VN Ren'Py Underboss Life [v0.1] [ERANFER]

[korochan48]

It was really great but very short. Keep up the good work.

 

[testers123456]

I will, don't worry. I'm thinking to use an image instead. But we'll see... Thanks for reminding me btw!

np
Also, do you know about pedobear? In what appears to be your avatar character that apologizes in the scene after completion of 0.1, its wearing the pedobear mask. Not sure how some people will react to that but thought I'd point it out.

As for the animations, from what I can see they need a bit of work. When she was riding him while sitting in his lap, it was a little rigid and when she was getting dogged into the washing machine her ass had no ripples and her tits were completely solid. If you can get the physics down on those area's your animations will improve greatly. As for the camera angles, following the typical views would be good which usually falls into 3 view types... side view, top down or looking up depending on position and entry. There is also the facial view but that requires more work especially when trying to match the facial movements to coincide with how close they are to cuming.

Lastly, roadmaps to your predicted work load, I'd advise only doing dates for the next release instead of the next 2 releases as you never know what life will throw at you and how much time you'll have free to work on the project. At least then you'll only have to change the release date for one instead of two future releases if you hit a snag and need more time.

 

[housekinokuni1974]

ok i had my explications, i'd say from what i see, all is here to have a good avn

 

[snapturtle34]

It got potential. And i loved the Dev talk afterwards, cleared alot of things for us who are brand new to this game.

 

[jackleeb]

cool game

 

[srfsmrf_]

What do the most popular games on here use?

Some ship with (lossless) PNGs, other devs started to look into compression, mostly to keep the file size in check (compromise). I believe almost everyone uses WebP for that. For video it's almost always VP9.

Actually, I'm not sure either I mean it looks good now, but I want to see how it looks in 120FPS. Maybe the movement will be way more smooth? You never know. I just want to experiment with it and see which one that work best for the game. And since you seem to know a lot about this, do you know what software that people usually use to compress the animation? I tried using MP4, but it didnt work with Renpy. Back then I use .OGV but nowadays the online converter kind of suck and make the animation way more blurry and pixelated

IMO 60FPS is (smooth) enough, and I agree with the critique regarding the stiff animations posted above. Perhaps time is better spent trying to improve on that?

Forget online converter shit. A lot of ppl seem to use

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. You can always lurk around in the dev forum btw.

Btw,

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is a container format. Originally it supported VP8, later VP9 support was added, nowadays it also supports AV1.

VP8 is easier on the CPU, but VP9 compresses better at possibly better quality, and is kinda the default nowadays. Could well be that AV1 will be the default at some point though.

Since the arrival of VP8 you can regard Theora (what you're referring to when you mention .ogv I reckon) (derived from VP3 btw) in this regard as outdated/superseded.

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has a nice comparison table (the winner for CPU consumption should be VP8 though).

If you have lossless audio to compress, I'd opt for Opus (like pemoj mentioned) (or AAC, but RP doesn't support that).

WebP and WebM are the image and video formats you should be using. They offer the best balance between quality, size, and compression nowadays.

Apart from demanding a bit more from the CPU, I believe AVIF to be superior / the way forward (until, perhaps, RP starts supporting JPEG XL).

(Note tough that for lossless compression, the situation is different. According to a

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, JPEG XL wins (52% of original size), WebP close second (59%), AVIF worst (81%))

 

[ERANFER]

np
Also, do you know about pedobear? In what appears to be your avatar character that apologizes in the scene after completion of 0.1, its wearing the pedobear mask. Not sure how some people will react to that but thought I'd point it out.

As for the animations, from what I can see they need a bit of work. When she was riding him while sitting in his lap, it was a little rigid and when she was getting dogged into the washing machine her ass had no ripples and her tits were completely solid. If you can get the physics down on those area's your animations will improve greatly. As for the camera angles, following the typical views would be good which usually falls into 3 view types... side view, top down or looking up depending on position and entry. There is also the facial view but that requires more work especially when trying to match the facial movements to coincide with how close they are to cuming.

Lastly, roadmaps to your predicted work load, I'd advise only doing dates for the next release instead of the next 2 releases as you never know what life will throw at you and how much time you'll have free to work on the project. At least then you'll only have to change the release date for one instead of two future releases if you hit a snag and need more time.

I know that it's pedobear, but I thought that it was just a meme and it's okay to use. But yeah, I'm gonna change that head costume for next update DevTalk just to be safe.

