RPGM Completed Urban Demons [v1.1 Beta] [Nergal]

[meifeng]

At the end of the day you were scammed because you were left an incomplete product be honest how many would you have donated if Nergal said hey I want to create this game it's got interesting concept art is going to be quite good but quests will be bugged asf and I'll flake out after a year.

He owed to his patreons to finish the game even if the ending was rushed. Heck MZBL was pretty well almost done.

But he probably wants to have his cake and eat it to. He wants to be able to walk away and be able to restart the game if he decides to rejoin patreon. Otherwise he would have to start from scratch with a whole new concept. Whatever I never donated to him and it sort of becomes if other people want to set their money on fire why should I care

Scammed? Lol no I got a new build every month for what 6 dollars? That's pocket change lmao you can talk bad about Nergal all you want but people who dint get to know him on discord and how he is would never understand,y'all act as if 6 dollars is your whole bank account or life when it truly is nothing for so much content he put out and him not finishing is sad but,if something shocking in my life happen I would do the same,its so funny too cause the people that feel more self entitled to judge people and talk smack about them is the freeloaders that don't contribute crap on the development of games,people that dint give even A single dollar have no right to bitch about the game or developer tbh,but what ever keep telling yourself what ever helps you sleep at night,lmao.

 

[trumpthatbitch]

Scammed? Lol no I got a new build every month for what 6 dollars? That's pocket change lmao you can talk bad about Nergal all you want but people who dint get to know him on discord and how he is would never understand,y'all act as if 6 dollars is your whole bank account or life when it truly is nothing for so much content he put out and him not finishing is sad but,if something shocking in my life happen I would do the same,its so funny too cause the people that feel more self entitled to judge people and talk smack about them is the freeloaders that don't contribute crap on the development of games,people that dint give even A single dollar have no right to bitch about the game or developer tbh,but what ever keep telling yourself what ever helps you sleep at night,lmao.

I'm not really interested in contributing to the development of a game (i'm interested in the game duh) and I haven't really been paying attention to his reward system but most of these porn games have like a monthly rate of like 15 dollars to unlock their content per month which would equal what 180 enough to buy three AAA titles over the course of a year. I have donated in the past but thats to studios like Obsidian where I know the game will be completed or my money refunded.

Kickstarter is so much better then patreon because it forces devs to either complete their work or refund you their money. Patreon is almost designed for abuse.

 

[SmurfyBlue]

Hello i have a problem, i can't have the address of Mrs Jennings the night after the babysitting.

You looked at your moms phone while invisible? That should be all there is to it.
You should have gotten a little text mentioning something like "Oh, it's Mrs.J's address!" and then you just know. Maybe you occidentally skipped it, go to the house and check what is said when you interact with the door (during the afternoon).

@trumpthatbitch & @meifeng please take this conversation somewhere else, you're not even talking about Nergal any more you're now just debating the concept of Patreon and that's not what this thread is for.

 

[Ken Moreno]

Well seems like so far nobody seems to be interested in taking over urban demons,though it might be too early,I seriously hope someone with talent could finish it but,glassfish would have to agree to draw and money and resources would have to be gathered again oh boy what a headache,I respect nergals decision but,leaving the game 2 builds away from finishing for some reason bothers the crap out of me must be my OCD,I was looking forward to the threesomes from the poll

 

[Deleted member 28156]

I mean if everyone chipped in, the art could be done, but with the coding and everything else, i don't know... Too much time and if a lot of people are involved, i doubt anything would be done right.

 

[Burt]

So Nergal turned into Wootch no surprise
Neither worked for anyone even their Patreon supporters
So if they want to run away and leave them with an unfinished game why not
As long as they finished the work they promised that month to their patreons its no different than a business going bust or the owner retiring
It might inconvenience people who used the local grocers but people can make life choices based on what's good for them

People think that Patreon devs are special they are on patreon for one reason and one reason only money

Nergal had a blog everything he did was free he opened a Patreon not to further the game but soley to make money
Any (non free) Patreon opens an account for money nothing special here or bad
Being a fanboy/girl of these guys is wierd

Wooch was a dick knew exactly what he was doing.... robbing
Nergal well I will let his Patreon subs decide I always thought he was Wooch pretending to be Nergal (no matter what he states on his Patreon I could state I am a nice guy but thats not true either) but that was my cynical nature

I support many Patreon sites but do it understanding the criterion I posted above
Life can suck so can a baby on the nipple

