VN Ren'Py Undercover [v11.2] [Slow Burn Games]

[Candy1970]

I'm reluctant to comment on this topic as I'm enjoying the discussion and understand and respect the different points of view. However, I thought you might enjoy knowing the writer's intention.

Firstly, in many of the events the MC makes illogical choices BECAUSE she has peculiar kinks. I tried to show (particularly in the blackmail arc) how she would allow herself to be placed in compromising positions because it gave her an excuse to explore her sexual desires. She could never openly cheat on Mike, but if she had no choice because she was being blackmailed or had to complete a mission or follow orders then she could justify it to herself.

Secondly, this is Fiction and there is no attempt to make the plots believable or likely. Most fiction relies on readers suspending disbelief in order to enjoy a yarn.

Thirdly, I am not trying to make a game where all outcomes are possible; where everything has a choice. Quite the opposite- I'm trying to make a story where some things MUST happen to keep the integrity of the narrative and to keep erotic events happening. This story is about a girl with peculiar kinks and ambitions so giving her the choice, for instance, not to have the kinks is a different story. Whilst I agree that a much better game would allow every event to be optional, it would take longer to do. It isn't a case of just having an opt-out of events (not least because if you opt out of every event then nothing happens). Taking part in an event has an impact on future events, things people say, how people behave or react in the future. You literally have to make two (or more) games.

I can see both sides of the "credibility" argument, but I'm just trying to make an enjoyable romp with fast updates.

I too have tried to write games and do the CYOA style and leave the player with three options each time A what they should have done B what they could have done and C what they chose and how that effects the outcome .......its not an easy task so i applaud your efforts ....... the butterfly effect that creates can sometimes derail the story you are trying to write and in the end you are left with a mess of code. then some one says well couldn't she have done this and so you try to add that and then think about how that effects everything you have written ....and if you keep going it get worse and worse because that leads to more options ........ and before long the game starts taking on paths that you never intended ..... lots of them leading to more bad ends

So i am glad you are sticking to your guns on this point ..... your art and writing is superb in my opinion ...and I am always of the mind set when i see complaints about a story ....if they dont like it they can try to write their own game ....and THEN THEY MIGHT GET IT ........its not as easy as it looks to be sure .

keep up the good work and dont let the naysayer's get to you

 

[Walter Victor]

They are mainly window dressing BUT play a part in the final episode. If she has enough awards she will be transferred to detectives i.e. achieve her ambition.

Please check the coding for applying awards. I believe there is a bug that will prevent Jen from achieving that transfer.

 

[Walter Victor]

But shouldn't a game be universal so that everyone can find something for themselves?

Well if anyone is able to do that, it will be an all-time first in game making, AVNs or otherwise.

A universal game would take an infinite amount of time and resources to code all the infinite number of options available.

Even if it were possible, someone (not to name any names) who found something in the game they liked, would find something in the game they didn't like and complain about it endlessly.

 

[Sadowdark]

Well if anyone is able to do that, it will be an all-time first in game making, AVNs or otherwise.

A universal game would take an infinite amount of time and resources to code all the infinite number of options available.

Even if it were possible, someone (not to name any names) who found something in the game they liked, would find something in the game they didn't like and complain about it endlessly.

I have a vivid imagination so the story wouldn't be a problem. But I can't edit in Daz 3D

 

[Walter Victor]

I have a vivid imagination so the story wouldn't be a problem. But I can't edit in Daz 3D

Well, there are a lot of people out there who can edit in Daz 3D. So, just pitch your vividly imaginative idea to them and SHAZAM!!! you've got yourself the best of all possible games to give to us right here on F95.

I'm looking forward to playing it... although I'll probably find fault and whine about it. I'm sure you won't mind.

 

[Sadowdark]

Well, there are a lot of people out there who can edit in Daz 3D. So, just pitch your vividly imaginative idea to them and SHAZAM!!! you've got yourself the best of all possible games to give to us right here on F95.

I'm looking forward to playing it... although I'll probably find fault and whine about it. I'm sure you won't mind.

Everyone has the right to complain

 

[wildride69]

The way she is blackmailed goes beyond logic. Jen is shown once as badass,, then as meek bitch. She should be able to kick old farts ass and take his hard drives. And knowing that he recorded her in this room, she should also know that he can be recording her all the time. No blackmailed person gives her tormentor more material.

