Collection Unreal Engine Under the Witch [v2024-11-26] [NumericGazer]

[babykeem]

Not necessarily, for example, someone can be 30 years old but look "young" as if they're 17 instead.
Someone doesn't need to be "smaller in size" in order to look "young".

cope. in this particular case you said "Actually, he may be the youngest" refering to his overall age, not that he may "look the youngest" like in the example you just made up. so once again, "actually, he may be the smallest" would be a better way to say it.

there's a differance between looking young and being young. why do i have to lecture u on this

My point was, the game is targeted towards more fetishes than just "female domination", so, just like there are people like you who loves the game because of "femdom", there are also people who loves the game for other fetishes.

someone might be turned on by the mc, idc. but the fact of the matter is that we're the mc, so it's kind of like getting turned on by yourself in a sense since we're the player.

No? You've like completely missed the point here on top of heavily implying as if a certain type of sexuality is "disgusting".
Like I've stated, the game is targeted towards more fetishes than just "femdom" which you're in denial towards.

oh yes, i think being into the male equivalent of lolis is disguisting for very rational reasons. and i'm allowed to have that opinion. some people even like shit and piss

Also, you're conflating fantasy in fiction with reality. For example, I can find an anime character the same sex as me attractive, that doesn't mean I'm attracted to the same sex in real life. Just like I can find brutally murdering NPCs in games as "fun", doesn't mean I'm a "psychopath" in real life. Not to mention the obvious fact that anime characters look nowhere close to real people.

lissen my dear. people often treat attractiveness and attraction as the same thing, but they really aren't. in reality, these two concepts get at similar but different ideas. you can find someone attractive, but you still may not be attracted to them. i can say that some guys look attractive, that means they might attract people. but it doesnt mean that i'm one of the people who's attracted. acknowledging someone to be attractive don't mean ur attracted to them. so yeah ur probably not so sus for finding someone to be attractive.

also i'm no psychologist but if ur straight up sexually attracted to someone whos the same sex as you then you might be bi or gay.

and ur game example doesn't really hold up, sexual arousal doesn't have the same meaning as having fun so they're fundementally different. one is something you do as a hobby because your brain likes to play, another is your brain wanting you to mate.

If you're comparing the MC with a character that looks like they haven't even hit puberty, obviously he's a lot older than that character.
But he's still literally an anime boy, who at best appears to be teen, certainly not a "man" especially when compared to the woman who calls him a "boy".
(And no, this isn't exclusively to show "superiority", that's the same logic as making a kid character and slapping the "2000 years old")

great that you use "teen". wikipedia says "Traditionally, it includes ages 10 to 19, but an expansive definition includes ages 10 to 24..." so he could very well be 18+. also "boy" still gets used by my elders when adressing me even though im well over 18, so it's not an entirely clear thing especially considering the fact that this game is translated and the word she uses to say "boy" might have a different meaning in japan when it comes to the "age groups" it inhabits. but yes he might not be a man depending on ur definition of things, totally ok if u think that way

 

[RedAISkye]

ur delusioned. in this particular case you said "Actually, he may be the youngest" refering to his overall age

And I just told you that I meant to refer to their appearance and not age? So, correction would be "Actually, he may be the youngest looking".
I don't think you even know what "delusion" means as that makes no sense in this context. And you edited that into "cope", now it's just cringe.

there's a differance between looking young and being young. why do i have to lecture u on this

No shit, sherlock. The point, again, was that people are attracted by the aspect of "looking young" so it doesn't matter how old they actually are.
Shotacons/Lolicons aren't going to "no longer be interested" just because the "kid looking character" was actually 2000 years old vampire. Age is completely irrelevant to the fetish at hand.

someone might be turned on by the mc, idc. but the fact of the matter is that we're the mc, so it's kind of like getting turned on by yourself in a sense since we're the player.