Corrected many times for my appalling English

 

[SmurfyBlue]

Well seems like so far nobody seems to be interested in taking over urban demons,though it might be too early,I seriously hope someone with talent could finish it but,glassfish would have to agree to draw and money and resources would have to be gathered again oh boy what a headache,I respect nergals decision but,leaving the game 2 builds away from finishing for some reason bothers the crap out of me must be my OCD,I was looking forward to the threesomes from the poll

No one is going to take over UD before Nergal releases the 0.8.X update (or even the 0.8 public two weeks later). After that we'll see if someone is crazy enough to say "You know what? I'mma do this shit!".
Here's to hoping. Also, just because we're at 0.8 doesn't mean we're 2 updates away from a finished product, he can just as well go for 0.10 instead >;D

I mean if everyone chipped in, the art could be done, but with the coding and everything else, i don't know... Too much time and if a lot of people are involved, i doubt anything would be done right.

Collaborative efforts can always be more scary due to people working differently. Originally when Nergal had only just announced he was gonna take over UxL from Wootch I actually contacted him about if he wanted a second coder on the project but he told me that he wanted to work on his own so he didn't have to quality check other peoples code when he could use that time for coding himself. (if anyone want proof of this I'll go dig up the old email I send him with his reply)
But technically, as long as the communication between the people working on the project is good enough multiple people COULD work fairly well.

So Nergal turned into Wootch no surprise
Neither worked for anyone even their Patreon supporters
So if they want to run away and leave them with an unfinished game why not
As long as they finished the work they promised that month to their patreons its no different than a business going bust or the owner retiring
It might inconvenience people who used the local grocers but people can make life choices based on what's good for them
People think that Patreon devs are special they are on patreon for one reason and one reason only money
Nergal had a blog everything he did was free he opened a Patreon not to further the game but soley to make money
Any (non free) Patreon opens an account for money nothing special here or bad
Being a fanboy/girl of these guys is wierd
Wooch was a dick knew exactly what he was doing.... robbing
Nergal well I will let his Patreon subs decide I always thought he was Wooch pretending Nergal but that was my cynical nature
I support many Patreon sites but do it understanding the criterion I posted above
Life can suck so can a baby on the nipple

Corrected many times for my appalling English

Both left/are leaving behind a disappointed following. And that is something that can certainly affect peoples view if either were to ever return.
And like you said, whereas Wootch just kinda fucked off into oblivion Nergal is finishing this months content (what his Patreons paid for) so overall Nergal > Wootch any day!
Also yes, life can indeed suck pretty hard sometimes...

 

[Ken Moreno]

That's true after all Nergal said,he would release his game so if people wanted to mod it,patch it or finish it,so makes sense for someone crazy to work on it until then hopefully someone talented and crazy enough takes the game,I want to see it done at this point first wootch scams me and then Nergal delivers but leaves sigh such dissapoinment,but I guess that's life.Not all hope is lost but it will be pretty hard for someone to take responsibility and want to finish the game,we also have to watch out that if a person does want to work on it is legit and doesn't use the game to scam people like wootch.

 

[Ricoramirez]

You looked at your moms phone while invisible? That should be all there is to it.
You should have gotten a little text mentioning something like "Oh, it's Mrs.J's address!" and then you just know. Maybe you occidentally skipped it, go to the house and check what is said when you interact with the door (during the afternoon).

Well thanks for your reply, i tried to go to her house and it doesn't work too.

 

[Master Jacob]

So, I've been away for a while - and I apologize if this feels like beating a dead horse for some of you - but I just read Nergal's statement about abandoning Patreon and his two current projects. All I wanted to say on the matter was that both my heart and my penis feel thoroughly betrayed by this turn of events. If it is genuinely as serious as Nergal claims, I can only hope that the situation gets resolved and progress can be finished on A Zombie's Life and Urban Demons. Especially when you realize that AZL was ONE update away from having all the artwork, and UD was TWO versions away from being a complete game. I am so depressed to think of how these two projects will remain unfinished.

I found it amusing that Nergal mentioned SmurfyBlue in the latest post, but there is only so much any mod can do with a game that is missing the needed artwork. If this game is to be finished without Nergal, who didn't do any of the artwork, we will need our own artists to mimic the style of Urban Demons. The only other option would be to have an artist willing to redo all of the content that will be available in version 0.8 as well as creating new art for the unfinished game. There is a flood of emotions running through me, and sadly most of the hope I feel is drowned under feelings of anger. I am not sure what your plans are SmurfyBlue, or how much help I can provide to you, but I do not want this to die.

