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Scenes that happen in dreams/imagination are worthless and unsatisfying waste of time. 
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Sex dreams are something I lack interest in. In fact, I used the skip button with dreams in the game (it was pretty obvious they were dreams). For me you can realize all kinds of things in dreams (rape, BDSM, or whatever), because if I can choose I will not see it. But sure other people can enjoy it.I don't want to make Rachel a submissive bitch. She's my favorite mature cutiepie
So stay tuned.
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I don't know what are your plans for the BDSM tag but a girl into bdsm is not a bitch, bdsm is just sex roleplay between lovers.I don't want to make Rachel a submissive bitch. She's my favorite mature cutiepie
So stay tuned.
The obvious girl for a Bdsm route is Roxy because she's already into body modifications, but you can develop that kind of content with any girl you want.
Anyway, I'm fine if Rachel route is just vanilla sex and cuddles
Rachel is the most beautiful female character I've seen in a while. Please focus on her content first.
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so if we dont wanna be romantic with her we have to watch her become a slut, that feels a bit forced to romance her so we dont see her become slutty
Can't seem to scroll down to Yuki's post on the Message board, is that done intentional or is it a mouse/touchpad problem?
Are you talking about the post on the pvu pics page?
If there is no problem, send a screenshot of the moment when this happens.
- Jun 23, 2018
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By necessity, my evidence is in the form of case studies and not statistical analysis.
1) A game that I supported added a sexual abuse backstory to the lead LI a year into the story. The initial reaction was more negative that positive. The developers ignored the Fzone discussion page. One of the developers apparently was so assaulted by negative comments on Discord, that he lost his temper and threatened to put NTR into the game. A lot of the players left the story for good. A year later most of the comments were good (because everyone that now hated the story had left) and the donations had doubled (so the growth of patrons remained constant.) The thing is that at the same time the developers put the abuse backstory into the game, they also began cross promoting the game with other developers. Theoretically, their patronage should done better than remaining consistent with the additional advertising.
2) There was a game that started out as an NTR game. The developer quickly added a non-NTR path which started to garner him some patrons. In his next update he added a sexual abuse backstory for one of his characters. He got negative comments, but he ignored them. Since it's probably been a year since that update, I'm guessing that the game has been abandoned. I can't say that the sexual abuse backstory killed the game since there are many reasons that games get abandoned, but it certainly did not help it.
3) A game that I began playing started out with a rape. I stopped playing it immediately. Months later an update came out where the rape had removed. I started playing the game and found that later in the game, there was another rape scene. I began a conversation with the developer since there was still rape in the game after he claimed that there was not. There was also some additional sexual abuse backstories. He defended his game as was his right. My complaint was the false advertising.
His game never made any money. A well known poster even had a separate Fzone discussion page asking why the game did not make any money. Months later the developer took out the rape scene and started rewriting the game from day one to take out the abuse content. He has not gotten very far with that because he started a second game that contains no such content.
4) I got involved in a discussion in another thread when a poster asked why the game did not make more money. I said it was the sexual abuse and sexual abuse backstory of one of the characters. The developer must have agreed with me (I'm guessing he had received a lot of similar comments from other people) because his original plan was to make one of the abused characters in his first story an LI in a new story. He has since told me that he has changed his mind about that.
5) Another poster in another discussion thread ask the exact same question, why doesn't this story make more money? I again said the sexual abuse backstory of one of the characters. The developer did not believe me. He did a poll of his supporters on his Patreon page. I said that he was using a biased sample group and that was probably not going to discover why people were not supporting his game by asking those that did. To my surprise more than half of his patrons voted to have the sexual abuse backstory removed.
6) Finally, a newer game recently released an update where a rape backstory was removed. I saved this one for last because I believe that MrFriendly was a part of that discussion. While the developer had some defenders in the discussion, they were only willing verbally and not financially. I know because I asked. My guess here is that the developer received additional comments on the topic through Discord or other means to cause him to change his story.
I could go on, but if you look at two stories with similar ratings and have been out roughly the same amount of time; if one of them has sexual abuse in the story or in a backstory, financially it will tend to do worse that the story that does not. It makes sense, these are after all porn games. Sexual abuse is not a part of the majority of porn. Do you think that is because of the morality of porn producers or because it does not sell well?
When I talk about abuse, I'm talking about a character being abused. Most of my discussion goes for sexual abuse but physical abuse applies as well although to a lesser degree. If you are suggesting that the LI was the abuser, then you will players who will not want anything to do with her character. You mentioned that you have seven possible LI's. You have not crossed Roxy off that list for a number of players. Do you really want to cross off some more? Personally I think you should rethink the Roxy story at this point. You have driven some people away from one of the LI's in your initial release. It seems that these same players may not end up being interested in her sister for the same reasons. I just would not be so quick to throw away the romance tag. It would be my guess that it is the second or third most searched for tag with incest being number one and possibly corruption being number two or three.
