UK age verification laws. Question to the admins.

imsorry3

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I would argue that it was not China who brought that up. Sure that Country has its problems, but you should take a look at Singapore and its utopian ideology. Southeast Asia is highly advanced when it comes to watching you.
I have nothing against China or the Chinese people, it's a rich culture with many strengths.
But their government's panoptical ambitions .
By China own admission:
"Western critics accuse China of being authoritarian, but they don’t realize that their own future may look like China’s present. With the rise of digital surveillance, big data, and state capitalism, the West is unconsciously moving toward a system that resembles China’s. The difference is that China is ahead of the curve."
- Zhang Weiying, China Economic Forum, 2018

And it looks like they were right. We're following suit.
 

tretch95

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These laws are absolutely laughable.

In some countries, you need to show your face on a webcam, holding up your birth certificate and passport or other ID. Even if you just want to watch a PG-16 hollywood movie before 10 PM.

F95zone will clearly not implement anything like this, so the site will be blocked in your country, and you will use a VPN just like people in countries like Iran have been doing for years just to access a less filtered internet.




Now, some smartasses will say that you also have to show your ID if you want to buy a beer (strange enough because i never had to, even at 13-14).

Well, for a beer ID check you don't have to register online and send your most sensitive data to 3rd party companies which are almost guaranteed to lose your private data in a leak, or misappropriate it in other ways.




This whole system is crazy, adults are bereft of their most basic rights just on behalf of parents being too stupid/lazy to control their children's internet usage. Family controls are there, they work, and anyone not using them is a fucking dickhead who should be bereft of his rights to raise children instead.
 

tretch95

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And the biggest joke here is:

This doesn't do jack to actually protect children; because children



A) can still use their parents' unblocked computer once the ID verification is set up (they find ways if they want to)

and

B) it does not stop any actual dangers to a child's mind, which happen on unrestricted web spaces

Example when kids are sending each other extreme porn (the type you don't find on YouPorn) over their school chats, or other grotesqueries like videos of IRL torture, beheadings, kitten getting thrown into a blender, that's all the stuff appearing every day in the various Whatsapp channels set up for school classes all the way down to elementary school grades. Not to mention other platforms specifically aimed at children; like TikTok or Snapchat being the prime playgrounds for child molesters to make contact with children.


To add insult to injury, children are not even interested in porn, for fuck's sake.
Sure, i also saw my first hardcore porn when i was like 8-9 years old, but it didn't impact me and i had a completely normal sex life once i became a teenager.
 

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Popped up on my FB feed.
That's called a "desinformation campaign".

Can't say whether this originates from the Kremlin or the new Washington DC syndicate, but it's obvious that they want to rouse anger against the government by any means possible. They already got you with the Online Safety Act, while less educated people are falling for mentions of "illegal channel crossings" or some "grooming gang scandal" from what... 30 years ago?

And women's rights being suppressed in the UK, of course. Makes me wonder why they didn't mention LGBT rights as well.

And the Polar Bears, dear god. Save the Polar Bears by voting "leave" - they actually used that in the Brexit campaign with personalized ads based on the Cambridge Analytica data.




It's like they serve you a vegetarian hamburger pizza with sushi and kong-pow burrito toppings, hoping that there's something for everyone to bite.

It is one thing to have a legit concern - like the Online Safety Act - but that's just too obvious bait.
 

tretch95

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In the UK, around 49% of people had used a VPN on at least one device before the recent changes.
That's because paid VPNs are being massively advertised, even for people who are like 80 years old and only use the web on their PC for e-mail correspondence and stuff like that. So there are many groups for whom a VPN only causes unnecessary costs, and slows down the traffic with no actual advantage. Yet they buy it because it's on sale, or the ad seemed trustworthy enough.

There is no way that 49% in any country would have the awareness of a VPN or TOR being a healthy online safety measure for their own good. This is just based on the fact that about 95% are throwing around their phone numbers and personal information on their phone apps, making any attempts to increase privacy and safety useless.

For example the Pegasus software - one silent call to your phone number, and the phone is already under control of the hacker. Yet people use their phone number to log into apps and verify their identity with it. Shouldn't this be your best kept secret then? Nope, just use it to log on to some porn chatbot. You can totally trust companies like Google or Facebook. Yeah.
 
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For example the Pegasus software - one silent call to your phone number, and the phone is already under control of the hacker. Yet people use their phone number to log into apps and verify their identity with it. Shouldn't this be your best kept secret then? Nope, just use it to log on to some porn chatbot. You can totally trust companies like Google or Facebook. Yeah.
Yeah just log in to Janitor AI with it, your buddy G will keep the secret yo...