(EDIT1)- Having read the posts on the previous page, I just want to explain that my logic of "TWO versions away from being a complete game" came from the Trello progress page of planned content. If every release (0.9 and then 1.0) were as promised (and Nergal always delivered) then it was near finished. So obviously Nergal could have drawn out the game by going "0.11" and wasting our time, but I feel that Urban Demons really was close to completion.

(EDIT2)- I also want to explain that the anger I feel isn't directed towards Nergal for abandoning the project. My anger is directed towards the universe for allowing Nergal to abandon both projects. In the case for AZL, I was really looking forward to all three orgy endings. In the case for UD, I was really looking forward to the threesomes & 10H Scenes.

(EDIT3)- Nergal, if you are reading this... I was one of the people who actually wanted the Fred threesome with Mrs. Jennings. I also consider Mrs. Jennings as my favorite character to romance in Urban Demons (her husband can go fuck himself with a rusty rake, because she is ALL MINE NOW) and the Fred Threesome was more of an "optional" scene. I imagine Mrs. Jennings would have asked Peter (you) if you wanted Fred to join in, and the player could just as easily say "HELL NO" to keep Mrs. Jennings all to themselves. I do realize that I contradict myself by saying that I would be willing to share her with my best friend, after having declared her as "ALL MINE NOW" earlier. Truly, my appreciation of the threesome scene depended on which "end" Fred was getting. If Fred only had access to oral stuff, I would be fine with the scene. Whereas if Fred had access to her more intimate parts ... I would reject the offer to include Fred when the question was asked in-game. Boy, this edit sure was a lot longer than I had originally intended. Long story short, if you are still with me, I was fine with the proposed Fred content since it was all optional anyway. Nergal was never forcing people into that threesome. It was only an OPTION. Ergo, it was OPTIONAL. XD

(EDIT4)- @SmurfyBlue: I missed out on your easter-egg, and don't know how to trigger it. I am not asking you to spoil it, but can you please give me some kind of hint so that I know where to search for it? Thanks in advance if you do tell. Also... you made a patch in secret for AZL? You sly Smurf. Any plans on making that public? (fingers and toes crossed)

 

[lynxx]

I feel like i have lost something, i pray to the goddess of lust that Nergal will come back!

 

[SmurfyBlue]

Well thanks for your reply, i tried to go to her house and it doesn't work too.

That's really strange. Maybe I'm forgetting a step. I'll look into it later today but currently I'm still having breakfast so I'm not gonna do it right now!

*snip because too long*

I also don't want UD to die like UxL did, but I'm afraid I don't know how much time I'll have after the 12th of september because that's when my new study starts.
I would LOVE to get a small team together to continue the game in some form, but it's super unsure if that would actually be a good thing.

Yes, you're right, Nergal DOES number his releases in that way. I was just kinda trying to make a point as it felt to me that, although maybe close to completed, it could still use a hell of a lot of polish to clean it all up a bit more.

If you look at the code currently in the game you can find that during the 10 Heart scene during the morning class there is a line of dialogue that goes something like Fred telling you he wants to get a turn, Mrs.J saying she'd rather have you but then asks the player if you'd mind sharing. And currently the only answer possible is "I'm not sharing, you're all mine" kinda dealio while the other option is "share with Fred" but it's unavailable to select.
Also, I would've been fine with a Threesome with Fred. I've mentioned before that I would rather see a girl spit-roasted on two dicks than seeing one girl get fucked while the other is just kinda there which to me is how most 2 Girls 1 Guy threesomes seem to work. But what's done is done.

1: My little easter egg is in the lobby of the hospital. And you can only see it once, if you've seen it once it becomes impossible to see again.

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2: I don't have it any more, and it was just a single fix for a bug that was fixed later as well as some ease-of-life things that made it slightly easier to gather stuff because I didn't want to use the cheat room but I also didn't want to grind my ass off the whole time! So no, my AZL "patch" will never see the light of day because it just isn't really anything any more.

I feel like i have lost something, i pray to the goddess of lust that Nergal will come back!

Let there be HOPE! (And also :eazyHype::eazyHype::eazyHype But yeah, we're all hoping he'll come back at some point, the question is if that is a good thing or not. And that'll depend on how long he's gone for.

