VN Ren'Py Underboss Life [v0.1] [ERANFER]

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goulet1995

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1. Will the game be VN or sandbox?
The game will be a VN with some free roam section. Something like what you've seen in BaDIK. But atm, I'm holding off the free roam from this release because I have some problems with the code lol. xD So I'll need to see what I can do about it later.

2. Will the game have choices to change positions during sex?
Fuck yes. If you played the original version of the game, then you'll know that I will provide you with multiple angle and position of a sex scene :D Even where you want to finish on her will also be up to you. Idk why exactly, but the newer generation game has such an amazing story and graphics yet the sex/lewd scene is kinda disappointing... Most newer gen game that I've played kinda have that one sex position and that's it xD. I want to revive the old-gen approach to sex scene! :KEK:

3. Are any of the girls (main or side) cherry still intact and waiting for ONLY the MC to pop them?
YES~! Of course I will provide those :D It's part of my kink as well, so I definitely have several characters like that :p

4. Will MC be forced to wear condom during sex?
Condom? Hell no. But there might be some sex scene or a certain character that will refuse you to cum inside her. IF this happen, please understand that there's some plot involved that prevent me from allowing you to creampie her:BootyTime: But I might also gonna provide a choice for those who want to use a rubber as well :p

5. Will we be given the choice to creampie the girls? instead of just being forced to cumshot on the girls body?
Of course~ I think answer number 2 pretty much explain on how I want my sex scene for future scene.

6. Is NTR a thing in the game? if so, will there be choices to actually prevent it from happening?
No. There will be NO NTR in this game. However, there might be some scene where I'm gonna make you jealous, so keep that in mind. I believe that this might annoy some people, but It's necessary to enhance the romance and some of the plots inside the game.

7. Is that woman with oversized boobies still a thing?
Yes. She's a part of the Flavour Pack/Additional content. There will be 3 HUGE Boobs characters and 2 Small/petite characters in the Flavour pack. They won't have any scene in this first release, but you'll start to see them on 0.2. If you don't want it, simply just don't play with the Additional Content when I ask you at the beginning of the game.
how will the harem tag in this work and for a harem route can girl on girl/lesbian/bi stuff be avoided im personally not a fan of sharing the LI's even if just with the other LI so hope you can clarify this
 

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Started playing and straightaway I was asked if I wanted to enable a "dlc" of sorts that include some comissioned characters that look absolutely atrocious and ridiculous. Even if I disabled it, I need to ask: is this one of those games in which the characters have exaggerated proportions?

Just seeing that ridiculousness and knowing that there will be dev time spent on developing that made me put off the game for now. Maybe I'll pick it back up again in two or three updates and give it a shake but oof.
 

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Will try after a few updates, but the screenshots look really impressive! Very similar in vibes to Sicae visually.
 

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I wonder what the dev meant by the harem?
how will the harem tag in this work and for a harem route can girl on girl/lesbian/bi stuff be avoided im personally not a fan of sharing the LI's even if just with the other LI so hope you can clarify this
Hmmm… how do I explain this?:unsure: You see, the way I planned the game is a bit different. Not every main love interest likes each other. For example, LI D might hate LI C, and the story involving those two is actually set up so they’re against each other.

That’s why having both of them in the same harem isn’t possible. You’ll have to choose which harem you want to pursue. So far, I’ve planned three different harem groups.

And don't worry, you could still do SOLO route as well. Again, harem is optional. I planned to make everything optional lol xD

Why build a phone interface from scratch? On Itch.io, there are several functional and finished phone systems, some of which are quite complete. For example:

On Itch.io (and other places too) there are some other telephone interfaces, some simpler, some more complex. In addition to individual chats and many other things, such as image and video galleries, music rooms...
Believe me, I’ve tried those. I’ve looked up some examples for in-game phones (both on Itch and Lemmasoft) and tried to understand how they work. But just like what JJJ84 said, I'm here for the long run.

Yeah, using ready-made code is fast and easy, but it also limits what you can do with it. And again — “long run.” Being a developer means you have to understand and master the three core skills: writing, image creation, and coding. Because if you don’t, you’ll always be limited as a developer in creating the kind of story or features you want in your game.

For images you may want to consider AVIF. JXL would arguably be better, but alas, (still) no official Ren'Py support.

You don't think 60fps is more than enough? Higher seems overkill to me, and one thing that you might want to consider is that Ren'Py's video playback performance is far from stellar, and doesn't support HW decoding.

