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That warrants more than half a year to drop an update that has an hour of gameplay? (give or take)If only the people knew how much work there is behind a game like this…
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That warrants more than half a year to drop an update that has an hour of gameplay? (give or take)If only the people knew how much work there is behind a game like this…
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To be honest? He wasn't judging the dev's life at all. He was judging the lack of content update for the game! That's all folks here care about. So... as I see it? You're just full of your own "I wannabee game dev" shit. All you're doing is being emphatic to yourself and projecting it on a random game dev.And maybe you are wrong. You simply don't know if he is working on this game or not, you don't know if he don't post on Discord anything because he is too busy or not, you don't know if he has done those renders to confirm he is still working on this game or not. You don't know nothing, but nevertheless you are judging him.
I know (something), because I'm helping a developer of this forum and I'm learning to use Daz 3D, so I know how much time a person can spent to define the various part of the games, the various events, the various quests, the various subplots, to decide what ideas work and what don't. You could spent an hour to render an image (not to create and then render, only to render), an hour in which you can't do almost nothing with your computer, but you don't know anything of that, like you don't know and don't care if he has to work ten hours at day, five days at week, if he has some friends to have fun, a family to take care…
Let me tell you a story. It's a long story, but I think it's an important one.That warrants more than half a year to drop an update that has an hour of gameplay? (give or take)
Ah Sigmund Freud of Nobody, what do you thing I was talking about?To be honest? He wasn't judging the dev's life at all. He was judging the lack of content update for the game! That's all folks here care about. So... as I see it? You're just full of your own "I wannabee game dev" shit. All you're doing is being emphatic to yourself and projecting it on a random game dev.
Not a single person on this board gives a shit about you learning Daz 3D and the time you think sane people would need for anything they do. All folks here care about is game quality and "regular" updates. The update frequency depends on the dev and the amount he/she puts out every update. But this dev going 7 months without an update? You can factually say dev has neglected the game. And the fact dev is posting renders on Patreon? It means nothing in regard to game progression. It's a great way to keep Patrons aboard though... Every member on this board can sum up several devs who milked an abandoned game for many months (or even 1+ year), posting renders on Patreon and do nothing more. I'll start by naming the first who comes up in my mind: "Gumdrop". And in essence the fucker is still doing it. He just became a little smarter. So called "updates" with a few renders ... without actual game content.![]()
Exactly, Where It All Began is my prime example of this,okay, dev basically remade the game yet for 1 year wait there's a 40 minutes of gameplay (and i think im being generous with the timeframe.)That warrants more than half a year to drop an update that has an hour of gameplay? (give or take)
Oh, right, he should drop his daily job, leave his family and sit down and make a game as fast as you think should be appropriate, even while he's hooked to a ventilator in a hospital.Exactly, Where It All Began is my prime example of this,okay, dev basically remade the game yet for 1 year wait there's a 40 minutes of gameplay (and i think im being generous with the timeframe.)
As Carbon reminded us, he had major problems lately. No wonder this time there was more to wait then usual. Also, yes, it's not mystery that the release schedule of Unleashed is always been defintely on the slow side of the spectrum. Well, live with it. I personally respect Carbon and it's work, and it takes him time, as i often pointed. So, leave or take, that's how this title go. Since i personally don't pay a cent for it i sure won't complain. When there will be more content out i'll enjoy it. Until then i'll enjoy other things. And as always, best wishes to Carbon to be back on track with everything.That warrants more than half a year to drop an update that has an hour of gameplay? (give or take)
I care, live your dreams Idontplay!Not a single person on this board gives a shit about you learning Daz 3D and the time you think sane people would need for anything they do.