About animations, yeah I've seen that as well. But basically, when I made those 2 sample animations, I don't really get into details like that. It's my first time ever making a Sex Animation, so I kinda focus more on the big movement rather than the minor detail. Also, I only have 1 day to make those 2 animations so I kind of rushed it a bit xD. But don't worry, later on next update I will pay more attention to minor details like that. There's a boob and ass physics mod as well, but I havent really dig deep into those, hence why the spanking kinda felt flat hehe... But so far the biggest challenges is finger and face expression. Those two are really tedious because you have to adjust each finger and slider manually.

IMO 60FPS is (smooth) enough, and I agree with the critique regarding the stiff animations posted above. Perhaps time is better spent trying to improve on that?

Forget online converter shit. A lot of ppl seem to use

You must be registered to see the links

. You can always lurk around in the dev forum btw.

Btw,

You must be registered to see the links

is a container format. Originally it supported VP8, later VP9 support was added, nowadays it also supports AV1.

VP8 is easier on the CPU, but VP9 compresses better at possibly better quality, and is kinda the default nowadays. Could well be that AV1 will be the default at some point though.

Since the arrival of VP8 you can regard Theora (what you're referring to when you mention .ogv I reckon) (derived from VP3 btw) in this regard as outdated/superseded.

You must be registered to see the links

has a nice comparison table (the winner for CPU consumption should be VP8 though).

If you have lossless audio to compress, I'd opt for Opus (like pemoj mentioned) (or AAC, but RP doesn't support that).


Apart from demanding a bit more from the CPU, I believe AVIF to be superior / the way forward (until, perhaps, RP starts supporting JPEG XL).

Thanks for the input! And yeah, I already compressed most of the audio into .ogg. HS2 could only render animation with WEBM V8 or V9 sadly. I've tried V9, but it took way longer to animate. Like triple the time to render. Hence why I decided to use V8 instead. I'm still kinda clueless when it comes to compression like this, so I need to learn more

 

[Demoness_Kiss]

np
Also, do you know about pedobear?

you worry for the pedobear thingy? i would be more concerned for the nijisanji-like thing considering what they did.

I played the new first version, i won't review it, but it met my expectations...problem is, my expectations weren't positive.

Sorry Eranfer, but i wish for the sake of what this game WAS in the past, that the current version is a masterpiece, but it doesn't match what i like and what i'm looking for.

I can't even give you criticism, because people liked it, so i'm not even sure if i am the problem for not liking them, or those people are the problem for liking them(hard to explain, english is not my native language, yadayada).

Well, i wish you a satisfying success.

 

[JJJ84]

I can't even give you criticism, because people liked it, so i'm not even sure if i am the problem for not liking them, or those people are the problem for liking them(hard to explain, english is not my native language, yadayada).

I mean, this is an online forum, so you shouldn't be afraid to voice criticism of the game if that is how you feel.
As long as preface your criticism post with something like "What I say in this post is by no means to make offense against the dev or anyone else who likes this game."

I've made several posts over the years, and it's not always been praises of a release/update.
At times I've called out any critiques (with the preface I mentioned above of course).

As long as you're respectful going about it (and post is not a personal attack towards the dev and folks who like his work), sure folks may not agree with it but they will still respect your opinion with "different strokes for different folks."
And if there are folks who get upset over your opinion? Well, they shouldn't be in an online forum in the first place if they're expecting an echo chamber.

Basically shirking away from posting critiques just cause how the other side may react?
Well, let's just say I played Eranfer's original version of this game like 6 years ago, and I like this remake version a lot more than that original version (hence most likely I would disagree with a lot of what you said lol).
Having said that, even I don't think it's a good thing for the game and Eranfer is all there's left in the thread is the Yes-men and no constructive critiques.

And folks I think (well, I hope) are more thick-faced than you'd expect, so I'm sure they won't be hurt by whatever you likely say.

 

[testers123456]

you worry for the pedobear thingy? i would be more concerned for the nijisanji-like thing considering what they did.

I can't even give you criticism, because people liked it, so i'm not even sure if i am the problem for not liking them, or those people are the problem for liking them(hard to explain, english is not my native language, yadayada).

Well, i wish you a satisfying success.

I'm not sure what the nijisanji thing is. As for worrying, I wouldn't really say its worry. It's just a precaution against those people who are easily offended.