Older / lower spec systems may struggle with 60fps already (esp. AV1). Between that and VP8/9, VP8 is least demanding on the CPU. Your v0.1 60fps VP8 vids seem to do (relatively) okay on my potato, still it's consuming significantly more CPU than when played in a dedicated media player.
Actually, I'm not sure either :KEK: I mean it looks good now, but I want to see how it looks in 120FPS. Maybe the movement will be way more smooth? You never know. :p I just want to experiment with it and see which one that work best for the game. And since you seem to know a lot about this, do you know what software that people usually use to compress the animation? I tried using MP4, but it didnt work with Renpy. Back then I use .OGV but nowadays the online converter kind of suck and make the animation way more blurry and pixelated:FacePalm:
 
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Eh.... I can't say I personally liked it all that much. Maybe it's because I really really hate the teenage angst, the "omg I hate daddy." He gave everything I want but I feel empty. I can only guess, you'll go into more to make it feel justified, but the little that's there just makes the MC seems childish and stupid.

It's been ages since I've played the original, but I felt the lighter feel of it was better.

Also, if you want to go towards the darker tone as it seems you are planning to do. Probably best not to have that "Because I love you, baka" line in there, it's feels very dissonant to the theme and current situation. Basically a guy going bat crazy screaming about how he was raped in prison or something, then a turns around and puts a hand over his mouths and go, "oops, teehee."

For the character design that I mentioned before, it looked better than I previously thought, though I still think he looks like he went through a couple of plastic surgery. Not as bad as I was thinking before.
I could guarantee that it won't go the way that you're thinking about this whole "I hate daddy". And it's good that you felt empty, it means the writing is working. I made the MC like that, and I want you to felt empty. Especially in this first episode.

As for the "baka" thingy, I'm so sorry but I forgot to change it lmao :KEK: My proofreader reminds me that I have to be consistent because in one route I made Della said "Baka" and in some other I mader her said "Stupid/Idiot". We decided to go with "Idiot/Stupid" but I must've missed some :FacePalm::KEK: Sorry, will fix it right away! Thanks for pointing that out!

There's a prostitution tag. What exactly does it entail?

Are any of the LIs prostitutes? Or former prostitutes?
Don't worry, it's not the kind of prostitution that you think ;) If you played the original, then you'll know. :p But yeah, none of the LI are prostitutes or ex prostitutes.

Started playing and straightaway I was asked if I wanted to enable a "dlc" of sorts that include some comissioned characters that look absolutely atrocious and ridiculous. Even if I disabled it, I need to ask: is this one of those games in which the characters have exaggerated proportions?

Just seeing that ridiculousness and knowing that there will be dev time spent on developing that made me put off the game for now. Maybe I'll pick it back up again in two or three updates and give it a shake but oof.
Well, it is what it is. Besides, I really don't think of it as a big problem or something. It's more like an additional route for the game. And if you disable it, you won't see any contents related to the DLC at all. Plus, this make the game more varied for a second or third playthrough. So I don't see it as a problem at all. But again, that's just me as a developer and I completely understand your concerns. But don't worry much about it ;)

And NO. IF you play it with Flavour pack disabled (VANILLA), you won't see HUUGE BOOBIES at all. Those exaggerated body proportions is only available if you turned on the Flavour pack. Most of the Vanilla characters have boobs size around Della and Marcelinka.
 
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Hmmm… how do I explain this?:unsure: You see, the way I planned the game is a bit different. Not every main love interest likes each other. For example, LI D might hate LI C, and the story involving those two is actually set up so they’re against each other.

That’s why having both of them in the same harem isn’t possible. You’ll have to choose which harem you want to pursue. So far, I’ve planned three different harem groups.

And don't worry, you could still do SOLO route as well. Again, harem is optional. I planned to make everything optional lol xD



Believe me, I’ve tried those. I’ve looked up some examples for in-game phones (both on Itch and Lemmasoft) and tried to understand how they work. But just like what JJJ84 said, I'm here for the long run.

Yeah, using ready-made code is fast and easy, but it also limits what you can do with it. And again — “long run.” Being a developer means you have to understand and master the three core skills: writing, image creation, and coding. Because if you don’t, you’ll always be limited as a developer in creating the kind of story or features you want in your game.


Actually, I'm not sure either :KEK: I mean it looks good now, but I want to see how it looks in 120FPS. Maybe the movement will be way more smooth? You never know. :p I just want to experiment with it and see which one that work best for the game. And since you seem to know a lot about this, do you know what software that people usually use to compress the animation? I tried using MP4, but it didnt work with Renpy. Back then I use .OGV but nowadays the online converter kind of suck and make the animation way more blurry and pixelated:FacePalm:
Picking and choosing a harem. Eh really hope the girls I like are not on the opposite sides or something. Still would have preferred a harem where you can add to your liking and only you have to worked harder if the lis hate each other or something.
 