At this point I'm absolutely ready for some crazy ass movement to leak all of our info and fuck us all, since everyone knows what we do and it's so easy to just screw you over. It's almost insane.
 
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niuziren12

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the solution would be for parents to be responsible for their kids education. Parents buy kids iphones, give them unrestricted internet... That's the parents faults. There's parental locks and stuff like that..

They could just whitelist sites that are ok for kids: youtube, wikipedia, etc. If your kid visits pornhub, the problem is why is ur kid visiting that site in the first place... That's the root problem.
However, China's surveillance system has serious consequences.

The blood and body data of the Chinese people can be easily obtained. Therefore, criminal organizations in neighboring countries collaborate with local governments to identify targeted Chinese individuals. Ultimately, these individuals are kidnapped and murdered, and their organs are sold on the black market. This is a silent massacre, because if anyone attempts to investigate, the Chinese government will stop them under the pretext of maintaining social stability and protecting children.
 

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However, China's surveillance system has serious consequences.

The blood and body data of the Chinese people can be easily obtained. Therefore, criminal organizations in neighboring countries collaborate with local governments to identify targeted Chinese individuals. Ultimately, these individuals are kidnapped and murdered, and their organs are sold on the black market. This is a silent massacre, because if anyone attempts to investigate, the Chinese government will stop them under the pretext of maintaining social stability and protecting children.
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Alice_Margatroid43

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The biggest problem for me is I have literally no form of ID. I can't get a driver licence or passport due to my birth certificate going missing, I am still trying to find the bloody thing as I need to get a passport by next year as my Uncle has paid for me and my brother to visit him in the Texas. The UK government doesn't have free ID, or citizen cards as those things were scrapped years ago. If I decide to ever comply with this law, I doubt a shotgun certificate would be accepted by them anyway.
 

TSSG59

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That's called a "desinformation campaign".

Can't say whether this originates from the Kremlin or the new Washington DC syndicate, but it's obvious that they want to rouse anger against the government by any means possible. They already got you with the Online Safety Act, while less educated people are falling for mentions of "illegal channel crossings" or some "grooming gang scandal" from what... 30 years ago?

And women's rights being suppressed in the UK, of course. Makes me wonder why they didn't mention LGBT rights as well.

And the Polar Bears, dear god. Save the Polar Bears by voting "leave" - they actually used that in the Brexit campaign with personalized ads based on the Cambridge Analytica data.




It's like they serve you a vegetarian hamburger pizza with sushi and kong-pow burrito toppings, hoping that there's something for everyone to bite.

It is one thing to have a legit concern - like the Online Safety Act - but that's just too obvious bait.
It was from a UK based free speech organisation who have already started to take legal action against the government.
 
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The biggest problem for me is I have literally no form of ID. I can't get a driver licence or passport due to my birth certificate going missing, I am still trying to find the bloody thing as I need to get a passport by next year as my Uncle has paid for me and my brother to visit him in the Texas. The UK government doesn't have free ID, or citizen cards as those things were scrapped years ago. If I decide to ever comply with this law, I doubt a shotgun certificate would be accepted by them anyway.
You can request copies of your birth certificate from your local registrar.
 