That's your own fantasy, not everyone fantasizes by pretending they're the MC.
For me, it's the MILFs raping a kid so even if I were to put myself in MC's shoes, the act would be the same. So, while some may be attracted by the Shota character themselves just like I am attracted by MILF character. To me when it comes to shotacon, it's about the act of the MILF character fucking the Shota which is a depiction of pedophilia which isn't going to change whether that Shota is the MC/YOU or NPC.

oh yes, i think being into the male equivalent of lolis is disguisting for very rational reasons.

i'm no psychologist but if ur straight up attracted to someone whos the same sex as you then you might be bi or gay.

Makes sense why you're trying so hard to pretend the MC isn't a Shota.

You also missed the part where I said "being attracted to a fictional anime character" who look nowhere close to real people.
So, there's a huge difference between "being attracted to a fictional character of your same sex" and "being attracted to someone of your same sex".

I know right, it's a crazy concept that people love certain things in fiction that they don't in reality.
If I were an anime character inside the fictional universe, sure, I'd be a bisexual 12 year old kid who loves fucking MILFs without their consent and kissing hot anime guys. But, I'm not a fictional character, I'm an actual human being who unlike you, can differentiate "my fantasies in fiction" from "reality where morals would apply for actual rational reasons".

and i'm allowed to have that opinion. some people even like shit and piss

Not sure if you're just fetish shaming or pretending to be morally superior by implying a non-issue is a "moral problem".

great that you use "teen". wikipedia says...

I'm not going to bother respond to your pointless argument where you're just playing semantics as again, you could say the MC is over 2000 years old adult, my point still stands about this being a matter about their appearance and not age.

The dev knows exactly what they're doing. 2 more minor characters being added should be obvious by now that this isn't just your "femdom" game which you're pretending as just because you hate certain fetishes based on your incorrect assumptions.

The MC always has been a Shota and there will be 1 more Shota even younger than the MC including a Loli. So, what's your point? That the game has nothing to do with Shotacon/Lolicon even though they blatantly exist?

 

[dcfgv0hjnnbvcffxdgrfghfgc]

if anyone has a link to the supposed 1.5 or 1.6 please post link inside hear

 

[dcfgv0hjnnbvcffxdgrfghfgc]

You must be registered to see the links

version 1.5

version 1.6 is the latest

this is just the dlsite version that came out in june and is censored

 

[RedAISkye]

this is just the dlsite version that came out in june and is censored

You can use the v2.1 uncensor patch(

You must be registered to see the links

) for it. I tested it, works fine.

 

[babykeem]

And I just told you that I meant to refer to their appearance and not age? So, correction would be "Actually, he may be the youngest looking".

both corrections are better than whatever shit you typed at first

That's your own fantasy, not everyone fantasizes by pretending they're the MC.

that's the fundemental truth though, this is a game where you're the one who's controlling the mc, you're the player. the mc being nameless, only known as "hero" further indicates this truth because why would they want to name him "ronald mccdonald", that's not you!

Makes sense why you're trying so hard to pretend the MC isn't a Shota.

but my friend u dont understand,im the mc! EVEN IF the character was a male kid, i was a male kid too! and im not attracted to myself. the mc is supposed to be us, the player. there's nothing sus about that. even if my mc was a grandpa that wouldnt mean im attracted to old guys. ur logic is twisted af

and there's no pretending involved, but you can call it that if you wanna ignore the multiple arguments i've presented that you've read that you just cannot deny. but copium works in different ways so ur still in denial about it.

You also missed the part where I said "being attracted to a fictional anime character" who look nowhere close to real people.