 

[MystZER0]

If we can find someone to do the art i think we could try to implement all the extra stuff into the game and make a unofficial release version. But the artist is the hardest part. We will need someone with a similar art style to glass fish but or raise enough money to pay glass fish

 

[SmurfyBlue]

If we can find someone to do the art i think we could try to implement all the extra stuff into the game and make a unofficial release version. But the artist is the hardest part. We will need someone with a similar art style to glass fish but or raise enough money to pay glass fish

True, on one had continuing to use GlassFish would be great, on the other hand, finding someone who's just really good a copying art styles would also be nice.
If push comes to shove, someone will no doubt be good enough to take the scenes that already exist but change the characters in it basically by just switching the heads and editing the colours ;D

But yes, if the ART can get done, the rest is easy-peasy-lemon-squeezy

 

[Ken Moreno]

I think even getting money for the art,would not be so hard to pay glassfish since people will pay for their porn,the hard thing is finding someone people can trust their money with and not get scammed,so yea options are get glass to do the art,get and imitator that can do same style and busts or what smurfy suggested,also would have to get a good writer cause I must admit Nergals writing for scenes was top notch,i still can't get my head around this whole thing,like I get Nergal had problems but,dropping 2 games that are almost finished bothers the hell out of me if he endured a year,he can endure 2 more months,or hell hire someone to code for you and just revise it,I still think Nergal gave up too soon with out putting up a fight,there are multiple ways he could had gone around this,other then just leaving.

 

[MystZER0]

We also could start a kickstarter to get the funds to pay glassfish (worst idea)

 

[SmurfyBlue]

I think even getting money for the art,would not be so hard to pay glassfish since people will pay for their porn,the hard thing is finding someone people can trust their money with and not get scammed,so yea options are get glass to do the art,get and imitator that can do same style and busts or what smurfy suggested,also would have to get a good writer cause I must admit Nergals writing for scenes was top notch,i still can't get my head around this whole thing,like I get Nergal had problems but,dropping 2 games that are almost finished bothers the hell out of me if he endured a year,he can endure 2 more months,or hell hire someone to code for you and just revise it,I still think Nergal gave up too soon with out putting up a fight,there are multiple ways he could had gone around this,other then just leaving.

I've always been called trustworthy, but I don't think I would trust MYSELF not do do something stupid if I would get a shit ton of money :/
And to be fair, we don't know how long he might have been fighting already.

We also could start a kickstarter to get the funds to pay glassfish (worst idea)

Best worst idea so far!

 

[meifeng]

What Nergal should had done a long time ago is hire smurfy to do the coding,glass art and I know one of his friends helped with dialogue and just take a break,he would just have to revise the things,but he literally chose the worst option which is leaving.

 

[MystZER0]

Nergal is his own person, all we can do now is either move on and get on whit our lives, or just keep making post crying and wishing this would never happen. We also have the option to band together as a group of random people, possibly losers(i know i am) and finish the game with unknown outcome of quality. Even possibly better than what nergal would have gave, who knows? All really depends on the art, our writing skills and if smurfy blue does the coding it than we already got a high form of coding so what should we do?

 

[SmurfyBlue]

What Nergal should had done a long time ago is hire smurfy to do the coding,glass art and I know one of his friends helped with dialogue and just take a break,he would just have to revise the things,but he literally chose the worst option which is leaving.

Nergal is his own person, all we can do now is either move on and get on whit our lives, or just keep making post crying and wishing this would never happen. We also have the option to band together as a group of random people, possibly losers(i know i am) and finish the game with unknown outcome of quality. Even possibly better than what nergal would have gave, who knows? All really depends on the art, our writing skills and if smurfy blue does the coding it than we already got a high form of coding so what should we do?

I think you're all VASTLY overestimating my ability to code. I'd say that at most I'm slightly above average but even that would be pushing it XD

Let me just say this. If someone is putting a group/team together and I HAVE THE TIME I would LOVE to be involved. But because of the new study and uncertainty about the work load from school I just don't know if I'll have time or not.
But if anyone is starting a team I got two tips:
1: Wait until after the 0.8 public release. Which'll come in a couple of weeks.
2: Make sure that all the members of the team are "time-zone compatible". By which I mean, that everyone at least at one point during the day can communicate with everyone else in a chatting fashion instead of just sending messages past each other. There needs to be clear communication between all the team members otherwise the quality of the project will go down considerably!