Upcoming Game: [NLT] The Genesis Order, News & Discussion Thread

[Abduxuel]

You know F95 is not the place where this happens... but consciously or not you do the same thing with all sorts of critics OR praises whatsoever... difference is here your voice is not heard but you do actually the same thing as do the " story-group " on the other platform ( as well as all the others [ possibly me included ] that do as such ! ) so if you want to see a creative version of the game ( from NLT-s side ) then you me and all the others should let it play out as was intended by the developer ( no praise no critics ) and approx 2 years later each of us can judge for him/herself whether or not it was good or bad... fat chance this is ever gonna happen since this goes full frontal against human nature so you me and all the others will receive what will be the devs decision ( whether it's tainted by others idea or not AND money ofc ! )


I see this trilogy more and more often... who said anything about a trilogy ??? Don't get me wrong I would really welcome an ending to this ( and understand ultimately what it was about ) but still speculations not necessarily will do good... Seen some really wild theories already

Actually what I was trying to do was to see if anybody else was hoping for better story content in TGO than ToN or if I was the only one wanting such a thing and basically a voice in the wilderness. I have no illusions that anything anybody posts casually on a site like this has any pull whatsoever with anybody at NLT Media, which business, I am sure, will continue to adjust their product in ways which garner maximum support and income. Good luck to them I say. With an audience so easily pleased why would anybody exert themselves to produce more and better content instead of staying snug at home and toting up their earnings? It's human nature to do things like that, as you yourself observe, and I don't blame NLT Media at all for committing themselves to follow the path of least resistance and highest reward for as long as they can and forever if possible. No skin off my nose, as they say, because I'm one of those not paying!

 

[sixart]

Actually what I was trying to do was to see if anybody else was hoping for better story content in TGO than ToN or if I was the only one who wanting such a thing and basically a voice in the wilderness. I have no illusions that anything anybody posts casually on a site like this has any pull whatsoever with anybody at NLT Media, which business, I am sure, will continue to adjust their product in ways which garner maximum support and income. Good luck to them I say. With an audience so easily pleased why would anybody exert themselves to produce more and better content instead of snug at home and toting up their earnings? It's human nature to do things like that, as you yourself observe, and I don't blame NLT Media in the least for committing themselves to follow the path of least resistance and highest reward for as long as they can and forever if possible. No skin off my nose, as they say, because I'm one of those not paying!

That's the spirit !

Just a cheap fuck, who steals his work

Welp I don't think that a cheap fuck equals pirate at all but I get what you are saying... besides among those who are really qualifying to this " honorary " title you should be at the end of the list who looks at himself such as ! In fact I could mention the ( at least ) 50% of the users who could reflect on themselves...

 

[cold_arctus]

Actually what I was trying to do was to see if anybody else was hoping for better story content in TGO than ToN or if I was the only one who wanting such a thing and basically a voice in the wilderness. I have no illusions that anything anybody posts casually on a site like this has any pull whatsoever with anybody at NLT Media, which business, I am sure, will continue to adjust their product in ways which garner maximum support and income. Good luck to them I say. With an audience so easily pleased why would anybody exert themselves to produce more and better content instead of snug at home and toting up their earnings? It's human nature to do things like that, as you yourself observe, and I don't blame NLT Media in the least for committing themselves to follow the path of least resistance and highest reward for as long as they can and forever if possible. No skin off my nose, as they say, because I'm one of those not paying!

No, you are not alone. Many people think that ToN went down the drain (me included) on the second half of the story. All those non-stop sex scenes and group sex scenes became ridiculous, and that comes from someone who likes group sex scenes (including MMF). I gave up on the game/story when MC fucked Janet three or four times in a row (when their home were infested with rats and they stayed at Sophia's mansion) and the dialogues completely ignored it and continued with the dull dialogues during sex scenes.

Welp I don't think that a cheap fuck equals pirate at all but I get what you are saying... besides among those who are really qualifying to this " honorary " title you should be at the end of the list who looks at himself such as !

