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p23rklo

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Anyone knows what the soft cap/ max level for skill when it comes to treasure chests/locks? I find that skill pretty "core"/necessary in most builds due to most doors/chests being locked behind locks. It's also pretty GOOD for the trap sections of the map wherein if you equip the trap evasion skill + your innate skill = auto dodge most traps 90+% of the time.

Also stamina "caps" at 30 right when it comes to the "fatigue reduction" in battle (higher stamina only gives +hp, and a few intimidation points).

Trying to prepare to "min max" my NG+ stats lol.
 

Rhapsodee

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After 4 playthroughs, I feel physical builds really needs to get an overhaul. The build has good sustain but rather low damage compared to 2 other builds. It would be one thing if it has good survivability but no, it has about the same durability as a mage build and lower than priest builds. Priest build in particular has water shield and it directly reduces damage by an amount so much that bosses seem like tougher mobs. All while it has thunder spells. That thing is so disgustingly busted as there are so few enemies that are resistant of them that it barely matters and even if they do, the damage is still about the same as weaker prayer spells when they don't hit weakness. Then it also has a spell for lavawalking, sth terribly needed for 5th floor. poison swamp is just annoying but you can somewhat mitigate it, while lava is not fine.
Also, when making perfect 5th element, I see the mention of making some kind of key to banish the old god, how do we get the key or it's sth that doesn't exist?
interesting, i'd have assumed STR builds will hit harder since it's the only build that has a SS scaling weapon. i do agree that prayer build is a little too versatile(you can even just face tank poison swamp and use healing prayer), but i guess the balance is not being able to engage in the h-mechanics of a h-game.
 

1overX

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Anyone knows what the soft cap/ max level for skill when it comes to treasure chests/locks? I find that skill pretty "core"/necessary in most builds due to most doors/chests being locked behind locks. It's also pretty GOOD for the trap sections of the map wherein if you equip the trap evasion skill + your innate skill = auto dodge most traps 90+% of the time.

Also stamina "caps" at 30 right when it comes to the "fatigue reduction" in battle (higher stamina only gives +hp, and a few intimidation points).

Trying to prepare to "min max" my NG+ stats lol.
Not tested, but with 25 skill the lowest unlock chance I recall is 53%(pharmacy's second door at night and a few end game doors), so as long as you have enough lock picks you could probably get away with 20 or so.
 

feyette

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interesting, i'd have assumed STR builds will hit harder since it's the only build that has a SS scaling weapon. i do agree that prayer build is a little too versatile(you can even just face tank poison swamp and use healing prayer), but i guess the balance is not being able to engage in the h-mechanics of a h-game.
the way ppl played physical build was equipping 4 stun/curse passives, it was so strong stunlocking/silencing everything the author had to patch in resistance for mobs n bosses in 1.08
 

winterwisp

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Anyone knows what the soft cap/ max level for skill when it comes to treasure chests/locks? I find that skill pretty "core"/necessary in most builds due to most doors/chests being locked behind locks. It's also pretty GOOD for the trap sections of the map wherein if you equip the trap evasion skill + your innate skill = auto dodge most traps 90+% of the time.

Also stamina "caps" at 30 right when it comes to the "fatigue reduction" in battle (higher stamina only gives +hp, and a few intimidation points).

Trying to prepare to "min max" my NG+ stats lol.
Stamina at 30 and main stat at 99, then choose either you want to play as a virgin priest or lewd archmage. Do note that archmage means after learning all spells from witch carmilla, beat her. Higher stamina than 30 actually also gives more starting SP in a battle, but that's just redundant. Skill should be left at 10-15 cause anymore than that would be unnecessary as most doors requiring too high of a lockpicking level can just be kicked down, and carrying more lockpicks is also an option. Spell builds require less points in speech cause int also increase negotiation. The highest amount of negotiation you'll need is 57 and that is with Max and can be reduced by partying with him often enough. So about 50-53 would be fine for most situations.
Priest build, in particular, needs 15 str to equip her most powerful weapon, but mage build don't require any. However, playing mage build means you will sell flower often, so invest most of the points left into beauty and speech until charm and negotiation reach at least 45 and 51 respectively.
Last thing, do NOT rob apothecary Nel's place. He'll know it's you. He won't report you but you won't get tarot buffs from him anymore.
 

winterwisp

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interesting, i'd have assumed STR builds will hit harder since it's the only build that has a SS scaling weapon. i do agree that prayer build is a little too versatile(you can even just face tank poison swamp and use healing prayer), but i guess the balance is not being able to engage in the h-mechanics of a h-game.
You can still have the slimes rail her ass though. Just don't get her lewdness pass 50.
 

p23rklo

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Stamina at 30 and main stat at 99, then choose either you want to play as a virgin priest or lewd archmage. Do note that archmage means after learning all spells from witch carmilla, beat her. Higher stamina than 30 actually also gives more starting SP in a battle, but that's just redundant. Skill should be left at 10-15 cause anymore than that would be unnecessary as most doors requiring too high of a lockpicking level can just be kicked down, and carrying more lockpicks is also an option. Spell builds require less points in speech cause int also increase negotiation. The highest amount of negotiation you'll need is 57 and that is with Max and can be reduced by partying with him often enough. So about 50-53 would be fine for most situations.
Priest build, in particular, needs 15 str to equip her most powerful weapon, but mage build don't require any. However, playing mage build means you will sell flower often, so invest most of the points left into beauty and speech until charm and negotiation reach at least 45 and 51 respectively.
Last thing, do NOT rob apothecary Nel's place. He'll know it's you. He won't report you but you won't get tarot buffs from him anymore.
Thanks, very helpful and concise summary for min maxxers lol. What, I've robbed the fortune teller/ apothecary a few times and he still gives me fortune/tarot (is it only locked for the "great fortunes"?) I still get positive one like the increased negotiation for the day and the increased intimidation on some days. This is on 1.06 version.
 