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I see that, six years later, you still don’t get it. Being a developer means many things. It’s not all limited to those three basic skills you mentioned. A good developer MUST TELL A STORY. And that’s not just about knowing how to tell a story, but, more importantly, about TELLING THE STORY YOU WANT TO TELL. That should be the main goal of every good developer.
That’s why it’s important to focus on what really matters — achieving a good balance between image quality, writing, coding… and the time between updates. What’s the point of telling a good story if you don’t tell it for whatever reason? Work, family, lack of motivation… In one word: life. In a few more: your own life. That’s the main reason why the vast majority of developers rarely make it past the second update.
And in your case, it seems extreme: according to what’s shown in this thread, from 2019 until now… 3 updates. One update every 2 years? Seriously? And you still want to waste time on the least important of the 3 basic skills you mentioned? You don’t need to understand how the phone system works at the code level. All you need is to know how to use it — and use it well. The rest just adds to development time, which means you won’t be able to tell your story because you’re busy learning something you don’t actually need to know.
It’s like wanting to know everything in the field of physics just because you’re a physics teacher: you only need to know what you need to know. But your comment about “I want to see how it looks in 120FPS” tells everything... one more time. Why 120 when 30 is enough? Why should the video be four times bigger in size? That’s yet another sign that, six years later, you still don’t understand what it means to be a developer or how to develop — not just your story, but your game.
It’s fine to pay some attention to detail. But in your case, that seems to be the most important thing for you, which will stretch out development time, slow down update releases, and as a result, new potential players won’t even know your game exists — and those who do will forget about it and move on to other games between updates.

Anyway, it’s your story, your game, and above all, your life. Seeing how you do things and that you’re still learning, I guess we’ll see you again with the next update… in about two years.

P.S. WebP and WebM are the image and video formats you should be using. They offer the best balance between quality, size, and compression nowadays. It’s incredible that, six years later, you still don’t know what to use and keep trying to reinvent the wheel over and over again
Gahh... you're one of those guys.:FacePalm: See? What you just wrote only prove the point that I've just said before dude :KEK: With all due respect to you, this would be my last time discussing this matter with you.

Basically, your main problem is the fact that I choose to make the phone from a scratch rather than using what available, right? Let's break it down shall we?

"Why not use a ready to use Phone Code? It's easier and faster that way. You just need to understand how to use it."
First of all, it's kind of ugly. Plus there's so many other features that I don't need. Adding those into the game would be more like a minus instead of a plus.

"Then just modify the phone to your liking and delete the feature that you don't want! Don't overcomplicate stuff dude!"
Oh shoooot... you're right! I just need to modify it, right?! But how to do that? OH RIGHT, I just need to learn how to modify the phone by LEARNING HOW TO CODE in Renpy more! Haha... how silly I am.:KEK:

Also, if you read my previous post about why it take that long, you'll understand why. It's my fault, and I'm not gonna deny that. But life happens, and it is what it is. :)

Last but not least, .WEBP and .OGV is the best combo for Renpy. I was asking because I don't now a good converter that I could use to convert my .webm animations into OGV. WEBM is great, but the size is bloated like PNG. Overtime this would cause a problem with the game size. Thank you! ;)



Picking and choosing a harem. Eh really hope the girls I like are not on the opposite sides or something. Still would have preferred a harem where you can add to your liking and only you have to worked harder if the lis hate each other or something.
I know... But at the end of the day, you'll always have to choose, no? That's life. ;)
 
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What is the old hs1?
i saw post from 2019 and one chapter done 6 years later ?
OLD HS1 is the old version with HS1 engine. The original version before the rework.

As for why... I suggest you to read this post.
 

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That's life.
Yes, that's life, but this is a video game. We have to choose in this video game because you are the developer and you wrote it that way. You could have just as well not done that.:rolleyes: Just being real.

I hope this goes somewhere this time. Honestly gave up on this game but its good to see it's back in some form.(y)

-cheers.
 

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Yes, that's life, but this is a video game. We have to choose in this video game because you are the developer and you wrote it that way. You could have just as well not done that.:rolleyes: Just being real.

I hope this goes somewhere this time. Honestly gave up on this game but its good to see it's back in some form.(y)

-cheers.
Truee! But it won't be fun that way :p Also try the game and tell me what you think about it :p
 

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Just loaded the AVN and the first thing I hear is netflix... Not sure if you know this but there is a possibility that the rip of the netflix logo used for advertising your name at the start is most likely copyrighted so you may want to consider changing that.
 
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No, it is now. Webm (VP9 + Opus) is the best combo. Also, Ren’Py officially recommends webm. I won’t be the one to tell you what kind of game you want to create, or how. I was simply trying to make you see some of the problems you’ve had and that, from what I can tell, you’re going to have again and won’t do anything to fix. I’ve seen this too many times, and in that sense, you’re just one more of a very long list. We’ll see each other again in a year or two.
I get it man, you got trust issues with AVN developer. But lashing out like that without giving dev the chance is kinda unfair, no?

And believe me, I know what I did wrong in the past and I'm trying my best not to repeat that same mistakes again. But yeah, let's keep this thread healthy. :4Head:
 
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Just loaded the AVN and the first thing I hear is netflix... Not sure if you know this but there is a possibility that the rip of the netflix logo used for advertising your name at the start is most likely copyrighted so you may want to consider changing that.
I will, don't worry. I'm thinking to use an image instead. But we'll see... Thanks for reminding me btw! ;)
 
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