That's so sweet of you! Maybe it is about time to put you off my ignore list.

 

[Garrettino]

That's so sweet of you! Maybe it is about time to put you off my ignore list.

SAVAGE.

 

[WeaselX]

the dull dialogues during sex scenes.

The astonishingly dull dialogues. "Oh, it's so deep" "Oh, it's so good" "Oh, let's cum together" rinse, repeat.

 

[Abduxuel]

Sure. In the General sense this all mostly makes sense, but knowing many, if not MOST of the NLT Story Group (Yes that is what they are officially called as well) personally, I get the sense that they don't sway NLT's creative direction as much as you may think. Sure, like many Patreon based Devs they use polls and value subscriber feedback, but as any artist will tell you that's been the case since the renaissance even. No, instead it's more like he(NLT) offers up a few creative directions he's been considering, THEN has the Story Group give their input and sways his direction from there. I shouldn't speak on the process without first-hand experience as I'm NOT one of the Story Group myself, but I also know NLT is the type to be way ahead of schedule (2 week updates? cmon, no one else competes) and maybe not completely racking content up and dolling them out piece by piece as a form of milking; but he's definitely thinking far ahead at any given point in the pipeline, and his planning and well organized workflow and roadmaps are what keep him towards the top of the Adult Patreon Rankings, rest assured.

TL: DR This particular Story Group (probably) has less early concept influence than was hinted by your statement.
-Shout-outs to his Project Group and Beta Testers as well!

Hand on heart IMHO whoever is responsible for the storytelling and dialogue in the latter half of Treasure of Nadia, whether NLT personally or his story group collectively, needs to buck up their ideas because, as far as I am concerned, his/their efforts suck big time. For me, a non-stop parade of bewildering animated sex scenes, one after another after another, with little or no story, dialogue or narration to justify or explain them gets old very quickly; no matter what sexual acts are included or how many characters perform them excess like this become incredibly tedious after a while and interest in the game wanes surprisingly quickly. For me as the game progressed and the quality of the story became inversely proportional to the number of sexual animations released I ended so inured to such copious lewd content I began flipping through the animations, hardly bothering to look at them at all, to get to the next dribble of plot, puzzle or task as soon as possible. Twice a month I downloaded, installed, played through and completed each ToN update, never looking at the game again until the following update was released. Eventually I realized that the once great Treasure of Nadia had become little more than a habit I'd slipped into, completely failing to engage or entertain me in the way it did originally because the animated sexual content had completely overwhelmed what storytelling remained and I had almost completely lost interest in the game because of it.

This doesn't mean that what NLT Media is doing is wrong only that it's wrong for me... or more correctly isn't enough for me... certainly not interesting and entertaining enough to contribute any of my hard earned money towards developing.

Takes all sorts to make a world.

 

[cold_arctus]

Hand on heart IMHO whoever is responsible for the storytelling and dialogue in the latter half of Treasure of Nadia, whether NLT personally or his story group collectively, well, as far as I am concerned his/their efforts these day suck big time, and, for me, a non-stop parade of bewildering animated sex scenes, one after another after another, with little or no story, dialogue or narration to justify or explain them gets very old very quickly: no matter what sexual acts are involved and how many characters perform them, excess like this become incredibly boring after a while and interest in the game itself evaporates over time. For me as the game progressed and the quality of the story became inversely proportional to the number of sexual animations, I ended up so inured to the copious lewd content I started flipping through the animations, hardly bothering to look at them, to get as quickly as possible to the next dribble of plot, puzzle or task as quickly as possible. Twice a month I downloaded, installed, played through and completed each ToN update, never looking at the game again until the following update was released. Eventually I realized that the once great Treasure of Nadia had become little more than a habit I'd slipped into, completely failing to engage or entertain me in the way it did originally because the animated sexual content had completely overwhelmed what confused storytelling remained and gradually lost interest in the game despite myself.

This doesn't mean that what NLT Media is doing is wrong only that it's wrong for me... or more correctly isn't enough for me... certainly not entertaining enough to contribute any of my hard earned money towards developing.

