RPGM Completed Urban Demons [v1.1 Beta] [Nergal]

[SmurfyBlue]

That would be nice. Being able to walk through things always made the game feel cheaper.
A minor change I always wanted the most is having the mother start out already next to your bed in the mornings when she comes to wake you up. When you're playing for awhile, having to watch her walk from the ladder each and every time is excruciating and a waste of time.

1: It did make it feel a bit cheaper.
2: Noted

I don't know what to do, the scene still doesn't start.

Do you get a different sort of error? Maybe your save/game got glitched out because you were running it through a System Locale. Try a fresh download and/or save.
I'm really sorry, but this sort of problem is contained to your computer, and I can't look over your shoulder at your computer to see if I can notice something wrong. This really is the only sort of problem I can't help with and, as I said, I'm really sorry about that. :c

Wootch never made it to .2.

He kinda did, his naming scheme was different. Where as Nergal went 0.1 -> 0.2 ->....-> 0.8 Wootch went 0.1.0 -> 0.1.1 ->....-> 0.1.8
But you're right, Wootch never had a 0.8, but he did have his equivalent of it in the form of 0.1.8

 

[wewlad]

Did he seriously quit because nobody wanted that Fred inclusion in the sex scenes?

• Implements Fred buildup in game dialog and scenes
• Patreons complain
• Trys to force Fred in game by including him in the end result of polls despite being one of the least voted for
• Patreons complain
• Bashes patreons and non patreons for acting as a "loud minority" responsible for opposing votes for Fred
• Holds a second special poll
• Fred loses poll by half of all patreons
• Quits

I'm seriously still laughing from all of this. I never knew this cuck shit was so popular among developers and creators.

 

[SmurfyBlue]

Did he seriously quit because nobody wanted that Fred inclusion in the sex scenes?

• Implements Fred buildup in game dialog and scenes
• Patreons complain
• Trys to force Fred in game by including him in the end result of polls despite being one of the least voted for
• Patreons complain
• Bashes patreons and non patreons for acting as a "loud minority" responsible for opposing votes for Fred
• Holds a second special poll
• Fred loses poll by half of all patreons
• Quits

I'm seriously still laughing from all of this. I never knew this cuck shit was so popular among developers and creators.

Although I doubt that this is the actual reason he quit, it is possible that it was an influence on it.
On one hand I believe he shouldn't have had a poll about WHAT to include into the game and instead do a "which one first" poll. That way he could have still put whatever content he wanted into the game while also listening to his patreons/fans.
Also, it's never fun to have people tell you that something you want to do sucks ass and shouldn't be done. That is something that can make any creator give up or lose at least part of if not all of their passion.

 

[Iggybousse]

Kind of don't see the point of quitting if the reason is partially the patreons complaining. He had a good thing going on, must be severely bad for him quitting or he just had enough and won't share that. Either way it is a shame, his games had so much potential.
But mistake me if I am wrong didn't he already tell us he was tired of these games?
He did want to start on something new, maybe it sucked the energy out of him, no pun intended, trying to continue on something he did not want to finish. Maybe I am imagining things.

Hope SmurfyBlue becomes the new Nergal hehe .

 

[SmurfyBlue]

Kind of don't see the point of quitting if the reason is partially the patreons complaining. He had a good thing going on, must be severely bad for him quitting or he just had enough and won't share that. Either way it is a shame, his games had so much potential.
But mistake me if I am wrong didn't he already tell us he was tired of these games?
He did want to start on something new, maybe it sucked the energy out of him, no pun intended, trying to continue on something he did not want to finish. Maybe I am imagining things.

Hope SmurfyBlue becomes the new Nergal hehe .

I doubt that's actually the reason he quit. I don't see what he would gain from lying, so I do believe RL things are the reason he had to quit.
That is possible, he did mention at one point that he wanted to do something new instead of the old projects.

Also, no, I won't become the new Nergal. I would never be able to make a game, from scratch, on my own.
That's why I patch/mod and haven't started something on my own already. I did think about it at one point, but stopped myself from doing it because I don't think I could take the stress XD

 

[Iggybousse]

I doubt that's actually the reason he quit. I don't see what he would gain from lying, so I do believe RL things are the reason he had to quit.
That is possible, he did mention at one point that he wanted to do something new instead of the old projects.