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Britain’s MPs charge VPNs to expenses as minister urges caution Technology Secretary Peter Kyle appeared to suggest that VPN use could put children at risk.
July 31, 2025 6:10 pm CET
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LONDON — MPs are connecting to virtual private networks (VPNs) as the U.K. government’s tech chief pleads with Brits to use them with care.
A POLITICO analysis of MPs’ expenses data shows that British lawmakers, including senior government ministers, are using commercial VPN software — and have charged their subscriptions to the public on expenses.
MPs with subscriptions include Business Secretary Jonathan Reynolds, who expensed a two-year subscription for NordVPN in April 2024 — and Labour MP Sarah Champion, who in 2022 urged the then-Conservative government to examine if widespread VPN usage among teenagers could undermine the protections afforded by age checks.
The government has no plans to ban VPNs — which create a secure, encrypted connection over the internet — but is closely monitoring how young people use them.
It’s not surprising that lawmakers use VPNs given they “handle highly sensitive information daily,” from confidential government documents to private constituent communications, and often connect to unsecured networks when traveling or working remotely, said NordVPN’s Chief Technology Officer Marijus Briedis.
VPNs can “protect this data from potential interception by malicious actors or foreign state-sponsored surveillance” and make it harder for these groups to track officials’ whereabouts, he said.
For the public, too, VPNs “should be seen as a standard online security measure — much like encrypted communications and secure passwords,” said David Peterson, General Manager of Proton VPN.
But as VPN downloads skyrocketed in the U.K. this week after platforms implemented age checks to comply with extensive new duties under the , Technology Secretary Peter Kyle appeared to suggest that their use put children at risk.
“For everybody who’s out there thinking of using VPNs, let me just say to you directly: verifying your age keeps a child safe, keeps children safe in our country. So, let’s just not try and find a way around,” he told the BBC.
Banning VPNs is “not on the cards," he added. "I just want to urge caution in how people are using them."
A government spokesperson said: “We make no apology for holding platforms to account, to ensure they prevent children from bypassing safety protections. This includes blocking content that promotes VPNs and other workarounds, when they are aimed specifically at young users.
“More broadly, there are a range of legitimate reasons why adults might use VPNs which do not cut across children’s safety online.”
The government has no plans to ban VPNs — which create a secure, encrypted connection over the internet — but is closely monitoring how young people use them. | Photo Illustration by Avishek Das/SOPA Images/LightRocket via Getty Images Blackmail risk
DSIT didn’t comment when asked to clarify why verifying adults’ ages would prevent children from encountering harmful content, as Kyle seemed to claim.
“Using a VPN reduces [your] risk of being blackmailed over a data leak from an age assurance provider,” said James Baker, platform power and free expression programme manager at Open Rights Group.
The digital rights organization has long warned that a lack of regulation could see third-party vendors of age assurance compete to offer platforms cheap services at the expense of data security.
It’s “no wonder” members of the public are turning to VPNs. “Age assurance has been done badly and there is no trust to hand some providers their details,” Baker added.
 

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Britain’s MPs charge VPNs to expenses as minister urges caution Technology Secretary Peter Kyle appeared to suggest that VPN use could put children at risk.
July 31, 2025 6:10 pm CET
By and

LONDON — MPs are connecting to virtual private networks (VPNs) as the U.K. government’s tech chief pleads with Brits to use them with care.
A POLITICO analysis of MPs’ expenses data shows that British lawmakers, including senior government ministers, are using commercial VPN software — and have charged their subscriptions to the public on expenses.
MPs with subscriptions include Business Secretary Jonathan Reynolds, who expensed a two-year subscription for NordVPN in April 2024 — and Labour MP Sarah Champion, who in 2022 urged the then-Conservative government to examine if widespread VPN usage among teenagers could undermine the protections afforded by age checks.
The government has no plans to ban VPNs — which create a secure, encrypted connection over the internet — but is closely monitoring how young people use them.
It’s not surprising that lawmakers use VPNs given they “handle highly sensitive information daily,” from confidential government documents to private constituent communications, and often connect to unsecured networks when traveling or working remotely, said NordVPN’s Chief Technology Officer Marijus Briedis.
VPNs can “protect this data from potential interception by malicious actors or foreign state-sponsored surveillance” and make it harder for these groups to track officials’ whereabouts, he said.
For the public, too, VPNs “should be seen as a standard online security measure — much like encrypted communications and secure passwords,” said David Peterson, General Manager of Proton VPN.
But as VPN downloads skyrocketed in the U.K. this week after platforms implemented age checks to comply with extensive new duties under the , Technology Secretary Peter Kyle appeared to suggest that their use put children at risk.
“For everybody who’s out there thinking of using VPNs, let me just say to you directly: verifying your age keeps a child safe, keeps children safe in our country. So, let’s just not try and find a way around,” he told the BBC.
Banning VPNs is “not on the cards," he added. "I just want to urge caution in how people are using them."
A government spokesperson said: “We make no apology for holding platforms to account, to ensure they prevent children from bypassing safety protections. This includes blocking content that promotes VPNs and other workarounds, when they are aimed specifically at young users.
“More broadly, there are a range of legitimate reasons why adults might use VPNs which do not cut across children’s safety online.”
The government has no plans to ban VPNs — which create a secure, encrypted connection over the internet — but is closely monitoring how young people use them. | Photo Illustration by Avishek Das/SOPA Images/LightRocket via Getty Images Blackmail risk
DSIT didn’t comment when asked to clarify why verifying adults’ ages would prevent children from encountering harmful content, as Kyle seemed to claim.
“Using a VPN reduces [your] risk of being blackmailed over a data leak from an age assurance provider,” said James Baker, platform power and free expression programme manager at Open Rights Group.
The digital rights organization has long warned that a lack of regulation could see third-party vendors of age assurance compete to offer platforms cheap services at the expense of data security.
It’s “no wonder” members of the public are turning to VPNs. “Age assurance has been done badly and there is no trust to hand some providers their details,” Baker added.
They're admitting the govt. uses VPNs and charges those expenses to the public AND they want people to pay anyway???