Takes all sorts to make a world.

It's the same for me. I waited almost a year before I played ToN for the first time and then dropped it around ~40%. I had to force myself to continue to play it, because I don't want to leave the game unfinished, but all those nonsense sex animation bored the hell out of me. You finish a three- or foursome scene only to trigger the next group orgy. The story itself isn't bad and the plot was actually quiet enjoyable. I think for TGO I won't wait until it's almost finished and play each update on release date to avoid to get bored from to many sex scenes in a single game session.

Btw: The Story and Beta tester group was created way later. It took NLT some time before he started to trust people and agreed to create a Beta tester group (according to my source).

Possible that development of TGO had some setbacks which forced NLT to "extend" ToG more than he had planned (unrelated to the current bonus scenes), but this is all pure speculation from my side.

Since development of TGO is almost done, I only hope, that the fourth game will have more than a single MC. Maybe a group of people, and the player has to switch between them. A story told from many different perspectives allowing more character development with different characters and sex scenes.

 

[DD69-1]

The amount of hate here is amazing
best advice is if you don't like it don't play it but that won't be case unfortunately, since ppl will continue playing this [treasure of nadia] and third game so.. hope nlt continues what he's doing the same even after the third game to piss more ppl off, because his patreons keep increasing & honestly it's a porn game .. not farcry, watch dogs, gta ..

 

[sixart]

*snip
Takes all sorts to make a world.

Ditto !

*snip
Btw: The Story and Beta tester group was created way later. It took NLT some time before he started to trust people and agreed to create a Beta tester group (according to my source).

Possible that development of TGO had some setbacks which forced NLT to "extend" ToG more than he had planned (unrelated to the current bonus scenes), but this is all pure speculation from my side.

Since development of TGO is almost done, I only hope, that the fourth game will have more than a single MC. Maybe a group of people, and the player has to switch between them. A story told from many different perspectives allowing more character development with different characters and sex scenes.

First segment ditto !

I dunno about you guys but is it REALLY necessary to have a story group ??? ( seeing what the result was... ) Beta testers although the other hand is a much needed support which was actually non existent in the latter part ( v79-now ) so I don't know what you guys think but the priorities have shifted here and not for the good of the whole game... ( let's be honest a horndog MOFO could have come up with THIS storytelling which we suffered through from about 50-60 percent or so... )

ToG is a typo for ToN right ??? If not you got me lost there for the first time...

The third installment has not even come out yet but still there are some wild theories floating around like " trilogy " or now " fourth game "... to be honest if I would have to guess I would go with the latter even extending it to more games to come ( seeing how the REAL plot is actually unseen unknown and not moving an inch onward )

I would disagree with your multiplayer idea ( or at least let's just say the whole game structure needs to be changed for that to not get lost in it if it should stay this 60+ part release ) The multiplayer in itself is welcome ( much more content room for development both world & characters... etc ) but it would be a bitch to push through it ( compared to LE or TON or TGO ) which means again fat chance this is going to happen

 

[cold_arctus]

The amount of hate here is amazing

Nothing to do with hate just a bit disappointed and frustrated with NLT's game(s).

I dunno about you guys but is it REALLY necessary to have a story group ??? ( seeing what the result was... ) Beta testers although the other hand is a much needed support which was actually non existent in the latter part ( v79-now ) so I don't know what you guys think but the priorities have shifted here and not for the good of the whole game... ( let's be honest a horndog MOFO could have come up with THIS storytelling which we suffered through from about 50-60 percent or so... )

We will know after TGO reached the 50-60% mark.

ToG is a typo for ToN right ??? If not you got me lost there for the first time...

Yep.

The third installment has not even come out yet but still there are some wild theories floating around like " trilogy " or now " fourth game "... to be honest if I would have to guess I would go with the latter even extending it to more games to come ( seeing how the REAL plot is actually unseen unknown and not moving an inch onward )

Do you really think NLT would say no to the money he earn right no? I don't think so!