As for giving your criticism, considering you liked the older version of this avn, you really shouldn't hold back and let Eranfer know what you liked in the that version that you feel is missing from the new one.

 

[Demoness_Kiss]

Premise: my comment/opinion on this is not due to being shy or not wanting to share, but a polite "this game clearly isn't for me, so why should i comment the game?". People who know me or checked my review, know that i'm harsh but fair, my criticism can be brutal but never about things that aren't there or made-up stuff meaning that even when harsh, my words are based on things that are in the game and i stick to talk about those.

1- I mean, this is an online forum, so you shouldn't be afraid to voice criticism of the game if that is how you feel.

I've made several posts over the years, and it's not always been praises of a release/update.

2- As long as you're respectful going about it (and post is not a personal attack towards the dev and folks who like his work), sure folks may not agree with it but they will still respect your opinion with "different strokes for different folks."
And if there are folks who get upset over your opinion? Well, they shouldn't be in an online forum in the first place if they're expecting an echo chamber.

3- Basically shirking away from posting critiques just cause how the other side may react?
Well, let's just say I played Eranfer's original version of this game like 6 years ago, and I like this remake version a lot more than that original version (hence most likely I would disagree with a lot of what you said lol).
Having said that, even I don't think it's a good thing for the game and Eranfer is all there's left in the thread is the Yes-men and no constructive critiques.

And folks I think (well, I hope) are more thick-faced than you'd expect, so I'm sure they won't be hurt by whatever you likely say.

1- Read the premise above: it's not fear, it's more deep than that, as i implied(in the most obvious way possible), my opinion of this first release of the remake, is far from positive, i had negative expectations (i wrote them, expressed them, go look in previous pages) and this first release met those expectations, which is also a negative thing.

2- As i wrote in my premise: i'm harsh but fair, the issue is that my criticism is based on preferences this time, there is no bug, nothing objectively bad in this game (so far)

3- Like i wrote, it's not about how people may react, we're people on the net, no offense, but i don't bond/befriend fast enough to worry about a person's possible reaction(unless their reaction is an attempt to ban me...yes it happened even here). Like i said in point 2, mine wouldn't be constructive criticism, just me spewing my preferences, which i already did in my previous post when i said that i had my expectations and this release confirmed them, problem is my expectations are negative.

I'm not sure what the nijisanji thing is. As for worrying, I wouldn't really say its worry. It's just a precaution against those people who are easily offended.

As for giving your criticism, considering you liked the older version of this avn, you really shouldn't hold back and let Eranfer know what you liked in the that version that you feel is missing from the new one.

The nijisanji thing is a vtuber scandal(trust me, the trigger warning would be: mobbing, workplace abuse, emotional abuse, two attempted suicide, peer pressure, bankrupt), where the CEO(or whatever) apologizes japanese-style, like Eranfer's avatar does in the release.

Spoiler: Now for the both of you(and Eranfer but i bet my left boob he really won't like it) here's my opinion:

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[JJJ84]

Premise: my comment/opinion on this is not due to being shy or not wanting to share, but a polite "this game clearly isn't for me, so why should i comment the game?". People who know me or checked my review, know that i'm harsh but fair, my criticism can be brutal but never about things that aren't there or made-up stuff meaning that even when harsh, my words are based on things that are in the game and i stick to talk about those.



1- Read the premise above: it's not fear, it's more deep than that, as i implied(in the most obvious way possible), my opinion of this first release of the remake, is far from positive, i had negative expectations (i wrote them, expressed them, go look in previous pages) and this first release met those expectations, which is also a negative thing.

2- As i wrote in my premise: i'm harsh but fair, the issue is that my criticism is based on preferences this time, there is no bug, nothing objectively bad in this game (so far)

3- Like i wrote, it's not about how people may react, we're people on the net, no offense, but i don't affectionate enough to worry about a person's possible reaction(unless their reaction is an attempt to ban me...yes it happened even here). Like i said in point 2, mine wouldn't be constructive criticism, just me spewing my preferences, which i already did in my previous post when i said that i had my expectations and this release confirmed them, problem is my expectations are negative.



The nijisanji thing is a vtuber scandal(trust me, the trigger warning would be: mobbing, workplace abuse, emotional abuse, two attempted suicide, peer pressure, bankrupt), where the CEO(or whatever) apologizes japanese-style, like Eranfer's avatar does in the release.