I know right, it's a crazy concept that people love certain things in fiction that they don't in reality.
If I were an anime character inside the fictional universe, sure, I'd be a bisexual 12 year old kid who loves fucking MILFs without their consent. But, I'm not a fictional character, I'm an actual human being who unlike you, can differentiate "my fantasies in fiction" from "reality where morals would apply for actual rational reasons".

it works for most things that are more connected with hobbies n stuff but sexual arousal is completely different. sexual arousal isn't something you just turn off, it lurks in your subconcious. like if i see a porn video i'm going to get turned even if im trying my hardest not to, my body reacts on it's own. it probably has to do with the testosterone or something, you can do that little experiment yourself right now. if you like big breasted girls and you walk out the beach and see the maddest bitch with some double d's then you're obviously going to like that, you might even get a bulge in ur pants. that's why it's a bit suspicious if you're specifically turned on by something like, ahem, """"SMALL WOMEN""", or something more universal like someone that's same sex which is not bad.

but ayo if ur bisexual or gay it's completely okay, its 2022 and i got tons of gay friends like u. its not something to be ashamed of ok? keep it real with urself, like dont be in denial about it trying to slither around ur gayness avoiding it. no need bro trust me

ima halt down and not argue wit u as much cause it's getting sluggish and repetitive. good talkin!

 

[RedAISkye]

but ayo if ur bisexual or gay it's completely okay, its 2022 and i got tons of gay friends like u. its not something to be ashamed of ok? keep it real with urself, like dont be in denial about it trying to slither around ur gayness avoiding it. no need bro trust me

Not going to take you seriously at this point especially when you have no idea of the terms you use to begin with.

But if you're that curious about me, I'm straight, so, thanks for the offer but no thanks even if you offer me your female friend, as I'm not interested in having a relationship, let alone with someone that I'm not attracted towards.

But hey, HMU if you ever find a hot male/female anime character in real life, I'm very much down for that.

if you like big breasted girls and you walk out the beach and see the maddest bitch with some double d's then you're obviously going to like that

Actually, no, I love big boobs on an anime girl, sure, real life though, I prefer normal size breasts. I don't find that Hitomi Tanaka type of shit sexually attractive but hey, you can assume whatever you want to try and turn this into a personal attack just to weasel out of the actual point being made. Because anime characters resemble real life human beings exactly the same right? So, oh no, I can't have different opinions depending on fiction or reality because this is a "sexual" thing right? Bud, there's a reason why I prefer and consume exclusively hentai/3d porn and don't care for real life porn.

Because you're totally right, I'm just lying about "me not being attracted to same sex and double D breasts in real life" and I'm just "hiding in a closet because of shame" and not because that's just how I feel.
Lol, people in real life judge me for being a male with long hair, you think I care about what people may think about me if I like x or y?
Spoiler Alert: No, I don't but I know it's hard for you to believe because you're insecure about your own self. (If I were insecure like you though, I would've cut my hair short so people don't tell me "haha, girl". Glad that I'm not insecure like you as I would hate having short hair just to be called a "man" for whatever society stigmatizes as)

both corrections are better than whatever shit you typed at first

Not sorry I didn't phrase my words perfectly correct at first which led to you misinterpreting me even though I told you twice that I actually meant this and not that but you're still being stubborn about it for some reason.

even if my mc was a grandpa that wouldnt mean im attracted to old guys

Please point out where I said you were attracted to the MC? My whole point has always been about this game being targeted towards shotcon/lolicon audience and not just femdom like you. So, I don't know why you're stuck with this narrative that liking the game means you must love all fetishes that are in the game.

 

[babykeem]

But hey, HMU if you ever find a hot male/female anime character in real life, I'm very much down for that.

yea bro there are tons of them over where i live

Actually, no, I love big boobs on an anime girl, sure, real life though, I prefer normal size breasts. I don't find that Hitomi Tanaka type of shit sexually attractive but hey, you can assume whatever you want to try and turn this into a personal attack just to weasel out of the actual point being made. Because anime characters resemble real life human beings exactly the same right? So, oh no, I can't have different opinions depending on fiction or reality because this is a "sexual" thing.