Also " verifying your age keeps a child safe" is one hell of a line, lol.
 

Viper9x

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Britain’s MPs charge VPNs to expenses as minister urges caution Technology Secretary Peter Kyle appeared to suggest that VPN use could put children at risk.
July 31, 2025 6:10 pm CET
By and

LONDON — MPs are connecting to virtual private networks (VPNs) as the U.K. government’s tech chief pleads with Brits to use them with care.
A POLITICO analysis of MPs’ expenses data shows that British lawmakers, including senior government ministers, are using commercial VPN software — and have charged their subscriptions to the public on expenses.
MPs with subscriptions include Business Secretary Jonathan Reynolds, who expensed a two-year subscription for NordVPN in April 2024 — and Labour MP Sarah Champion, who in 2022 urged the then-Conservative government to examine if widespread VPN usage among teenagers could undermine the protections afforded by age checks.
The government has no plans to ban VPNs — which create a secure, encrypted connection over the internet — but is closely monitoring how young people use them.
It’s not surprising that lawmakers use VPNs given they “handle highly sensitive information daily,” from confidential government documents to private constituent communications, and often connect to unsecured networks when traveling or working remotely, said NordVPN’s Chief Technology Officer Marijus Briedis.
VPNs can “protect this data from potential interception by malicious actors or foreign state-sponsored surveillance” and make it harder for these groups to track officials’ whereabouts, he said.
For the public, too, VPNs “should be seen as a standard online security measure — much like encrypted communications and secure passwords,” said David Peterson, General Manager of Proton VPN.
But as VPN downloads skyrocketed in the U.K. this week after platforms implemented age checks to comply with extensive new duties under the , Technology Secretary Peter Kyle appeared to suggest that their use put children at risk.
“For everybody who’s out there thinking of using VPNs, let me just say to you directly: verifying your age keeps a child safe, keeps children safe in our country. So, let’s just not try and find a way around,” he told the BBC.
Banning VPNs is “not on the cards," he added. "I just want to urge caution in how people are using them."
A government spokesperson said: “We make no apology for holding platforms to account, to ensure they prevent children from bypassing safety protections. This includes blocking content that promotes VPNs and other workarounds, when they are aimed specifically at young users.
“More broadly, there are a range of legitimate reasons why adults might use VPNs which do not cut across children’s safety online.”
The government has no plans to ban VPNs — which create a secure, encrypted connection over the internet — but is closely monitoring how young people use them. | Photo Illustration by Avishek Das/SOPA Images/LightRocket via Getty Images Blackmail risk
DSIT didn’t comment when asked to clarify why verifying adults’ ages would prevent children from encountering harmful content, as Kyle seemed to claim.
“Using a VPN reduces [your] risk of being blackmailed over a data leak from an age assurance provider,” said James Baker, platform power and free expression programme manager at Open Rights Group.
The digital rights organization has long warned that a lack of regulation could see third-party vendors of age assurance compete to offer platforms cheap services at the expense of data security.
It’s “no wonder” members of the public are turning to VPNs. “Age assurance has been done badly and there is no trust to hand some providers their details,” Baker added.
As someone from the uk i am not surprised :FacePalm:, politics absolutely stinks here, it has for decades. but given whats going on i am so glad i have used a vpn for a number of years. I signed the petition but i have no hope for the act getting repealed.
 
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TSSG59

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They say politics is a dirty business and boy is that true.
Let pensioners freeze over winter with the highest energy prices in the world while politicians claim heating allowance for their first, second and third homes.
Half of them then stay in grace and favour homes or hotels which the tax payer also gets billed for along with all the local taxes.
A dirty business indeed.
 

niuziren12

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I would argue that it was not China who brought that up. Sure that Country has its problems, but you should take a look at Singapore and its utopian ideology. Southeast Asia is highly advanced when it comes to watching you.
The Chinese government holds its so-called Internet Conference every year, with participation from many countries.
The conference focuses on how it monitors citizens' information.
Similar schemes exist across Southeast Asia, but China alone is keen to export this ideology.
China collaborates with left-wing organizations in many countries.