Btw. didn't he himself or his marketing-guru wrote that the story's final conclusion (about Madelyn and the demons) will come to end with TGO? If it is correct, then LE, ToN and TGO are indeed a trilogy.

I would disagree with your multiplayer idea ( or at least let's just say the whole game structure needs to be changed for that to not get lost in it if it should stay this 60+ part release ) The multiplayer in itself is welcome ( much more content room for development both world & characters... etc ) but it would be a bitch to push through it ( compared to LE or TON or TGO ) which means again fat chance this is going to happen

Well it would allow him to work on a single game for more than a year. He could start with two MCs (or female and male) and then switch between them. Each month a MC gets an update.

 

[DD69-1]

Nothing to do with hate just a bit disappointed and frustrated with NLT's game(s).

Well it would allow him to work on a single game for more than a year. He could start with two MCs (or female and male) and then switch between them. Each month a MC gets an update.

bro, if you're disappointed don't play it, you will regret it more then

i don't think he will have more than one mc, in any of his future games tbh, he had them in comics, but in game, one mc plus lotta women gets a lot of $$, in the end sadly it's all about $$, see icstor, iccreations, darkcookie, magicnuts, all have a single mc and are very successful projects, if it's not broke don't fix it, story & character development can be done with one mc too i feel, which ton lacks, but play porn games for porn and not story, there are normal games for story, check steam & epic games

 

[sixart]

Btw. didn't he himself or his marketing-guru wrote that the story's final conclusion (about Madelyn and the demons) will come to end with TGO? If it is correct, then LE, ToN and TGO are indeed a trilogy.

If it happened it happened... although I have not read such things anywhere... just hearsay right and left but until I read this from an official source I'm considering this as speculation(s) !

Well it would allow him to work on a single game for more than a year. He could start with two MCs (or female and male) and then switch between them. Each month a MC gets an update.

As easy as this sounds just think back the good ol' times where noodles couldn't merge 2 folders on one another and... oh snap ! this is our present !!! If the 2 ( ? or more ? ) MC will be in one place it is not a problem but if we complicate things and the story shifts wide range from here to there then there should be 2 separate games in one to have a good track on each one... now let's switch back to the pas..... I mean the present where a single folder merger is an insurmountable problem... This is asking for a disaster ( ofc it's not actually a big deal but hey ! we are where we are ! )

 

[cold_arctus]

bro, if you're disappointed don't play it, you will regret it more then

You know you can disagree with someone's work and still be curious about it.

i don't think he will have more than one mc, in any of his future games tbh, he had them in comics, but in game, one mc plus lotta women gets a lot of $$, in the end sadly it's all about $$, see icstor, iccreations, darkcookie, magicnuts, all have a single mc and are very successful projects, if it's not broke don't fix it, story & character development can be done with one mc too i feel, which ton lacks, but play porn games for porn and not story, there are normal games for story, check steam & epic games

Absolutely correct and nothing wrong with that as long as MC is an interesting character and not a dumb horndog.

I'm sure that ICSTOR, ICCreations, DC and many other devs wouldn't have the same numbers of supporters, if they would release their games today. Many new devs deliver much better content/renders/animation compare to mentioned devs. Most of them are stuck and burned-out and use it as an excuse to "milk" their paying supporters farther. Well, there were lucky that they were one of the first who produced incest games with good-looking models.

 

[DD69-1]

You know you can disagree with someone's work and still be curious about it.

Absolutely correct and nothing wrong with that as long as MC is an interesting character and not a dumb horndog.

I'm sure that ICSTOR, ICCreations, DC and many other devs wouldn't have the same numbers of supporters, if they would release their games today. Many new devs deliver much better content/renders/animation compare to mentioned devs. Most of them are stuck and burned-out and use it as an excuse to "milk" their paying supporters farther. Well, there were lucky that they were one of the first who produced incest games with good-looking models.

yes, but by playing it, if you know you gonna be disappointed then why go through with it ..

icstor, psycho, lewdlab milk the most bro in my opinion

 

[PhineasFlynn]

You know you can disagree with someone's work and still be curious about it.