Also, no, I won't become the new Nergal. I would never be able to make a game, from scratch, on my own.
That's why I patch/mod and haven't started something on my own already. I did think about it at one point, but stopped myself from doing it because I don't think I could take the stress XD

Well, to be fair, if you were burned out but had a community that depends on you, what would you say?

'Guys due to personal problems....'
or
'I don't want to make these games anymore, also too many patreons complaining, it's boring...'

Just saying it's very different as how he presents it.
Not saying this is the case however, I just find it weird he isn't elaborating more seeing it's a 6000+ dollar page.
I think the Patreons deserve some explanation. As you said, he has nothing to lose really and I think it would make the Patreons understand a bit more. I am just placing myself in their shoes to be honest.

I also bought games like Subnautica, Osiris New Dawn (made by only 2 people), and more early access games, and even Indie starters I am backing up. If they were to suddenly quit with the notion of simply telling us personal problems there would be a shitstorm online. People actually paid for game progression.

Now I know with these kind of games (porn) that won't happen, but it's a dangerous aspect. There are a lot of abandoned games. It's the main reason I never pledge.

 

[SmurfyBlue]

*snip because too long*

Like I said, I do believe that the "personal problems" are the real reason he quit.
I just think that the fact that his community was going against something he wanted (although he never said it out right) hastened his decision to quit instead of taking a break.

I would personally probably go into a bit more detail about what my "problems" were. But that's up to him.

I'm not sure you can compare these two things.
Indie and Early Access games are funded/made differently from most Patreon game projects.
But I'm not gonna go into a discussion about this, and definitely not in this thread because that's not what this thread is for.

 

[Ken Moreno]

I don't think the reason he quit was because of fred,Nergal never showed that much interest in Fred he likes mrs jennings a ton he even said,that it was his favorite girl/content to make.I do believe that the making of 2 games drove him crazy,he had already taken a break which was like a warning that it was getting to him,I guess just over time he burned out,having to work then come home to work on the 2 games in your free time that's killer,plus we don't know if maybe he is struggling with money,sickness,maybe someone dear to him passed or relationship problems,I mean the speculations could go on forever we won't ever know because he wants to keep it private and I respect that,what I will say is that I think he quit for the moment so he can resolve his life,since all he has been doing for the past year is go to work come back and do more work,he'll I go to work and don't want to do nothing else I don't blame him for quitting,he was always a respectable dude.I think he will comeback someday once he deals with life and his motivation for building games comes back,he even said it himself that he might comeback sometime in the far future.

 

[SmurfyBlue]

With the latest update of Nergals Patreon he removed all the links to his Trello's for UD.
I doubt they'll be very active in the future, but for the sake of completion I have added the links to the OP.

 

[trumpthatbitch]

Well, to be fair, if you were burned out but had a community that depends on you, what would you say?

'Guys due to personal problems....'
or
'I don't want to make these games anymore, also too many patreons complaining, it's boring...'

Just saying it's very different as how he presents it.
Not saying this is the case however, I just find it weird he isn't elaborating more seeing it's a 6000+ dollar page.
I think the Patreons deserve some explanation. As you said, he has nothing to lose really and I think it would make the Patreons understand a bit more. I am just placing myself in their shoes to be honest.

I also bought games like Subnautica, Osiris New Dawn (made by only 2 people), and more early access games, and even Indie starters I am backing up. If they were to suddenly quit with the notion of simply telling us personal problems there would be a shitstorm online. People actually paid for game progression.

Now I know with these kind of games (porn) that won't happen, but it's a dangerous aspect. There are a lot of abandoned games. It's the main reason I never pledge.

Agreed obviously Nergal is fine with walking away due to reasons but if I was one of his Patreons I would never donate to him again.

If he finished his work I don't think there would be a problem but to release games in an unfinished state how could his backers trust him again.

This is seriously why I could never donate to Patreon it's my money and when you donate you are basically at the whims of the developer.

 

[meifeng]

Agreed obviously Nergal is fine with walking away due to reasons but if I was one of his Patreons I would never donate to him again.

If he finished his work I don't think there would be a problem but to release games in an unfinished state how could his backers trust him again.