Spoiler: Now for the both of you(and Eranfer but i bet my left boob he really won't like it) here's my opinion:

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I mean regardless of whether people know you or not; you said it yourself "I can't even give you criticism, because people liked it, so i'm not even sure if i am the problem for not liking them, or those people are the problem for liking them."
Folks including myself (and others) reading it, that line just gives the impression you're wary of other people's reactions to your criticism.
So you probably could have worded that better, but I get it.
English is my second language too, and at times it can be hard to convey what you really mean/intend.

As for your criticisms hidden under spoilers tag, well that's fair.
I don't agree with a lot of it and could spend debating them with you to no end, (that is if I have time lol) but I won't, since that was/is not my intent with the initial reply to you.
I will merely say you are entitled to your opinion (and obviously no need for any apology lol) plus noone has the right to report or police you in what you say as long as its not personal offense (which it isn't).

In the end, it is what it is.

 

[Demoness_Kiss]

I mean regardless of whether people know you or not; you said it yourself "I can't even give you criticism, because people liked it,

and i said that exactly because: i'm not sure if the game is bad, or it's just me not liking it but people did like it, so i don't know the answer to my own question. If the release/game was unanimously disliked, i wouldn't have problems with my own opinion(i mean in this websites "the majority decides if something is good or bad" by reviewing the game which allows the game to get a rating <- to be fair, the dev posted his remake in the original-game's thread...so the rating is already unfair at his own advantage, because an average rating of 4+ stars is a positive rating. Kinda like a new game+ mode XD he is getting all the advantages he got from the previous iteration of his Visual Novel, while his new remake has yet to get more than 2-3 reviews)

 

[testers123456]

and i said that exactly because: i'm not sure if the game is bad, or it's just me not liking it but people did like it, so i don't know the answer to my own question. If the release/game was unanimously disliked, i wouldn't have problems with my own opinion

I don't think your response was bad or anything to hate, if anything you've pointed out a few things that could potentially be worked on in the future. An example of that would be adding a flashback scene or two to cover what happened the day the father was shot and also another to show the reason behind why his father dislikes the idea of Della being so close to the MC.

Personally, I feel that this release could have been released as an update in the future where more character build up was done first but it can also work like this then do a flashback as I mentioned previously to show what happened before with the events that led up to the detective being captured. As you mentioned there are questions that need answering in the story and especially how Della found out that the MC's father was the target of an attempted assassination.

 

[goulet1995]

Hmmm… how do I explain this? You see, the way I planned the game is a bit different. Not every main love interest likes each other. For example, LI D might hate LI C, and the story involving those two is actually set up so they’re against each other.

That’s why having both of them in the same harem isn’t possible. You’ll have to choose which harem you want to pursue. So far, I’ve planned three different harem groups.

And don't worry, you could still do SOLO route as well. Again, harem is optional. I planned to make everything optional lol xD

i Yhink you misunderstood my question i want harem as i only pay harem games i just dont like when there is forced lesbian/bi stuf within the harem either way this reply tells me the game probably isnt for me based on needing multiple playthroughs to get all the LI's.

 

[Ken Moreno]

Finished the prologue I have to say I like it MC is dark and brutal not a classical wimpy MC we see in a lot of honey select AVN so that is a good starting point I also very much liked the renders, story and love interests that appeared I am not sure if Marcelinka is a LI but I liked her a lot at least more than the other girl that looks younger more naïve maybe it's because Marcelinka she feels more mature and blunt which is totally my type.

I never played the original so I can't really compare it to anything but I liked what I played a bit on the shorter side for my taste but at least its got lots choices for replaying I also like the flavor pack I think it gives the game a bit of variety in content and different girls with different bodies its a cool concept also liking the whole pick a harem idea the dev got going for him.

So yea I say overall amazing first re-release it's definitively got a lot of potential to be a very good HS2 AVN I am going to keep my eyes peeled for updates for this one for sure.

 

[Ken Moreno]

most games that look interesting to me its more i dont want to spend time on a game that will force stuff on me i dont like

Fair enough mate I was just genuinely curious since I seen you a few times asking the same thing on other game threads

 

[Pendr4g0n]

Now this is what I like to see.. more MAFIA genre.. yes pleaseee... Good luck on the game dev

 

[Black Orchid]

i got around to trying this and i have to say what there is so far is actually very impressive, however like i mentioned in my previous comment the future of this remains very questionable, i won't be holding my breath.

 

[kauthor]

Will only keep an eye on this.. but I love highly rated games without sandbox..