Absolutely correct and nothing wrong with that as long as MC is an interesting character and not a dumb horndog.

I'm sure that ICSTOR, ICCreations, DC and many other devs wouldn't have the same numbers of supporters, if they would release their games today. Many new devs deliver much better content/renders/animation compare to mentioned devs. Most of them are stuck and burned-out and use it as an excuse to "milk" their paying supporters farther. Well, there were lucky that they were one of the first who produced incest games with good-looking models.

Man, I like ICCreations RPGM games, but you must agree there is no one with engine modifications like NLT. Devs usually use standards settings. From NLT games I have feelling like I play "real" game. (Ok end of game is too scriptic and there are too much ingame animations.)
Most of another game looks like all another hentai games 20years before.

And label someone by "Milker" and naming ICSTOR in the same sentence is not entirely kosher. He bring me on f95zone, but it was his last update for almost 2 years.
But I agree the way wich NLT release his games is inconspicuous way of milking. He probably have complete game long time before last release.

 

[cold_arctus]

From NLT games I have feelling like I play "real" game. (Ok end of game is too scriptic and there are too much ingame animations.)
Most of another game looks like all another hentai games 20years before.

Totally agree with you and I love what he is able to do with RPG Maker MV.

 

[Kellermann]

I only hope, that the fourth game will have more than a single MC. Maybe a group of people, and the player has to switch between them.

Oh god, please no. No, just no. Switching protags works for Tolstoy novels. There I can handle it, but I absolutely hate that shit in porn games.

 

[TheRequestor]

Weekly Report

This Wednesday comes the next chapter of Treasure of Nadia which will have you going up against the feared jaguar one more time! In addition to the somewhat obvious setup scene I just gave away, there is a new Kamasutra page and an all new threesome Kamasutra puzzle to solve. That's three scenes and also a bonus pinup!

The Genesis Order's first chapter is being finalized in these next couple days and the storyboard for all the animations are being put together. Soon animation will start for the first chapter and it's going to be a big first chapter!

The above teaser image shows an area you'll be able to visit in The Genesis Order. This new diner is a somewhat upgraded hangout for drinks and food when compared to the poorly run "Full Mast" bar. But if you think our new town of North Santiva is free from the lackluster business management skills of Tasha... think again!

Stay tuned for previews from October's extended ending chapter of Treasure of Nadia featuring a long awaited scene with Naomi and Janet. The poll on Discord's Patreon channels have resulted in some fun threesome ideas! But it's not too late to keep voting!

Thank you everyone for the support and have a great week!

 

[Kellermann]

This new diner is a somewhat upgraded hangout for drinks and food when compared to the poorly run "Full Mast" bar. But if you think our new town of North Santiva is free from the lackluster business management skills of Tasha... think again!

My poor Tasha
No wonder she is so angry all of the time.

 

[Think Tank]

Weekly Report

This Wednesday comes the next chapter of Treasure of Nadia which will have you going up against the feared jaguar one more time! In addition to the somewhat obvious setup scene I just gave away, there is a new Kamasutra page and an all new threesome Kamasutra puzzle to solve. That's three scenes and also a bonus pinup!

The Genesis Order's first chapter is being finalized in these next couple days and the storyboard for all the animations are being put together. Soon animation will start for the first chapter and it's going to be a big first chapter!

The above teaser image shows an area you'll be able to visit in The Genesis Order. This new diner is a somewhat upgraded hangout for drinks and food when compared to the poorly run "Full Mast" bar. But if you think our new town of North Santiva is free from the lackluster business management skills of Tasha... think again!

Stay tuned for previews from October's extended ending chapter of Treasure of Nadia featuring a long awaited scene with Naomi and Janet. The poll on Discord's Patreon channels have resulted in some fun threesome ideas! But it's not too late to keep voting!

Thank you everyone for the support and have a great week!

The Dart board is too low ....

I'll get back to you on the rest .....