As always, it's your story and you should write whatever you want to write. If you want to just tell your story, then tell it. If you want to make some money, you might want to listened to what people are telling you. You are going to spend time and effort on a story for Roxy. Is it wise to drive players away from her at this point in the game?
Thanks for the detailed answer.
I once mentioned that there would be no rape in the game. More precisely, I meant any mention of rape and the like. I'm not a fan of something like that. Only if it is part of some kind of role-playing game and gives pleasure to all participants in the process.
Maybe someone will say, "But Roxy has already raped the main character," but I don't think so. Anyway, in the next update I will give the opportunity to avoid this scene. And that doesn't mean that after skipping this scene, you won't be able to continue your relationship with Roxy.
If some players did not like Roxy / her character / scenes with her / her behavior, then this is their decision, and I respect it. If this is unacceptable for them, well, I hope they find their favorite from the remaining heroines. For this, I introduced as many as seven girls. It would be foolish to make of them all gentle cuties who love hugs. I think that for most fans of exclusively romantic relationships, the choice between Carol, Ashley, Yuki, Sarah and Rachel will be enough. I think the choice is wide, right?
I just checked, everything works fine. I'm not very good at programming, but in the code, the smartphone screen is registered as a viewport with the ability to scroll.
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I agree with your assessment that there needs to be different types of girls. I think that having Roxy as being sexually aggressive is fine. I think making her a total slut is a mistake. As currently written, she basically says hello to him and then they have sex. If it were me, I would let players decide whether or not to have sex with Roxy in the locker room, but as Roxy. Players could decide whether she's a slut or not. Let them at least have a conversation before she attacks him if that is what the player wants. A lot of players have a thing for redheads (including me.) Right now you apparently have only two redheads and they both seem to be slutty characters.
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So you're saying that in the 2000+ comments that you have made, you have never made a suggestion about what content you would like to see in a story.
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Suggestion is one thing trying to change stablished characters or plots is another.
Weren't you offended by Haley Story or something like that? Well, that game is doing pretty well because the devs stick to their guns and didn't change their story to please a few who complained.
I understand that you don't like some things in a story, it happens to all of us. You have two options, to play the dev story or to go and play something else.
University of Problems has introduced several girls ans plots, I don't like every girl and that's fine. I like Roxy the way she is and don't think she need to be changed into another character.
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I was not offended by HS; I did not like the turn the story took along with many other people including the moderator of the discussion group and one of the people actually working on the story (who was later fired by P.) . I could argue the success of the story, but I won't here. Game 1 in my long post refers to HS.
As for changing an established story, it is an initial release and the developer has already said that he making the Roxy sex scene avoidable. In my opinion, if the line reads something like: "Does Roxy have sex with MC?" instead of: "Do you have sex with Roxy?" it changes dramatically how many players will perceive her. Not a big difference to anyone who likes Roxy's character as she is. She would still be sexually aggressive later on, but she would know more about MC than just his name before she had sex with him. Her character would not really be changed, but I think that it would change the perception of some of the players who currently don't like her.
I expressed my opinion, exchanged some respectful comments with developer, there's nothing wrong with that. I'm not sure that:
As for changing an established story, it is an initial release and the developer has already said that he making the Roxy sex scene avoidable. In my opinion, if the line reads something like: "Does Roxy have sex with MC?" instead of: "Do you have sex with Roxy?" it changes dramatically how many players will perceive her. Not a big difference to anyone who likes Roxy's character as she is. She would still be sexually aggressive later on, but she would know more about MC than just his name before she had sex with him. Her character would not really be changed, but I think that it would change the perception of some of the players who currently don't like her.
I expressed my opinion, exchanged some respectful comments with developer, there's nothing wrong with that. I'm not sure that:
was the appropriate comment for the particular conversation we were having.
- Jun 26, 2018
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What game is HS?
I don't read anything disrespectful in your comments. I personally have no problem with a character with a past of sexual abuse (if the sexual abuser isn't the character, and haven't see the abuses). But the Dev needs, in my opinion, to be very careful with these types of characters, they are usually broken and it is difficult to find a balance in these types of games. On the other hand, each person has different responses to the same situations, it isn't necessary to make a default abused character, it is better, I think, to add some unique points that make the character different from other abused people.
About Roxy, You have a point. At now, I won't be sure if I want to develop a relationship with this character until see how the Dev makes the changes. With the actual story line I prefer avoid this character, and posibly Nataly (the sister), but about her I will be sure in future updates (but I have a strong feeling that will happen)