I'm not even necessarily calling out Carbon in particular. More so talking generally. A lot of games as of late are taking way too long to put out way too little. Obviously I get it if there's personal stuff to take care of, and of course, I myself, am not a developer, so I don't really know what goes into it. It's just kinda frustrating to see a good game such as this one take so long to progress, because if we're being honest, us as human beings, tend to have no patience.As Carbon reminded us, he had major problems lately. No wonder this time there was more to wait then usual. Also, yes, it's not mystery that the release schedule of Unleashed is always been defintely on the slow side of the spectrum. Well, live with it. I personally respect Carbon and it's work, and it takes him time, as i often pointed. So, leave or take, that's how this title go. Since i personally don't pay a cent for it i sure won't complain. When there will be more content out i'll enjoy it. Until then i'll enjoy other things. And as always, best wishes to Carbon to be back on track with everything.
I quoted someone else with this, but I'll say it again. Obviously personal matters, such as a terrible state of covid, would come first. It's good to see you are doing better, and pardon me if my previous comment came off as "insensitive" or "entitled." By no means am I sitting here saying we should be getting updates on the 1st of every month. I get that some devs work slower than others, and some devs have full on teams backing them, helping push out quality updates as fast as possible. It is just upsetting to see some devs put out a few updates. Start seeing success with these updates, and then get "lazy" for lack of a better word, once the money starts coming in. Like I said, it's good to see you are doing better, and hopefully you can be feeling 100% sometime here soon.Let me tell you a story. It's a long story, but I think it's an important one.
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...so if I don't get the updates out quickly, I do apologize. But I've gone through some shit. The game is not dead. It will never die, as long as I live. Updates are coming. This update will probably be much less than an hour of gameplay. But I think it'll be good. I think you guys are going to really like the ending. And I plan on putting you through some "wtf?" moments as well. But it's going to take time and I ask for patience while I get back into rendering shape.
I feel bad for you man. But in the end you have paying patrons who paid for what exactly? Updates to the game progression. They got a few renders and no game update. That's the business aspect of getting paid to create something. You didn't deliver what was advertised. That's all there is to it. And as long as you can keep you patrons happy with renders? Go for broke!? But when it comes to gameplay updates? There wasn't any. That fact is there and nothing will change that anymore. For the rest it's up to you to blow life in the game again ... or not. I'll keep an eye on this thread just incase you do.Let me tell you ... ... back into rendering shape.
I wasnt even talking about this dev lol but sure I might have patience issues (guess waiting for 1 year just for 30 so minutes of gameplay, sorry not everyone can be a zen master like you) by your standards but I'm glad I dont have anger issues like you.Oh, right, he should drop his daily job, leave his family and sit down and make a game as fast as you think should be appropriate, even while he's hooked to a ventilator in a hospital.
You're a true genius. Thanks for the facepalm, it's a true honour to get one from someone like you.
A long time ago, artists used to have patrons who supported them not for specific work, but for general support: to ensure they'd live and create. That's the general idea of Patreon. I consider their support more for me as a person than for specific things.I feel bad for you man. But in the end you have paying patrons who paid for what exactly?
Quick question, if you feel like people are being stupid with their money, why do you feel the need to say something?gl in your future endeavours
And this is exactly why I support you and other developers on Patreon. Unfortunately, it is at a low level, since I am spreading my limited financial resources among several developers.A long time ago, artists used to have patrons who supported them not for specific work, but for general support: to ensure they'd live and create. That's the general idea of Patreon. I consider their support more for me as a person than for specific things.
What other people do with their money is not up to me. I would never call anyone "stupid" for paying for a few renders a month. The excuses (how viable and/or justifiable they may seem/be) can't hide the fact the updates didn't come. That's all there is to it for me. Devs should do whatever they please. I would never ask a dev to add/change things to my liking etc. I simply observe what they do by judging what I get. If I like it? I do support it. If not ... or there's no progress? I won't support or drop my support. Read I didn't tell anyone to do the same? Good.Quick question, if you feel like people are being stupid with their money, why do you feel the need to say something?
Yes! It is the people accusing people of milking others for money that are the true victims in all this.To get back to your question. If someone calls out the fact he/she didn't get what they had hoped for? It's a bit sickening how fast folks attack a person who brings it up and muddy the waters.