Because you're totally right, I'm just lying about "me not being attracted to same sex and double D breasts in real life" and I'm just "hiding in a closet because of shame" and not because that's just how I feel.
Lol, people in real life judge me for being a male with long hair, you think I care about what people may think about me if I like x or y? Spoiler Alert: No, I don't but I know it's hard for you to believe because you're insecure about your own self.

personal attack? i'm not personally attacking you i'm just having argument about.. all types of shit really. discussion became super wide lol. but you know what ur having is completely normal some guys like girl from mylittlepony but not real horse.

i understand it, fiction can be different from real world. but my point still stands that sexual attraction is involuntary, and if ur specifically liking for example, ahem, """SMALL WOMAN "" then i dont prefer u to go near school zones, u get what i mean? and this game is adding this to the game instead of thick milfs, succubuses and that long vampire mommy from resident evil so i hate it.

u should still be open with u sexuality and if you really like men like u said then you can go find guy because its not so wrong anymore to do it, you can be gay, lesbian, transexual and u can do what you want cause its new age now. or maybe ur living in a different country where they will not allow it? then i feel sorry for u. but it was nice to talk to you

 

[RedAISkye]

i understand it, fiction can be different from real world. but my point still stands that sexual attraction is involuntary, and if ur specifically liking for example, ahem, """SMALL WOMAN "" then i dont prefer u to go near school zones, u get what i mean?

There are two things here:-
First, you're implying as if "liking an anime kid" is the same as "liking an actual child". Nope, they're not.
Otherwise please tell me why am I sexually attracted to NTR/Rape/ShotaconxMILF in fiction but in real life, I extremely hate the act of cheating, rape and pedophilia? (Also, why do I find hentai size breasts/certain anime males attractive but in real life, I don't find such large breasts and same sex attractive?)
Let me answer it for you: it's because my tastes in fiction and reality are completely different(some things obviously can be common like liking breasts over ass), but more importantly when it comes to immoral acts, I have morals, I don't enjoy sentient beings being harmed in real life. The same can't be said for fiction where no one's harmed other than pixels.

Second, there are adult men/women in real life that look "small", you're telling me it's wrong for another adult to find them attractive even though they're aware they're an adult and not a child? Because that's what you're implying by making a blanket statement.

But continue denying the difference between "being attracted to fictional character" vs "being attracted to young looking adults" while putting the two the same as "being attracted to an actual child".
It's the same dumb argument as "Violent video games causes violence", "the serial killer loves GTA so everyone else that likes GTA also must have psychopathic tendencies".
These are all nothing but nice mental gymnastics and virtue signalling to create a scapegoat.

u should still be open with u sexuality and if you really like men like u said then you can go find guy because its not so wrong anymore to do it, you can be gay, lesbian, transexual and u can do what you want cause its new age now.

Not sure if you're projecting yourself here by all that insecurity that you're putting off but bud, I'm sexually attracted to the opposite sex so I am straight, If I were sexually attracted to the same sex or both then I would be gay or bisexual. Unlike you, I'm not ashamed of myself for the things that I like. Again, people make fun of me for having a long hair but I don't care how "feminine" it is that they say, I like what I like. So, no, I wouldn't give a shit If I was whatever other sexuality. I'm very much open about my tastes however "grey-area" people like you will consider it.
But good job de-railing the topic here.

and this game is adding this to the game

Cool bro, if you don't like it, don't play it, no one's forcing you here. Take your virtue signalling nonsense to twitter about how immoral this game is and how "pedo" the dev is for making it. But let me guess, you'll rather continue pirating the game while secretly enjoying the said content that you pretend to hate so much. You should get out of the closet bro, it's 2022, it's okay to like "fictional anime kids", it's pretty normalized in Japan just like "violence in fiction" is normalized globally.

Lastly, let me ask you this again:

Please point out where I said you were attracted to the MC? My whole point has always been about this game being targeted towards shotcon/lolicon audience and not just femdom like you. So, I don't know why you're stuck with this narrative that liking the game means you must love all fetishes that are in the game.

Oh, nvm, don't answer any of that since I will not be seeing any more of your messages after you've admitted to being the SJW that cares about "fictional kids" so much like I expected while ironically enjoying the same fictional kid fucking the thick milfs. Oh, right, the fictional kid that looks like he's not even in highschool is a "MAN" in your eyes so it's okay.

