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I'm aware of the performance patch, but even with this, VaM runs worse than it could had it been programmed better. Not unusable, but less well than it should.

For fluids, I'm somewhat surprised someone hasn't managed to work out a way to abuse the cloth sim with a decent shader to get better fluids. Launch a cloth, cloth has some mix of opacity to create depth and clumping, fake "stickyness" and things with cloth params. I don't know enough about the coding side to do it but it feels like there should be a way to get something better than existing options.




It would be nice.
Get Lossless Scaling on Steam, it has been a game changer to me, way more fps using it.
 

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I'm aware of the performance patch, but even with this, VaM runs worse than it could had it been programmed better. Not unusable, but less well than it should.

For fluids, I'm somewhat surprised someone hasn't managed to work out a way to abuse the cloth sim with a decent shader to get better fluids. Launch a cloth, cloth has some mix of opacity to create depth and clumping, fake "stickyness" and things with cloth params. I don't know enough about the coding side to do it but it feels like there should be a way to get something better than existing options.




It would be nice.
so far the only decent fluids i have seen is either from bodylanguage plugin, cumblasters, and realistic erection and foreskin plugin.
 
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I also used to use it in past but i didn't needed it anymore since the performance patch. i get around 50 fps with 2 atoms with it with my low spec that is i5 2400 and rx 580 with only 8 gb of ram lol.
I get why that performance patch would benefit you more. Since for me at least, i tried the patch way before that steam app and did absolutely nothing for me except getting random crashes and no fps improvement at all
 
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Yeah, I was thinking about cum as cloth. Current solutions are static and built-in is ... No comment :ROFLMAO:
 

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Yeah, I was thinking about cum as cloth. Current solutions are static and built-in is ... No comment :ROFLMAO:
There are static cloths that you can make look good with better textures (that properly utilize opacity for fake depth/amount), getting them to sim in a way that works well is the tricky part. And I don't know a way to get cloth to like, "spawn" and launch from a point, which is what you would need to do.
 

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There are static cloths that you can make look good with better textures (that properly utilize opacity for fake depth/amount), getting them to sim in a way that works well is the tricky part. And I don't know a way to get cloth to like, "spawn" and launch from a point, which is what you would need to do.
We about to get a plugin that's gonna get cum shooting out of cocks that look like those t-shirt canon's at NBA games and the FPS is gonna tank and the program going to crash because the shit don't know what to do with crushed up geometry.
 

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I don't understand, do you guys really don't know plugins that uses cloth as cumshot? Body language, cum assist, Autojuice,
Realistic foreskin and errection simulation, cumblaster subscene, and honorable mention non cumclothing but asset instead which is Super cum(comes with its own plugin). Sure they are not on part with actual fluid like from TF but thats not the point. People here are acting like they never heard of these kind of plugins that uses clothing for cum simulation :WaitWhat:
 

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I don't understand, do you guys really don't know plugins that uses cloth as cumshot? Body language, cum assist, Autojuice,
Realistic foreskin and errection simulation, cumblaster subscene, and honorable mention non cumclothing but asset instead which is Super cum(comes with its own plugin). Sure they are not on part with actual fluid like from TF but thats not the point. People here are acting like they never heard of these kind of plugins that uses clothing for cum simulation :WaitWhat:
None of them use it in a way that works quite like it should. Most of them result in some sort of "fake" shot, that then just enables the cloth already on the character in the preset location. The ones that treat it like a cannon per say, like cum assist, don't let you customize the texture as far as I know? Most of them look bad because the textures look bad, not because VAM itself can't fake it's way into half decent cum visuals. I'll have to look at cumblaster to see if you can customize it into something looking better.

The ones that use some sort of particle sim instead of cloth system look like foam or soap. It's almost entirely down to texture usage, given we can't really do much with the VAM shaders. Though the "sim" part maybe can be broken in some way to push that angle a bit better, but that's some programming wizardry.

This isn't to hate on anyone who has made one, it's possible we really are maxed on the limitations of VAM1. But typically things look a lot worse than they really need to in other areas, so I suspect the same is true here.
 

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None of them use it in a way that works quite like it should. Most of them result in some sort of "fake" shot, that then just enables the cloth already on the character in the preset location. The ones that treat it like a cannon per say, like cum assist, don't let you customize the texture as far as I know? Most of them look bad because the textures look bad, not because VAM itself can't fake it's way into half decent cum visuals. I'll have to look at cumblaster to see if you can customize it into something looking better.

The ones that use some sort of particle sim instead of cloth system look like foam or soap. It's almost entirely down to texture usage, given we can't really do much with the VAM shaders. Though the "sim" part maybe can be broken in some way to push that angle a bit better, but that's some programming wizardry.

This isn't to hate on anyone who has made one, it's possible we really are maxed on the limitations of VAM1. But typically things look a lot worse than they really need to in other areas, so I suspect the same is true here.
I just really hope the guy behind the supercum asset continues to improve on it as this is the only one which is neither too costly on performance and looks much decent then those cloth and foam looking ones. Heres how it looks. I do believe this one has alot of potential. You can modify to your own likings like color, thickness, speed, randomness, force etc.
 
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I don't understand, do you guys really don't know plugins that uses cloth as cumshot? Body language, cum assist, Autojuice,
Realistic foreskin and errection simulation, cumblaster subscene, and honorable mention non cumclothing but asset instead which is Super cum(comes with its own plugin). Sure they are not on part with actual fluid like from TF but thats not the point. People here are acting like they never heard of these kind of plugins that uses clothing for cum simulation :WaitWhat:
That's because they don't check out every plugin.
 

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Wasnt there meant to be something released at the end of Jan?
Sure, but what year and decade.. that's the question.

As the late and great JFK once said.... We choose to launch to beta... We choose to launch to beta not because it is easy, but because it is hard!!!" You know, when you get millions a month in Patreon waiting for that Alpha to drop, imagine what happens when it does drop and you spoil your broken promises and software jank.

Do we have another Don Alejandro on our hands? Perhaps another SuperSegaFPGA Traphouse going on?

There's massive amounts of copium and what not going on here saying "it takes time to develop this and that and give the guy time blah blah" It certainly doesn't take the dev time and resources this dudes pocketbook has available to make slight upgrades to a system.

Ya boy is living the dream in a nightmare world somewhere in a country where them 50k+ patreon subs are funding a lavish lifestyle and he gets to post 1-2 times a year about delays. I guarantee the next post will be something about himself or a family member having some sort of an illness and having to step away for a while and the progress being put on hold for 6 months. Everyone will be like "OMG OMG TAKE YOUR TIME HEALTH IS SO IMPORTANT".

eh, it never ends. Are business' people or are they entities designed to pump out the things we pay for and demand what we pay for, or at the least designed to give us what other people do willingly pay for each month, because no way I would support a patreon for that many years with this little progress.

If I wanted to dump that much money into a project with 0 output I'd probably fund myself.