UK age verification laws. Question to the admins.

[koza123456789]

there's one thing I don't really understand about all this online safety bs, I mean, if the website is not based in UK, like the owner is not an UK citizen and the server that hosts the website is outside of UK, how do they want to force the site owner to comply with their law? Are they going to report you to interpol for breaking the law of the country you don't live in, ban your ip or what?

 

[Alice_Margatroid43]

there's one thing I don't really understand about all this online safety bs, I mean, if the website is not based in UK, like the owner is not an UK citizen and the server that hosts the website is outside of UK, how do they want to force the site owner to comply with their law? Are they going to report you to interpol for breaking the law of the country you don't live in, ban your ip or what?

I think they are just going to send finds to the website owner then block it. Or possibly take legal action though the host's courts. No idea, but I'd assume a fine then have UK ISPs block the site.

 

[Insanatee]

I think they are just going to send finds to the website owner then block it. Or possibly take legal action though the host's courts. No idea, but I'd assume a fine then have UK ISPs block the site.

But they have to realize if the website owner doesn't live in the UK they literally don't have to pay them shit right?

 

[TSSG59]

there's one thing I don't really understand about all this online safety bs, I mean, if the website is not based in UK, like the owner is not an UK citizen and the server that hosts the website is outside of UK, how do they want to force the site owner to comply with their law? Are they going to report you to interpol for breaking the law of the country you don't live in, ban your ip or what?

Well you can be arrested, charged and sentenced for posting anything on social media they don't like so who knows what their next move will be.
Any criticism of illegal migration and you run a big risk of being visited and having your collar felt by the cops.
Interestingly the only defence the government has put up so far is to say if you object to the law you are supporting paedophile's.
What a comment from a party that branded young girls, some as young as 12 years of age, who were systematically raped by gangs of men of mainly Pakistani origin, little sluts.

 

[Insanatee]

Well you can be arrested, charged and sentenced for posting anything on social media they don't like so who knows what their next move will be.
Any criticism of illegal migration and you run a big risk of being visited and having your collar felt by the cops.
Interestingly the only defence the government has put up so far is to say if you object to the law you are supporting paedophile's.
What a comment from a party that branded young girls, some as young as 12 years of age, who were systematically raped by gangs of men of mainly Pakistani origin, little sluts.

Yeah they're all over the place right now. It's been said plenty of times already but they are acting desperate now. It's only been enacted for a few days, I can't imagine what it's going to look like 6 months from now considering it even makes it that far without serious revisions.

 

[koza123456789]

Well you can be arrested, charged and sentenced for posting anything on social media they don't like so who knows what their next move will be.
Any criticism of illegal migration and you run a big risk of being visited and having your collar felt by the cops.
Interestingly the only defence the government has put up so far is to say if you object to the law you are supporting paedophile's.
What a comment from a party that branded young girls, some as young as 12 years of age, who were systematically raped by gangs of men of mainly Pakistani origin, little sluts.

Yeah but that's when you're UK citizen and live there, why would owner of non-uk website give a crap? From what I understand, all they can do is to force UK's ISPs to block some IPs for their users, cause what else could they do?

 

[TSSG59]

Yeah but that's when you're UK citizen and live there, why would owner of non-uk website give a crap? From what I understand, all they can do is to force UK's ISPs to block some IPs for their users, cause what else could they do?

How does China do it?.
The UK government makes no secret of their love of the Chinese Communist Party and it's actions.
Maybe they'll ask them for advice.

 

[SloppyTurdSlapper]

How does China do it?.
The UK government makes no secret of their love of the Chinese Communist Party and it's actions.
Maybe they'll ask them for advice.

From what i know, GB doesnt have a gearscore yet.

 

[TSSG59]

The latest news I have on this saga is that Ofcom's threat to sanction, fine and even imprison executives of American social media companies for not doing what they want contravenes the first amendment and lawyers have forwarded all the alleged threats to the White house.
To say Trump and his administration are angry would be an understatement according to sources close to the president.
Lawyers claim the threats amount to intent to kidnap and false imprisonment of US citizens by the UK government which they also claim potentially carries the death penalty if found guilty
Maybe this farce will founder on the rocks of a US reef and get the bottom torn out after all, once the US administration decides to act which I fully expect them to do.

 

[peterppp]

The latest news I have on this saga is that Ofcom's threat to sanction, fine and even imprison executives of American social media companies for not doing what they want contravenes the first amendment and lawyers have forwarded all the alleged threats to the White house.
To say Trump and his administration are angry would be an understatement according to sources close to the president.
Lawyers claim the threats amount to intent to kidnap and false imprisonment of US citizens by the UK government which they also claim potentially carries the death penalty if found guilty

source?

 

[gabz787878]

man i just hope you guys defead this act...its very annoying to feel like your constantly watched. I know they want us to fear them and im not talking about porn but about politica views. I for one am tired of so many rapes happening irl because of this uncontrolled immigration. Yet they chose to fight fiction.

 

[Count Morado]

That is not a page number. That is someone else saying it's in there, but not actually showing where it says that.

Page number, otherwise it's propaganda.

 

[TSSG59]

source?

