acordingly.

Hope that answers some of your concerns.

Don't worry. I was not concerned. Like I said, it was my own expectation that set me up for disappointment.
it's kind of positive as it means I do have expectations for the game

delaying the start of the new job as much as possible like this also feels like deliberate teasing and edging. MC interacts pretty much with everyone outside of work, except the people from work (with some "random" small exceptions, and Poppy). a bit like a parent dangling a new game/toy or a visit to disneyland in front of their kids while endlessly adding chores nad homework to do before they give in.

the prologue was intense, for sure. I didn't expect the pace to stay the same as it would just wrap up the story in two or three updates the pace for episode 1 was good. episode 2 *feels* slower, to me, but maybe only because I expected something specific, which could have happened earlier by rearranging the order of some events. but it doesn't mean it's bad at all.
it's an easy cliffhanger, and it's very effective because of the nature of it too.

the only hints of his re-emerging PTSD are the dream and the call to Nessa. outside of those two, MC seems unaffected. there was also a weird interaction with Kayla the night of the date with Jackie. I thought it could be some kind of insecurity issue from all the life changes she went through or maybe some kind of guilt from her mom's death but there is no mention of it afterwards and no hint of what could have triggered it, so I chalked it up as some kind of mood swing or just periods

 

[Grif1001]

Don't worry. I was not concerned. Like I said, it was my own expectation that set me up for disappointment.
it's kind of positive as it means I do have expectations for the game

delaying the start of the new job as much as possible like this also feels like deliberate teasing and edging. MC interacts pretty much with everyone outside of work, except the people from work (with some "random" small exceptions, and Poppy). a bit like a parent dangling a new game/toy or a visit to disneyland in front of their kids while endlessly adding chores nad homework to do before they give in.

the prologue was intense, for sure. I didn't expect the pace to stay the same as it would just wrap up the story in two or three updates the pace for episode 1 was good. episode 2 *feels* slower, to me, but maybe only because I expected something specific, which could have happened earlier by rearranging the order of some events. but it doesn't mean it's bad at all.
it's an easy cliffhanger, and it's very effective because of the nature of it too.

the only hints of his re-emerging PTSD are the dream and the call to Nessa. outside of those two, MC seems unaffected. there was also a weird interaction with Kayla the night of the date with Jackie. I thought it could be some kind of insecurity issue from all the life changes she went through or maybe some kind of guilt from her mom's death but there is no mention of it afterwards and no hint of what could have triggered it, so I chalked it up as some kind of mood swing or just periods

Next episode will resolve some of those things. Read the latest Patreon post.

 

[botc76]

Great game so far, but something is really off with a lot of the faces, especially on the girls. And every single smile looks like the person spotting it is a madman.

I still like it a lot, because as long as the images are serviceable, I am more interested in the story, but in this case it was a bit of a detractor to be honest.

Great amount of Easter eggs for fans of other games on F95zone.
Just goes to show once more that this forum here is way more than just a pirate site, so many games have their start here or the creators are at least regulars even before they start their own game.

 

[botc76]

nope. and the very first scene is literally a sex scene... MC being cheated on.

Not really the type of sex scene people usually want to see, though. I mean, even if you were into NTR, it's not a pretty sight.

 

[Uncle Loco]

Just thought I would pop in and say that I really enjoyed the game. First time playing it, based on a recommendation I got. I love all the TV shows and movie references. I am looking forward to the next update whenever that it. Keep up the good work.