Henriyk

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It's a bit ironic that users ask for help with VAM on a pirate site, and it's not said to disrespect anyone!. When someone asks how do you start?, I think well where do you want to start?. If you really think about it, all that fuss for a porn tool?, no - well that's why it's so much more than that, even though there are plenty of idiots on the hub that say the opposite, which just shows their lack of creative talent. I'm not saying you can`t just download scenes etc. and that's it, but if you want to create then go all in. I've spent 4 years creating models, the development I see is the reward for me. progress.png
 
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Is there any any tutorial that include explicit contents for this game? I'd found some tutorial on Youtube, but most of them didn't show this game capability to make sex-scene
This game/program hard to make scenes in?
Is there a way to make sex in this smoother and not look so jerky like the physics engine wants to make the body explode at any second?
Is there a video guide for this game? I don't understand how to animate and pose them
I apologize if this is a dumb question, but for someone who has never used it, if I were to just download pre-made scenes, would it be fairly plug-and-play like EmoCre or is there still a steep learning curve?
Even though my reply is a bit late — since you’re new — you should use VAMX. After you learn the basic functions, then use the normal VAM.

Does anyone know if there is a mod or plugin that allows me to download paid content for free?
Did you find the answer yet?

What kind of censorship? Please tell me it isn't lgt hd 4k related and it actually makes sense, like deleting baby porn or some shit like that.
That would be the normal or expected rule, but it seems like they ban anything. If they were able to ban this look, come on — that’s ridiculous.
 
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Not sure on specifics on that particular look, but bans are usually a result of hub rules being broken like licensing violations, sharing paid daz or other paid 3d marketplace content, or any content against hub rules like underage stuff, violence/gore, etc. Basically anything that could cause them legal problems which is to be expected.
 

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Not sure on specifics on that particular look, but bans are usually a result of hub rules being broken like licensing violations, sharing paid daz or other paid 3d marketplace content, or any content against hub rules like underage stuff, violence/gore, etc. Basically anything that could cause them legal problems which is to be expected.
If you're not sure on specific then why are you spreading BS? Search on vam discord for "incel weirdos".... That's how virtamate's team are talking about some of virtamate's players in public. That's their level of professionalism......


Look what they did to frief just this week:
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They took down his free assets after many years bc he had a script on some assets he made usinga tutorial on the hub. Tutorial by a VAM moderator (hazmhox)!!

They made a tutorial (virtamate moderators) and nuked creators content that used THEIR tutorial......... Frief then went to discord and tried defending his assets and they deleted his message there too! They banned him on discord and started talking shit about him, said he's attacking the vam community........ There was a thread on discord they deleted where ashauryn called him trash, said his work was not important and shit. And this is just this week. So what are you talking about?
 

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If you're not sure on specific then why are you spreading BS? Search on vam discord for "incel weirdos".... That's how virtamate's team are talking about some of virtamate's players in public. That's their level of professionalism......


Look what they did to frief just this week:
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They took down his free assets after many years bc he had a script on some assets he made usinga tutorial on the hub. Tutorial by a VAM moderator (hazmhox)!!

They made a tutorial (virtamate moderators) and nuked creators content that used THEIR tutorial......... Frief then went to discord and tried defending his assets and they deleted his message there too! They banned him on discord and started talking shit about him, said he's attacking the vam community........ There was a thread on discord they deleted where ashauryn called him trash, said his work was not important and shit. And this is just this week. So what are you talking about?
I wonder if a few enthusiasts (around ten people) wanted to create a VAM hub where all authors could share their work. Would that somehow violate copyright? In my opinion, the moderators of this hub are so terrible that others should create a similar hub.
 

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I have repeatedly encountered that when downloading material from the hub, I am missing some resources, due to the fact that the author is not on the hub and the resource has been deleted. And the thought always arises that it would be good to have a similar hub that would not download directly to VAM itself, but would allow you to simply download files from the browser. At the same time, almost anything could be posted in the hub, and everyone had the right to criticism, advice, and questions.
 
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AshAuryn once responded to me with this: "VaM scenes do not have to have sexual content. This is creative content." Although 99% of their content is sexual, literally 3D porn. And I complained about the girl's model, saying it was difficult to use in sex scenes because the genitals and mouth were awkwardly designed. Yes, they have some materials in the hub that are not related to sexual content in any way, but when it comes to female models, especially if their image is sexualized, then the phrase "optional sexual content" does not make sense.
 