You obviously have very little understanding about how blackmail works, in porn logic and real life. The world is not some sugar coated fantasy where everything plays out like in the movies. I would explain but I have seen some of your posts in other threads and I know I would be wasting my time explaining further to you.

You really aren't mature enough to handle this type of content, I would suggest you start off with some lightweight harem games where everything is sunshine and rainbows.

 

[notreallyhere]

She should be able to kick old farts ass and take his hard drives.

Assuming she can find them all? Or that there won't be a copy stored at another location she doesn't know about? Not to mention beating up an old man is going to both have consequences for her career and add credibility to the blackmail material if it ever gets released.

tl;dr just be a badass and beat the shit out of an old man isn't as logical as you think.

 

[slowburngames]

Teaser:
Chapter 12 is in production at the moment. This is the final chapter of the story and we find out if Jen has managed to earn her transfer to the detectives.
I took a week off for Christmas so the final public release MAY be a little later than usual.

 

[The Black Cat]

You obviously have very little understanding about how blackmail works, in porn logic and real life. The world is not some sugar coated fantasy where everything plays out like in the movies. I would explain but I have seen some of your posts in other threads and I know I would be wasting my time explaining further to you.

You really aren't mature enough to handle this type of content, I would suggest you start off with some lightweight harem games where everything is sunshine and rainbows.

... I was going to advice him RAPTUS, or RED ROOM, my type of games... but ok, yeah... Milkshakes, unicorns and shit will go good with him i guess...

 

[shaenerys]

Teaser:
Chapter 12 is in production at the moment. This is the final chapter of the story and we find out if Jen has managed to earn her transfer to the detectives.
I took a week off for Christmas so the final public release MAY be a little later than usual.

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Scoppino has such a hot body

 

[wildride69]

Teaser:
Chapter 12 is in production at the moment. This is the final chapter of the story and we find out if Jen has managed to earn her transfer to the detectives.
I took a week off for Christmas so the final public release MAY be a little later than usual.

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Final chapter?

 

[youraccount69]

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[DartBatiatus]

You obviously have very little understanding about how blackmail works, in porn logic and real life. The world is not some sugar coated fantasy where everything plays out like in the movies. I would explain but I have seen some of your posts in other threads and I know I would be wasting my time explaining further to you.

You really aren't mature enough to handle this type of content, I would suggest you start off with some lightweight harem games where everything is sunshine and rainbows.

I get that its porn game logic, but its so far off real life logic its just dumb. This kind of tropes are best for dudes who never had a girlfriend and get a thrill of female being made to submit becose of their sexual frustration.
As forthis game its so full of plot holes and just dumb decitions on part of mc it hurts. Shame since it does have a promise. It just need smarter writing. I expected better from someone who made 12 days of chrismass, but it looks like the dev cant get out of treating his mc just as cumsleave and not as a woman.

 

[Sadowdark]

Final chapter?

His games always end in 12 CH

 

[jackdanniels]

His games always end in 12 CH

12 days was 12ch but Misfit was 3 parts+epilogue
but you're probably right for Undercover...

 

[Craxyfoxxer]

Is there going to be a second season or is that it after chapter 12?

 

[slowburngames]

Well, this was always planned as a 12 episode story, and it hasn't had enough support to warrant changing that. The story finishes in a good place that allows continuation, perhaps with a different bent to give it wider appeal, maybe in the future...

I have a new project in the pipeline for 2025.

 

[jackdanniels]

Well, this was always planned as a 12 episode story, and it hasn't had enough support to warrant changing that. The story finishes in a good place that allows continuation, perhaps with a different bent to give it wider appeal, maybe in the future...

I have a new project in the pipeline for 2025.

You're one hell of a developer because you have a punctual update schedule and deliver the completed AVN no matter what. Most developers put their projects on a secret "onhold" because they don't have enough support and keep stalling the project with tiny updates, eventually abandoning it - or worse scenario: they have enough supporters, but keep milking their patrons.

Thanks for the good work.

 

[Spicybobman]

Its a big glitchy in episode 9, she kept changing models, in shower scene she had short brown hair, and then from red hair to the blond hair