 

[babykeem]

i just noticed i'm way out of my leauge here, i give up

i'm not the chosen one to go against the ceo of lolis. if someone else wants to take over they can, but i warn u, this guy is beyond saving

but yeah, uuhhhh, good night

 

[RossoX]

Ah yes, surely the size difference is there ONLY to target towards people with "female domination" fetish and clearly has nothing to do with shotacon/lolicon fetishes.

After all there is a sub-genre of femdom named "lolidom", which should be obvious what it is all about. I dunno if it only exists in japan, but it does exist. Could be that numericgazer is into it but choose to start the project with the usual more mature domme Dealer, or maybe is appealing to his growing fanbase. But in the end that is a moot point; she is coming and I'm all ready for it.

Also I'd sincerely advise against trying to reason with a certain "character" in this thread. It has been clear from the start that the double standards and mental dissonance is strong with that one. It only leads to wall of texts derailing the thread and is an exercise in futility.

Loli is Life

 

[wasd123333]

Y'all are writing research essays, taking hours of time and effort to argue the most dumbest topic in the world, making yourselves look so stupid, and yet no one can update the many people here who are asking,

which freaking version is which?!?

There's 1.1, 1.4, 1.5, 1.6, 1.6 censored, 1.4 uncensored, 1.4+ 1.1, and ver 0.2.0 alpha 11

And it doesn't help these are scattered across multiple platforms.

 

[ZorasSon]

Y'all are writing research essays, taking hours of time and effort to argue the most dumbest topic in the world, making yourselves look so stupid, and yet no one can update the many people here who are asking,

which freaking version is which?!?

There's 1.1, 1.4, 1.5, 1.6, 1.6 censored, 1.4 uncensored, 1.4+ 1.1, and ver 0.2.0 alpha 11

And it doesn't help these are scattered across multiple platforms.

From what I saw the latest versions are 1.6 from dlsite and 6.1 from itch.io. I think they're the same? 1.6 is from the original creator and the 6.1 is from a "publisher" of sorts (from the looks of it -- looks official). The itch.io page also says that the latest version has both chapters in one.

 

[RedAISkye]

which freaking version is which?!?

There's 1.1, 1.4, 1.5, 1.6, 1.6 censored, 1.4 uncensored, 1.4+ 1.1, and ver 0.2.0 alpha 11

And it doesn't help these are scattered across multiple platforms.

The versioning may be reversed at

You must be registered to see the links

.
If you look at the dates, v1.5 on

You must be registered to see the links

appears to be the same as v5.1 on itch, and they recently released v6.1(v1.6).

But then the changelog is also different for both and the uncensor patch for itch.io's v2.1 works for dlsite's v1.5 so can't tell for sure at this point.

 

[xellos616]

You must be registered to see the links

NumericGazer - Under the Witch: Beginnings Ver.1.6 Dlsite Final (eng)

 

[RedAISkye]

You must be registered to see the links

You're promoting a literal paywall scam right there trying to sell its "premium subscription".
Free downloads are capped at 2GB max file size with 35kb/s top speed.(btw, that's kilobits, not even kilobytes)
You're better off supporting the dev by buying from the official source than giving a cent to these scammers.

 

[dcfgv0hjnnbvcffxdgrfghfgc]

You can use the v2.1 uncensor patch(

You must be registered to see the links

) for it. I tested it, works fine.

Thanks i already got the OG uncensored patch back when it came out

 

[dcfgv0hjnnbvcffxdgrfghfgc]

ok Can we establish a rule no links unless they are Google drive, dropbox or mega and they can not have max ax downloads on them.

 

[RedAISkye]

Thanks i already got the OG uncensored patch back when it came out

I was talking about uncensoring the v1.5 build, the original patch is for v1.1.

 

[dcfgv0hjnnbvcffxdgrfghfgc]

I was talking about uncensoring the v1.5 build, the original patch is for v1.1.

OK i have the original utw that is already uncesored and the latest utw the alice one i got the patch for that, i assume theat the original utw is episode 0 but i already got that years ago, unless is their something new in the original one