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the way ppl played physical build was equipping 4 stun/curse passives, it was so strong stunlocking/silencing everything the author had to patch in resistance for mobs n bosses in 1.08
Man, so that was a way, last time I played phys build, I just bulldoze with a gun.
 

winterwisp

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Thanks, very helpful and concise summary for min maxxers lol. What, I've robbed the fortune teller/ apothecary a few times and he still gives me fortune/tarot (is it only locked for the "great fortunes"?) I still get positive one like the increased negotiation for the day and the increased intimidation on some days. This is on 1.06 version.
It's not like he stops you but doesn't his neg/chrm cost spike to 70? That's basically a ban for me.
Edit: oh, right, I don't know whether I've found all locations to purify seeds or not but I got 10, one for the sister, one for Hilda and 8 left to craft 2 perfect 5th elements. Another thing, you can also combine 4 tainted seeds there to make one tainted 5th element. In short, in a run, you can get 2 tainted and 2 perfect 5th elements, one tainted one got from amanda after you give her the scarf gotten from her old house in shrine maiden village.
 
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Hentai user

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After a bit of experimentation, it feels like most side quests have good endings, but they require you to keep those npcs in town after completing their full quest. Like if you keep the noble boy in town you can get the Princess marriage ending.

Finding what to do to progress story quests can be extremely obscure and it's easy to make a mistake and deadend a questline. Without a full walkthrough most of the quests are likely too obscure for players to naturally find solutions to them.
whoa that interesting , i guess this deserve another playthrought , ty for a hint
 

chronos0982

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After 4 playthroughs, I feel physical builds really needs to get an overhaul. The build has good sustain but rather low damage compared to 2 other builds. It would be one thing if it has good survivability but no, it has about the same durability as a mage build and lower than priest builds. Priest build in particular has water shield and it directly reduces damage by an amount so much that bosses seem like tougher mobs. All while it has thunder spells. That thing is so disgustingly busted as there are so few enemies that are resistant of them that it barely matters and even if they do, the damage is still about the same as weaker prayer spells when they don't hit weakness. Then it also has a spell for lavawalking, sth terribly needed for 5th floor. poison swamp is just annoying but you can somewhat mitigate it, while lava is not fine.
Also, when making perfect 5th element, I see the mention of making some kind of key to banish the old god, how do we get the key or it's sth that doesn't exist?
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Is the thunder skill this one? I tried using it with 60 int but my dmg is really low at only 35 with prayer stat at 22 and max out order. I dont get how or what this spell scales on.If it scales with prayer then how do I increase it? Its not one of the stats you can increase with aether.

Regarding the physical build survivability, it actually has the highest survivability because power hitter (chance to stun on hit) is stackable. Meaning you can use 2/3 power hitter + giant sword which skills give stun on hit to perma stun enemies giving you infinite turn and you dont take dmg cuz enemy is stunned forever
 

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How do I unlock this door. I cant seem to find the way for this, I want the statue inside this to unlock 4th floor? Can someone help please
 

Hentai user

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After a bit of experimentation, it feels like most side quests have good endings, but they require you to keep those npcs in town after completing their full quest. Like if you keep the noble boy in town you can get the Princess marriage ending.

Finding what to do to progress story quests can be extremely obscure and it's easy to make a mistake and deadend a questline. Without a full walkthrough most of the quests are likely too obscure for players to naturally find solutions to them.
also quick question , so how do i progress with noble son quest tho (drop me a hint pls) , i felt like i got soft-lock after i help noble son from jail (by giving him invisible potion) , i might missing something here.
 

JohnVans

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Hello is there any other way to get better stats? or Is it just leveling up? Like is there any item that can help increasing stat at all?
 

1overX

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also quick question , so how do i progress with noble son quest tho (drop me a hint pls) , i felt like i got soft-lock after i help noble son from jail (by giving him invisible potion) , i might missing something here.
If you want his ending don't give him the potion, you need to give his letter to another noble (see 1Kiri1 's guide and orapnam69 's lover's ending guide if you need more details)
 
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chronos0982

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also quick question , so how do i progress with noble son quest tho (drop me a hint pls) , i felt like i got soft-lock after i help noble son from jail (by giving him invisible potion) , i might missing something here.
If you gave him the invisible potion then you already picked 1/3 possible ending for him

Good end: You give his letter to someone more powerful than gustave
Neutral end: You give him the invisibility potion to help him escape prison but as an exiled pretty much
Bad end: You give his letter to the inquisitor
 
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feyette

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also quick question , so how do i progress with noble son quest tho (drop me a hint pls) , i felt like i got soft-lock after i help noble son from jail (by giving him invisible potion) , i might missing something here.
giving him the potion gives u an ok end, for the good end u need to give the duke the letter he gave u
 
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winterwisp

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interesting, i'd have assumed STR builds will hit harder since it's the only build that has a SS scaling weapon. i do agree that prayer build is a little too versatile(you can even just face tank poison swamp and use healing prayer), but i guess the balance is not being able to engage in the h-mechanics of a h-game.
Well I also thought that until I see that my priest loadout for battle against the old god has 341 prayer power.
 
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