This is seriously why I could never donate to Patreon it's my money and when you donate you are basically at the whims of the developer.

Yea he dint finish but I would donate again,why? Because he busted his ass working for a whole year with a job and 2 games he almost finished plus,he said it himself and many others too you payed for every build and to support his passion,he quit for life problems so What? people already got their money's worth there so much content,some of you act like you never had problems in your life or depression give the man a break he needs it after 1 year of non stop work,and tbh Nergal is probably one of the most trustworthy patreons out there it's a shame people talk bad about him,he always answered truthfully and tried his best to reply to people on discord and patreon,he never scammed us or left with the money like wootch and he always delivered every month with content, I get it people are angry for him not finishing the games but at the end of the day it's just porn,I think Nergal resolving his life is more important and you never know he might comeback someday.

 

[fatedthief]

shit attitude and shit art.
nothing of value was lost ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[EternalLight]

shit attitude and shit art.
nothing of value was lost ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Watch out everyone we got a badass over here lol

 

[SmurfyBlue]

shit attitude and shit art.
nothing of value was lost ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You're entitled to your own opinion, but if that is it why are you even in this thread? XD
I mean, you're welcome to come here and talk about the game, but I don't understand why you're here if you don't... okerFace:

 

[DimitarM12]

GlassFish will continue to work on the Art, but if she going to be paid..

sry bad eng

 

[Ricoramirez]

Hello i have a problem, i can't have the address of Mrs Jennings the night after the babysitting.

 

[King Monkey Mon]

You're entitled to your own opinion, but if that is it why are you even in this thread? XD
I mean, you're welcome to come here and talk about the game, but I don't understand why you're here if you don't... okerFace:

to troll what else anyways what does your mod provide?

 

[Fed]

Is the cuck stuff optional or has it even been added to the game? If it was added what is it? I don't see any tags for it but I noticed people mention it in this thread.

 

[thestickman]

Is the cuck stuff optional or has it even been added to the game? If it was added what is it? I don't see any tags for it but I noticed people mention it in this thread.

There is none. There is a not-yet-implemented option to have a threesome with Mrs. Jennings and Fred. People were talking about not wanting that. Even if 0.8 adds that (not sure if it will with the abandonment and all), it will be avoidable.
Unless you are also counting you (the main character) doing the cucking. In that case, then you definitely cuck Mrs. Jennings' husband.

 

[trumpthatbitch]

Yea he dint finish but I would donate again,why? Because he busted his ass working for a whole year with a job and 2 games he almost finished plus,he said it himself and many others too you payed for every build and to support his passion,he quit for life problems so What? people already got their money's worth there so much content,some of you act like you never had problems in your life or depression give the man a break he needs it after 1 year of non stop work,and tbh Nergal is probably one od the most trustworthy patreons out there it's a shame people talk bad about him,he always answered truthfully and tried his best to reply to people on discord and patreon,I get it people are angry for him not finishing the games but at the end of the day it's just porn,I think Nergal resolving his life is more important and you never know he might comeback someday.

Yea he dint finish but I would donate again,why? Because he busted his ass working for a whole year with a job and 2 games he almost finished plus,he said it himself and many others too you payed for every build and to support his passion,he quit for life problems so What? people already got their money's worth there so much content,some of you act like you never had problems in your life or depression give the man a break he needs it after 1 year of non stop work,and tbh Nergal is probably one of the most trustworthy patreons out there it's a shame people talk bad about him,he always answered truthfully and tried his best to reply to people on discord and patreon,he never scammed us or left with the money like wootch and he always delivered every month with content, I get it people are angry for him not finishing the games but at the end of the day it's just porn,I think Nergal resolving his life is more important and you never know he might comeback someday.

At the end of the day you were scammed because you were left an incomplete product be honest how many would you have donated if Nergal said hey I want to create this game it's got interesting concept art is going to be quite good but quests will be bugged asf and I'll flake out after a year.

He owed to his patreons to finish the game even if the ending was rushed. Heck MZBL was pretty well almost done.

But he probably wants to have his cake and eat it to. He wants to be able to walk away and be able to restart the game if he decides to rejoin patreon. Otherwise he would have to start from scratch with a whole new concept. Whatever I never donated to him and it sort of becomes if other people want to set their money on fire why should I care