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Hello... Strangely, when I launched VaM today, I lost all my characters...well, my models got square faces again, as if they were missing data. They all took on a bit of the basic model's face...I think some dependencies are missing...has this ever happened to you?
Does this have anything to do with your last posts?
 
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I wonder if a few enthusiasts (around ten people) wanted to create a VAM hub where all authors could share their work. Would that somehow violate copyright? In my opinion, the moderators of this hub are so terrible that others should create a similar hub.
Or at least to have collections here for free vars too as backups like a Frief collection

Hello... Strangely, when I launched VaM today, I lost all my characters...well, my models got square faces again, as if they were missing data. They all took on a bit of the basic model's face...I think some dependencies are missing...has this ever happened to you?
Does this have anything to do with your last posts?
If the texture looks bad its maybe the cache. There's a clear cache button in settings, maybe that helps
 
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wanted to create a VAM hub where all authors could share their work
I had a related question before. I think it's very difficult to manage your own hub, because you have to deal with copyrighted material, storage space, bandwidth, uptime, malicious vars, cost etc. Although I think at some point the VAM hub's moderation will get so bad that someone might do it.
 

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If you're not sure on specific then why are you spreading BS? Search on vam discord for "incel weirdos".... That's how virtamate's team are talking about some of virtamate's players in public. That's their level of professionalism......


Look what they did to frief just this week:
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They took down his free assets after many years bc he had a script on some assets he made usinga tutorial on the hub. Tutorial by a VAM moderator (hazmhox)!!

They made a tutorial (virtamate moderators) and nuked creators content that used THEIR tutorial......... Frief then went to discord and tried defending his assets and they deleted his message there too! They banned him on discord and started talking shit about him, said he's attacking the vam community........ There was a thread on discord they deleted where ashauryn called him trash, said his work was not important and shit. And this is just this week. So what are you talking about?
What BS am I spreading? That they ban people for breaking their rules? how is that BS when that is exactly what happens? We might not all agree with their rules but it is their right to do what they want on their discord and website.

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The discussion was about how polite the community typically is. I don't see any issues with the context in which "incel weirdos" was used, but if you were bothered by it the issue might be with you.

The moderation is far from perfect and Ash often goes overboard but I don't think we are getting the full story from that post. The original tutorial was CC BY SA so while it looks like a pretty simple license violation which wouldn't have taken much on his part to remedy, 10 days ago (16th) it was updated by "vamstaff" to be only CC BY so Frief's stuff would no longer be in violation. That said if he went on discord and was butting heads with Ash that wasn't going to end well for him. That is just common sense anywhere, start butting heads with mods around here and see if it ends well.

With the discord messages being gone and hub thread supposedly gone as well I'm not sure what happened in these particular interactions but I've seen enough of them over the past 6 years on discord to know that while it is very possible Ash overreacted, it is unlikely Frief was being polite about things either. What is still there from frief and what looks like someone immediately mentioning mods makes me thing it wasn't a good start even without being able to see the message though.

"But what about all that other stuff in violation"
Mods don't actively moderate everything. There is a ton of stuff in violation of rules on hub that has just flown by under the radar for years because unless it is reported for being in violation the mods won't be aware of it.

It wasn't until recent years that they even implemented tools to help control some of the chaos that was there before. So while there are more hoops to go through for the paywallers and weekly paid resource spam limits, var scanning, stricter enforcement of licensing, for many years none of that was in place and there are probably thousands of resources in violation of rules or licensing.

If something ends up being reported and mods reach out to you in regards to updating your license or whatever fix your particular asset needs to be brought into compliance and you refuse to do it, then you start a public discussion about it that then spills over to discord while likely refusing to update your licenses I'm not sure I would have expected any other outcome.

With the exception of daz content I've seen mods be pretty accommodating and giving people several chances. Hell, they put up with that flaming douche Reign for years before they finally banned him for good.
 

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Ash often goes overboard....... That said if he went on discord and was butting heads with Ash that wasn't going to end well for him. ... while it is very possible Ash overreacted,

"ash ash ash", you on nicknames :LUL: you don't even hide it



What is still there from frief and what looks like someone immediately mentioning mods makes me thing it wasn't a good start even without being able to see the message though.
here you go, this is what he wrote on discord and they deleted and banned him:



I want to clarify my position regarding the ongoing accusations from the VaMHub moderation team that I “copied copyrighted code” from the CUA Editor Tutorial.
These claims are factually incorrect, technically misleading, and based on a misinterpretation of VaM’s own scripting framework.

