VN Ren'Py Undercover [v10.1] [Slow Burn Games]

[TomUK]

Yeppers same on the update, and I agree blackmailed MC is working.

(The MC Backed into a corner and forced to obedience is something I like in an adult story)

During the process having her corruption increased, as in she Begin's to very much enjoy the event's is also good, but still having trouble with her mental or moral justification of the problem.

I think the solving of case's with sex or in a prudish manor is good too. I don't think that all have to be murder case's.

Could sometimes be government corruption, theft, stolen car chop shop, protection racket, drug ring related crimes.

Lot's of options where crime is involved.

I think there needs to be a way to avoid the blackmail, the blackmail is fixed, you can't get out of it, the old guy has already pushed her head down to his cock before you get the option to leave, then you don't even get the option to walk out instead of showing him her tits, then his mate snogging her, she doesn't get an option there, then you got his mate again when he tries to fucks her, that's the first time you get the opportunity to walk out, then the big guy, you're only really allowed a choice after the blackmail becomes known that it's all about revenge on her father, but we still got to see what comes next, whether she allows the blackmail to continue or not.

I don't have a problem with the blackmail being in the game, I don't necessarily agree that the blackmail adds to her corruption, plenty of other choices doing that and those choices are her own, whereas the blackmail choices are being forced on her, that's more likely to work against her corruption.

 

[taglag]

I think there needs to be a way to avoid the blackmail

I don't have a problem with the blackmail being in the game, I don't necessarily agree that the blackmail adds to her corruption, plenty of other choices doing that and those choices are her own, whereas the blackmail choices are being forced on her, that's more likely to work against her corruption.

Yes I agree with that.

However, and option to avoid though as I see the story right now would probably lock you out of a lot of material.

Looks like once chosen you would probably be locked out of all that content.

I was sort of assuming that eventually at some point in the game you might be given and escape choice, but the game is still very early in development. (Considering how long some of these games have been added to, and added to over many years in some cases)

So maybe what you want will arrive with and update?

 

[Penumbral Evanescence]

whereas the blackmail choices are being forced on her, that's more likely to work against her corruption

Yeah, I mean it also helps that if the FMC's love counter goes to zero and you cannot get it past zero and into the positives, then a game over occurs.

But I guess having more agency per choice to opt out of the blackmail can add some additional balance to the scenes without feeling too forced as the player to follow through with the blackmail.

 

[wildride69]

I find it hard to understand why some people play CORRUPTION based VN's. They absolutely hate seeing the MC...well corrupted or only corrupted in a way they want I guess... it just makes no sense. If I didn't want the MC blackmailed I could have selected "TIME TO GO". Where is the problem? I don't want the MC blackmailed so it's time to go... and princess MC remains pure blackmail AVOIDED.

Jump onto Subscribestar and tell the dev exactly what you want to see...

 

[TomUK]

I find it hard to understand why some people play CORRUPTION based VN's. They absolutely hate seeing the MC...well corrupted or only corrupted in a way they want I guess... it just makes no sense. If I didn't want the MC blackmailed I could have selected "TIME TO GO". Where is the problem? I don't want the MC blackmailed so it's time to go... and princess MC remains pure blackmail AVOIDED.
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Jump onto Subscribestar and tell the dev exactly what you want to see...

That scene doesn't stop the blackmail, the next time you don't get a choice and she is forced to kiss the old guy's friend, the next time you don't get to resist until the old guy's friend almost has his cock in her pussy and finally, the big guy you can say no, only after that encounter it is made known the real target is her father and not her husband, but we'll have to wait for the next update for that I guess.
Anyway, I don't mind either way, I just thought it should be a choice for the player to make otherwise the story just becomes linear.

 

[slowburngames]

I think there needs to be a way to avoid the blackmail,

I can understand wanting to avoid bits that you don't like/enjoy/fit etc. However, I'm trying to make a linear story and for that there has to be a narrative, some fixed events, that give the timeline a general plot. If everything was optional it would be hard to craft a plot or a direction. In this story, the blackmail component offers a crime event, some definite corruption points, an unfolding series of events that i hope is entertaining, and of course some erotic situations.
I know the best game would be one that offers infinite possibilties and options and choices, but believe me when i say that is totally impractical if you want to see fast updates. If you have options, you need alternative paths and that would slow down development. Compromises on game design have to be made to keep the spice flowing. The issue of game design, efficient systems, linear, open, hub, levels, etc is really interesting and complicated- have lots of ideas and discussions with subscribers on this topic. Always interested to hear more as I'm no expert and may be missing a trick.

 

[slowburngames]

Sample from chapter 9 in development now.

 

[taglag]

I can understand wanting to avoid bits that you don't like/enjoy/fit etc. However, I'm trying to make a linear story and for that there has to be a narrative, some fixed events, that give the timeline a general plot. If everything was optional it would be hard to craft a plot or a direction. In this story, the blackmail component offers a crime event, some definite corruption points, an unfolding series of events that i hope is entertaining, and of course some erotic situations.

We are just idiot's spouting off about our personal like's and dislikes..

I hope I speak for everyone when I say "Please forgive us!". We all just have goofy opinion's and personal wants or feelings of entitlement. LOL!

I love what you have done, and look forward to more of the same. This is great stuff, I tried the first installment's and they felt a little light in the corruption part to me <<< Note the to me

However this last installment blew me away, wow! you are really cooking in my opinion, and I am truly eager for more of the same.

Thank you so much for all your hard work!