It was an American lawyer talking on Facebook to a British interviewer.
He is the one who claims to have received the threatening Emails from the tech companies and forwarded them to the White House.

 

[TSSG59]

man i just hope you guys defead this act...its very annoying to feel like your constantly watched. I know they want us to fear them and im not talking about porn but about politica views. I for one am tired of so many rapes happening irl because of this uncontrolled immigration. Yet they chose to fight fiction.

 

[BETiLose34]

Yeah but that's when you're UK citizen and live there, why would owner of non-uk website give a crap? From what I understand, all they can do is to force UK's ISPs to block some IPs for their users, cause what else could they do?

So im sort of guessing here so take this with a grain of salt.

but I imagine with how countries work with each other the uk would first fine the company if the company denies to pay the fine then the next step is trying to work with law enforcement in that country.

You must be registered to see the links

"The GDPR regulatory authorities have the power to enforce their standards, thanks to international treaties and agreements"

but lets assume that the usa or whatever country the company is from decides not to comply to the agreement (which could effect their ability to enforce their laws in the uk) then the next step would most likely be what you said block ip's from accessing the site or even dns services as well.

So for why would these companies comply could be because they want to keep a UK/EU market
and even if they don't comply their country may force them to so that they can keep their own agreements and treaties from being blocked aswell.

That being said it's possible that the USA may view the uk's rules as too strict and could end up effecting usa citizens rights and step in too stop it on that account. but considering the usa is already headed in the same direction with it's laws I doubt that's gonna happen

 

[Insanatee]

This is getting crazy. I'm trying to be positive about this whole thing but I don't see a lot of ways fighting back against this. I may be delusional but I still believe people won't take this for very long. I can't imagine most people being okay with registering their personal info with their government just to edit a Wikipedia page or watch porn. I'm happy there is pushback in the UK and other countries but it still looks like this is going ahead full steam just like the coof lockdowns. I don't like what's happening but I feel helpless.

 

[MissCougar]

So im sort of guessing here so take this with a grain of salt.

but I imagine with how countries work with each other the uk would first fine the company if the company denies to pay the fine then the next step is trying to work with law enforcement in that country.

You must be registered to see the links

"The GDPR regulatory authorities have the power to enforce their standards, thanks to international treaties and agreements"

but lets assume that the usa or whatever country the company is from decides not to comply to the agreement (which could effect their ability to enforce their laws in the uk) then the next step would most likely be what you said block ip's from accessing the site or even dns services as well.

So for why would these companies comply could be because they want to keep a UK/EU market
and even if they don't comply their country may force them to so that they can keep their own agreements and treaties from being blocked aswell.

That being said it's possible that the USA may view the uk's rules as too strict and could end up effecting usa citizens rights and step in too stop it on that account. but considering the usa is already headed in the same direction with it's laws I doubt that's gonna happen

I'm also curious how this is going to play out. Especially with a lot of these popping up suspiciously close together in a lot of countries.

Our politicians will have to effectively take a stand against child safety, which is a great Trojan horse to herald stuff like this in. "oh you like porn and hate kids safety... yeah ok got it."

The advocacy position is terrible for it. I think the greatest benefit for the US though is how fast it seems like the UK dove headfirst into censorship and little care about actual kids safety. If they had taken their time more and let just the children's safety part simmer a little longer, the US may have less opinion to dislike it. So the people frothing at the mouth for the real reasons they got this (not to help kids at all, but censor their citizenry), may be an advantage the US companies will force the US government to act upon.

Time will tell though, but I think the internet of the future will be much less free than it was a month ago.

 

[SorryMsJackson4eels]

I'm also curious how this is going to play out. Especially with a lot of these popping up suspiciously close together in a lot of countries.

Our politicians will have to effectively take a stand against child safety, which is a great Trojan horse to herald stuff like this in. "oh you like porn and hate kids safety... yeah ok got it."

The advocacy position is terrible for it. I think the greatest benefit for the US though is how fast it seems like the UK dove headfirst into censorship and little care about actual kids safety. If they had taken their time more and let just the children's safety part simmer a little longer, the US may have less opinion to dislike it. So the people frothing at the mouth for the real reasons they got this (not to help kids at all, but censor their citizenry), may be an advantage the US companies will force the US government to act upon.

Time will tell though, but I think the internet of the future will be much less free than it was a month ago.

Between the rising tides of right wing sentiments in the world, Trump's bullshit and now all this Epstein stuff, a lot of the puzzle pieces seem to be inching together. But who knows, I don't think tin foil hats work all that well anymore.

 

[MissCougar]

Between the rising tides of right wing sentiments in the world, Trump's bullshit and now all this Epstein stuff, a lot of the puzzle pieces seem to be inching together. But who knows, I don't think tin foil hats work all that well anymore.

That's a whole lot of topics in a single thing. Sometimes there are events that just aren't connected together. Like the online censorship stuff I think has been in the oven a lot longer than the recent Epstein trash.

 

[SorryMsJackson4eels]

That's a whole lot of topics in a single thing. Sometimes there are events that just aren't connected together. Like the online censorship stuff I think has been in the oven a lot longer than the recent Epstein trash.

You're probably right. Been doomscrolling too much lol