What was actually used


The portions of code referenced by the moderators are standard structural elements required for any VaM plugin to function —
such as plugin headers, JSONStorable definitions, and “About” sections that display plugin information in the UI.
These are not creative or original works, but part of VaM’s MVRScript framework —
a public scripting structure that every creator must use to make their plugins load properly in the engine.
Even the so-called “evidence” shown by moderation consists of these same framework elements, used identically in countless other VaM plugins.

Code comments, structure, and templates are not copyrightable


The examples cited by moderation include lines such as:

#region PluginInfo
public string pluginAuthor = "Frief";
public string pluginName = "BDSM-Saddle";
...
#endregion


Such template code — including identical variable names, comment headers, and plugin metadata — is functionally required.
It does not qualify as protected intellectual property under either U.S. or EU copyright law.
It represents boilerplate, not creative authorship.
Code comments, variable naming conventions, and section formatting serve technical documentation purposes — not artistic expression — and therefore cannot be copyrighted.
Independent implementation

All of my functional logic and interaction systems were written independently from scratch.
While I learned general scripting principles from public tutorials (as most creators do),
I did not copy or import code directly from those sources.
Even the moderators’ own screenshots show that the only overlap lies in generic, framework-level syntax used by everyone.
The folder name “VamDeluxe,” cited in their post, was simply a leftover naming error — not reused code, not a license claim, and not evidence of infringement.

Misrepresentation and moderation conduct

The moderation team presented these technical similarities as “proof of copyright violation,”
while simultaneously closing public threads and preventing any opportunity for clarification.
This created a one-sided narrative that falsely implied guilt and undermined the ability to respond with technical evidence.
Publicly framing boilerplate structure and folder naming as “copied code” is both misleading and unprofessional.

My position and formal request

Because of the repeated misrepresentation and inconsistent enforcement,
I have issued a formal GDPR and copyright takedown request
requiring VaMHub (MeshVR, LLC, and affiliated staff)
to remove all of my content and associated data within 14 days.
I do not consent to further hosting, mirroring, or redistribution of my works by VaMHub or its operators.
To clarify:
✅ I acknowledge learning from public tutorials.
❌ I did not copy, reuse, or redistribute any copyrighted or proprietary code.
✅ My implementations follow VaM’s public scripting standards — not private or protected work.
❌ The “VamDeluxe” folder was an unintentional leftover, not reused code.

Final note

Accusing creators of copyright infringement over framework structure, variable names, or code comments is an overreach that harms, not protects, the community.
It discourages contribution, breeds mistrust, and undermines the collaborative spirit that made VaM successful in the first place.

— Frief



Hell, they put up with that flaming douche Reign for years before they finally banned him for good.
so you want modders banned for eternity and nuked for being 'douche'

meanwhile your Ash did PAIN morphs advertised with toddlers

its interesting how deep some of you go to defend them........
 

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"ash ash ash", you on nicknames :LUL: you don't even hide it
I never remember the correct spelling for full Ash's name, don't want to look it up, and find it annoying to fully spell out. :WeSmart:

here you go, this is what he wrote on discord and they deleted and banned him:
That isn't a good look for them, and my guess with "vamstaff" (likely ash) modifying the license on the guide they were in process of backtracking things. Given the egos involved I'm not sure if that is going to make a difference now though as from the note it looks like Frief had gone full nuclear himself requesting his stuff be removed (though it is still available as dependencies for now). I'm curious who would report something as silly as that though, seems completely inconsequential and irrelevant based on Friefs message. :FacePalm:

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so you want modders banned for eternity and nuked for being 'douche'
I feel like I'm talking to drax the destroyer, nothing goes above your head huh? Is english not your first language? He was banned several times for a variety of broken rules with the final one being making physical threats to meshed and his staff (likely in one of his drunken fits). He was never banned for being a douche, that's just my description of him. :KEK:

meanwhile your Ash did PAIN morphs advertised with toddlers

its interesting how deep some of you go to defend them........
Not my ash, as I've said already, tends to overreact, not very level headed, often seems to be on a power trip, not good qualities for a mod, and this seems to be another example of that. I'm guessing they put up with it because there is no one else to do all the hub coding and maintenance?

While that advertisement is definitely in poor taste, other than as a red herring, it isn't relevant to this conversation.