 

[Scotsman1989]

I have a question........

Will we still get the chance to let Rizzler have his fun in manipulating and corrupting Jen, after we make the right choice at the end of chapter to catch the killer?

 

[TomUK]

I can understand wanting to avoid bits that you don't like/enjoy/fit etc. However, I'm trying to make a linear story and for that there has to be a narrative, some fixed events, that give the timeline a general plot. If everything was optional it would be hard to craft a plot or a direction. In this story, the blackmail component offers a crime event, some definite corruption points, an unfolding series of events that i hope is entertaining, and of course some erotic situations.
I know the best game would be one that offers infinite possibilties and options and choices, but believe me when i say that is totally impractical if you want to see fast updates. If you have options, you need alternative paths and that would slow down development. Compromises on game design have to be made to keep the spice flowing. The issue of game design, efficient systems, linear, open, hub, levels, etc is really interesting and complicated- have lots of ideas and discussions with subscribers on this topic. Always interested to hear more as I'm no expert and may be missing a trick.

I was just making a couple of points, I actually haven't tried playing a totally faithful wife yet, just been trying a few options on the other path.

Sample from chapter 9 in development now.
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Is that in this game or a mistake posting that here instead on the misfits thread?

 

[Walter Victor]

I can understand wanting to avoid bits that you don't like/enjoy/fit etc. However, I'm trying to make a linear story and for that there has to be a narrative, some fixed events, that give the timeline a general plot. If everything was optional it would be hard to craft a plot or a direction. In this story, the blackmail component offers a crime event, some definite corruption points, an unfolding series of events that i hope is entertaining, and of course some erotic situations.
I know the best game would be one that offers infinite possibilties and options and choices, but believe me when i say that is totally impractical if you want to see fast updates. If you have options, you need alternative paths and that would slow down development. Compromises on game design have to be made to keep the spice flowing. The issue of game design, efficient systems, linear, open, hub, levels, etc is really interesting and complicated- have lots of ideas and discussions with subscribers on this topic. Always interested to hear more as I'm no expert and may be missing a trick.

If everything were optional, you would never complete a single release. Having too many options is the bane of every game developer. Speak to other developers, forget about subscribers. If you cater too much to subscribers' wishes, you are eventually going to end up with a game YOU don't like, which leads either to your frustration and/or the game's abandonment.

Almost all players want options to avoid something(s) THEY don't like. It is impossible to please everybody in that regard. The solution for the player is simple. There are a lot of good games out there, that can satisfy most everyone; more than the serious player can get to in a lifetime. So if the developer refuses to change the game to suit you, and it's a killer for you, play some other game.

Infinite possibilities is an illusion that is impossible to get in any game - not even that of life.

 

[Geigi]

I personally love the transformation stories from good girl to slut and more, when it is the girl who chooses to become a real whore. My two cents.

Eh, sexually empowered fmcs without influence/corruption/blackmail etc. in sex-positive games are rare.

 

[Walter Victor]

slowburngames, I don't know if you are aware of this or not, but there is a bug in CH 8.rpy.

In the menu choice at line 662, you have $ch8_tiny==True, and then $ch8_tiny==False. Those should be $ch8_tiny=True and $ch8_tiny=False, respectively. The existing code fails to set the variable correctly, and the variable defaults to False.

 

[Walter Victor]

I have a question........

Will we still get the chance to let Rizzler have his fun in manipulating and corrupting Jen, after we make the right choice at the end of chapter to catch the killer?

Just do a save at the beginning of Jen's choice, then play each route. You get to see the sex scenes and can catch the killer. Then you can make catching the killer your canon choice, even if you have to replay it to do so. [All three are relatively short.] If Jen is involved in catching the killer, it should give her a ton of Credits in the next release.

 

[atrebor68]

Eh, sexually empowered fmcs without influence/corruption/blackmail etc. in sex-positive games are rare.

You are right, influence and smart corruption are better choiches.

 

[Kylie Bloodmoon]

If she had hair, id be all for it. Female cop stories tend to be very limited. But the shaved head throws me off.

 

[PickerLewd]

If everything were optional, you would never complete a single release. Having too many options is the bane of every game developer. Speak to other developers, forget about subscribers. If you cater too much to subscribers' wishes, you are eventually going to end up with a game YOU don't like, which leads either to your frustration and/or the game's abandonment.

Almost all players want options to avoid something(s) THEY don't like. It is impossible to please everybody in that regard. The solution for the player is simple. There are a lot of good games out there, that can satisfy most everyone; more than the serious player can get to in a lifetime. So if the developer refuses to change the game to suit you, and it's a killer for you, play some other game.

Infinite possibilities is an illusion that is impossible to get in any game - not even that of life.

Oh WV, keep lighting our way with your wisdom, how right you are in your comment!

If she had hair, id be all for it. Female cop stories tend to be very limited. But the shaved head throws me off.

Just keep playing, time will pass and her hair will grow .

 

[menatv]

Really liked the update once again. I like it when the mind wants to stay loyal, but the body is having other ideas and eventually she succumbs to them.

And I actually thought the killer was one of the girls. So I definitely missed on that one. Looking forward to the next update.

 

[TomUK]

If she had hair, id be all for it. Female cop stories tend to be very limited. But the shaved head throws me off.

She does have hair, just cut shorter during her rookie days which are only a 'few days'.

 

[boulimanus]

She does have hair, just cut shorter during her rookie days which are only a 'few days'.

I do miss that hairstyle. I think she looked great in it.