Did you get banned for breaking their rules? Can you show me on the doll where the bad man touched you?
 
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breaking "rules" in a vam porn-hub parossistical fappers' forum... (hold on...did I say "fappers"?) yes it can happen :eek:
 

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breaking "rules" in a vam porn-hub parossistical fappers' forum... (hold on...did I say "fappers"?) yes it can happen :eek:
I know it can be hard to believe but there are rules in most places, whether that be out in the world or online across different platforms including this one. The fact that the hub has it's own set of rules should hardly be a novel idea.

I'm also back on the frief being handling things poorly train. In the end he wrote them the message asking that his stuff be removed because he didn't want to update his licenses or give credit so they did what he asked them to do. If you literally issue a take down notice for your own content on the hub and the mods proceed to nuke your stuff as requested how do you turn around and complain about it being gone? :FacePalm: :FacePalm:

He isn't the first to voluntarily unpublish content and regardless of reasoning it isn't any less annoying for the rest of us.
 
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He isn't the first to voluntarily unpublish content and regardless of reasoning it isn't any less annoying for the rest of us.
he did that AFTER they hid his addons on the hub and blocked him from commenting. Of course some modders will be 'fuck this shit, im out' as response, what you expect.... I ve seen them a few months ago threaten even vecterror. They took his looks down and wrote in discord he's on 'final warning'.... Next time vecterror messes up a var or talks back, he's gone. Isn't that a stupid way to handle modders? Why would vecterror ever even share free looks now? It's a risk. Those that get paid have reasons to take it up the butt. But to do that to free modders?

But my problem is not with them, it's like I said with you. Frief could've came here to share mods. And others before him. But this guys can't come even here on f95 because they find meshedvr dick riders like you attacking them and defending a scam company. You admitted you don't know what happened. You admitted moderators there are crazy and power tripping. But you attack modders still. They made frief quit because of 'stolen' comments in a hazmhox (vam moderator) tutorial. That is a stupid reason to lose free modders over and you know it. They started that and mishandled it and made a modder quit. You blaming frief for being upset is wrong. You'd be upset too. Maybe you'd react differently but you'd be upset

I hope you get off their dick and make an effort to understand my point and stop scaring modders away
 

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I'm also back on the frief being handling things poorly train.
look at this shit, this is what they said to vecterror:

" Since we're airing this in the open, vecterror is banned until we get a response for the several NC dependencies he used in several of his looks without creators permission over a long period of time. This is his final warning and if we dont get a response it may turn into a permanent ban. "


He messed up licenses, tried defending himself in public, OK fine. Tell me: is that a normal way to treat modders that did work for you for 5 years? To give ultimatums...... Some modders take it up the butt, some go boss like reignmocap. But why are they giving ultimatums and threats to modders in the first place?

I think it's wrong to attack creators that leave them. They have good reasons to leave! Creators should be welcomed here and allowed to mod without you or others talking shit about them, blaming them, defending who exactly.... They could come and post here their assets but you're talking shit about them. I suggest you reflect on that
 

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It's just sad that one after another good creator disappears from the hub. The irony is that several of these so-called admins themselves were or are creators, although Ash.... the female she devil just poses and makes a terribly ugly intro to the hub and makes the whole thing ugly, I'm throwing up :sick:
 

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Of course a hub should have rules. But my opinion is that as an administrator of a hub or similar you are there to help the users first and foremost, because if that is not the approach where is the democratic process?. So it may be that sometimes they have to play "policeman" and just explain how things are done. The problem is that some of these administrators overinterpret their powers and seem as if they have a need to really show the world that here they are, and they rule!. The best admins are anonymous like a good referee in a match. Creators for VAM spend a lot of hours and time creating, often a rather lonely existence, I speak from my own experience. So for you 10 likes or whatever and an admin who debugs everything you have done, and nothing but hassle and grumbling and rules. It has actually not been like this for a number of years when the hub was overflowed with creativity, today with all due respect a lot (not all) of the content is medicore. VAM and the hub are NOTHING without the creators!. But that's not the approach. I suggest annual price sharing etc. but was brushed off and misinterpreted as me criticizing the users/admin. And as soon as you are the least bit critical they close the thread!. But you can find many others with similar experiences, it's not a coincidence. There is no respect for creators who lose the desire to contribute, at least for free. I'm done with those ...... arrogant little .... And I haven't even been banned, but I can guarantee if I logged in (last 3 months ago) , my statement would ensure that.:devilish:
 
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